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Rick 20-05-2005 03:54 AM

Sick Fish
 
My pond is about 1200gal or should I say two ponds that are connected. Only
the bottom pond has fish, six gold fish and three Koi and about 15 little
minnows that my kids got out of the local creek. I recently noticed one of
my gold fish with some of the skin is hanging a way. I think it is some
kind of fungus. Do you or anybody else out there know how to make a 3% salt
salutation. I want to make a small bowl with a 3% salt salutation and just
put the sick fish in it. Dose anybody know how to do this.

As I started to look at all the other fish I noticed another gold fish with
little black spots on its side. Looks like someone took a ballpoint pen and
put dots on it. Any idea or help would be welcome. Rick.



Reel McKoi 20-05-2005 04:12 AM


"Rick" wrote in message
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My pond is about 1200gal or should I say two ponds that are connected.

Only
the bottom pond has fish, six gold fish and three Koi and about 15 little
minnows that my kids got out of the local creek.


$$ A local creek? I hope you quarantined them before exposing your fish to
these newcomers. Wild fish carry parasites as well as pet shop fish.

I recently noticed one of
my gold fish with some of the skin is hanging a way. I think it is some
kind of fungus. Do you or anybody else out there know how to make a 3%

salt
salutation. I want to make a small bowl with a 3% salt salutation and just
put the sick fish in it. Dose anybody know how to do this.


$$ Please check out www.koivet.com. There are many websites with
information on pond fish disease. Perhaps someone else here can help you
with the salt issue.

As I started to look at all the other fish I noticed another gold fish

with
little black spots on its side. Looks like someone took a ballpoint pen

and
put dots on it. Any idea or help would be welcome. Rick.


$$ It sounds like a parasite problem (fish lice?). First you need to
identify the parasite - then find out what will remove them! Quarantine all
new fish before adding them to your pond.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o
"The best proof of intelligent life in space is that it hasn't come here."
- Sir Arthur C. Clarke


~ jan JJsPond.us 20-05-2005 06:46 AM

Before you do anything you need to find out what the problem is. You do
this by buying water testing tests. Ammonia, Nitrite, pH, KH, and water
temp. See Sick Fish Form below.

On Fri, 20 May 2005 02:54:47 GMT, "Rick" wrote:


My pond is about 1200gal or should I say two ponds that are connected. Only
the bottom pond has fish, six gold fish and three Koi and about 15 little
minnows that my kids got out of the local creek. I recently noticed one of
my gold fish with some of the skin is hanging a way. I think it is some
kind of fungus. Do you or anybody else out there know how to make a 3% salt
salutation. I want to make a small bowl with a 3% salt salutation and just
put the sick fish in it. Dose anybody know how to do this.

As I started to look at all the other fish I noticed another gold fish with
little black spots on its side. Looks like someone took a ballpoint pen and
put dots on it. Any idea or help would be welcome. Rick.


Sick Fish or Sick Pond Form

Please describe your problem, including fish characteristics, like;
whirling, flashing, gasping at surface, wounds, etc.:

Pond Size in Gallons? (litres*.26=US Gallons):

Water Source (Well, Irrigation, City?)
If City how is water treated?: =

Time in Operation?
(How old is the pond/water?):

Liner type? (EPDM,PVC,RUBBER,Cement/Concrete etc):

Fish Population?
Type? Size? QTY, Time in Pond:

Food? Type and Frequency of feedings.:

Pump Type, IN/OUT of pond, GPH etc
(Describe your filtration system as well as possible):

Prefilter media type? Last cleaned?:

Filter is BIO or Mechanical? Last cleaned? How?:

Carbon added? How much? When last changed?:

Aeration? Waterfalls? Bubblers?
Venturies?:

Water Temp?

PH?:

Ammonia (ppm or mg/l):

Nitrite (ppm or mg/l):

Nitrate (ppm or mg/l):

Water Color, cloudiness, odor?:

Water changes? (% of pond volume and how often):

Additives used (water conditioners etc):

Tests done by self or another?:

Weather (what's it been like lately?):

Medications used?:

What Zone or Country of residence?:

~ jan



See my ponds and filter design:
www.jjspond.us

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
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RichToyBox 20-05-2005 05:38 PM

One, do not use 3% salt. For parasites, a 0.3% is more appropriate, and
that is equivalent to about 0.8 pounds of salt per 100 gallons.

Two, the fish with what looks like a loose flap of skin, may have a loose
flap of skin. The fish will damage themselves, particularly during
spawning.

Three, as everyone else has recommended, get test kits and run the tests.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html

"Rick" wrote in message
ink.net...
My pond is about 1200gal or should I say two ponds that are connected.
Only
the bottom pond has fish, six gold fish and three Koi and about 15 little
minnows that my kids got out of the local creek. I recently noticed one of
my gold fish with some of the skin is hanging a way. I think it is some
kind of fungus. Do you or anybody else out there know how to make a 3%
salt
salutation. I want to make a small bowl with a 3% salt salutation and just
put the sick fish in it. Dose anybody know how to do this.

As I started to look at all the other fish I noticed another gold fish
with
little black spots on its side. Looks like someone took a ballpoint pen
and
put dots on it. Any idea or help would be welcome. Rick.





RichToyBox 20-05-2005 05:47 PM

Sorry, 0.8 pounds per hundred gallons is only 0.1%.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
...
One, do not use 3% salt. For parasites, a 0.3% is more appropriate, and
that is equivalent to about 0.8 pounds of salt per 100 gallons.

Two, the fish with what looks like a loose flap of skin, may have a loose
flap of skin. The fish will damage themselves, particularly during
spawning.

Three, as everyone else has recommended, get test kits and run the tests.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html

"Rick" wrote in message
ink.net...
My pond is about 1200gal or should I say two ponds that are connected.
Only
the bottom pond has fish, six gold fish and three Koi and about 15 little
minnows that my kids got out of the local creek. I recently noticed one
of
my gold fish with some of the skin is hanging a way. I think it is some
kind of fungus. Do you or anybody else out there know how to make a 3%
salt
salutation. I want to make a small bowl with a 3% salt salutation and
just
put the sick fish in it. Dose anybody know how to do this.

As I started to look at all the other fish I noticed another gold fish
with
little black spots on its side. Looks like someone took a ballpoint pen
and
put dots on it. Any idea or help would be welcome. Rick.







Reel Mckoi 21-05-2005 04:44 PM

Rick wrote:
My pond is about 1200gal or should I say two ponds that are connected. Only
the bottom pond has fish, six gold fish and three Koi and about 15 little
minnows that my kids got out of the local creek. I recently noticed one of
my gold fish with some of the skin is hanging a way. I think it is some
kind of fungus.


Are you NUTS!!!!!

To kill Fungus you have to get the one eye, two foot, purple fungus eater.

Rick 22-05-2005 07:44 AM


"Reel McKoi" wrote in message
...

"Rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

$$ A local creek? I hope you quarantined them before exposing your fish

to
these newcomers. Wild fish carry parasites as well as pet shop fish.

My pond is about 1200gal or should I say two ponds that are connected.
Only the bottom pond has fish, six gold fish and three Koi and about 15

little
minnows that my kids got out of the local creek.


$$ It sounds like a parasite problem (fish lice?). First you need to
identify the parasite - then find out what will remove them! Quarantine

all
new fish before adding them to your pond.



They are not new had then two years now.

--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." :-)
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o
"The best proof of intelligent life in space is that it hasn't come here."
- Sir Arthur C. Clarke





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