We've got the cement berm done. The cement pad for the settling tank is
also done. The shelves have been improved. All we need do now is replace
the carpets, quilts and then the rubber liner. The fence and net is last of
course. Meanwhile the koi are doing great in the pool behind the house and
have spawned twice. We will probably lose these fry because of the amount
of water involved, their minute size and the fact it will have to be pumped
down to catch the parents. We'll save what we can.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Well, send me your address and I'll send you 50 cents so you can call
someone who cares..........



On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:41:54 -0500, "Reel Mckoi"
wrote:

===We've got the cement berm done. The cement pad for the settling tank is
===also done. The shelves have been improved. All we need do now is replace
===the carpets, quilts and then the rubber liner. The fence and net is last of
===course. Meanwhile the koi are doing great in the pool behind the house and
===have spawned twice. We will probably lose these fry because of the amount
===of water involved, their minute size and the fact it will have to be pumped
===down to catch the parents. We'll save what we can.


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~ }(((((o

Well, send me your address and I'll send you 50 cents so you can call
someone who cares..........

You, whoever you are, aren't really welcome in rec.ponds.

Just for the record.

C//

"Courageous" wrote in message
...

Well, send me your address and I'll send you 50 cents so you can call
someone who cares..........

You, whoever you are, aren't really welcome in rec.ponds.

Just for the record.

C//
==============================
No he isn't welcome here but most of the regulars are afraid of him (Roy).
You can see how irrational and vicious he gets. He's doing what he claims
he can't handle others doing - NYM SHIFTING. Lets see if the same
complainers start to complain about his NYM-SHIFTING. You can be sure they
wont, because they fear retribution. Just killfile all his and the other
troll's "gmail" and "mailinator" NYMs. You'll see a lot less posts, but it
will make the NG a lot more pleasant place to visit. :-)

I guess they got together now to destroy this NG - if the people allow it to
happen.

NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.121.235.91
X-Complaints-To:
X-Trace: newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net
1120946101 165.121.235.91 (Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:55:01 PDT)
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

Dream on Carol dream on...........I can nym shift if I want to, and
you are quirte apt at it as well, so take a hike and make sure you
carry courageous along with you.............maybe take a long walk up
to visit Derek.......or Maxxi boy.

On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:00:33 -0500, "Reel Mckoi"
wrote:

===
==="Courageous" wrote in message
===news:r7v0d1t63lv7psmm38a90iqvj00mn3bpms@4ax. com...
===
=== Well, send me your address and I'll send you 50 cents so you can call
=== someone who cares..........
===
=== You, whoever you are, aren't really welcome in rec.ponds.
===
=== Just for the record.
===
=== C//
=================================
===No he isn't welcome here but most of the regulars are afraid of him (Roy).
===You can see how irrational and vicious he gets. He's doing what he claims
===he can't handle others doing - NYM SHIFTING. Lets see if the same
===complainers start to complain about his NYM-SHIFTING. You can be sure they
===wont, because they fear retribution. Just killfile all his and the other
===troll's "gmail" and "mailinator" NYMs. You'll see a lot less posts, but it
===will make the NG a lot more pleasant place to visit. :-)
===
===I guess they got together now to destroy this NG - if the people allow it to
===happen.
===
===NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.121.235.91
===X-Complaints-To:
===X-Trace: newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net
===1120946101 165.121.235.91 (Sat, 09 Jul 2005 14:55:01 PDT)


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~ }(((((o

On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:42:42 -0700, Courageous
wrote:

===
===Well, send me your address and I'll send you 50 cents so you can call
===someone who cares..........
===
===You, whoever you are, aren't really welcome in rec.ponds.
===
===Just for the record.
===
===C//

And for the record, send me your address and I'll send you a $1.00 and
you too can call some one who ares, and also call Carol and cry the
blues to her....

==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~ }(((((o

Here it is,the rape,in your own words.

The fact that you are using an anonymous remailer itself reveals
PER SE your lack of faith in your ability to back up these words.

Not factual, perhaps?

Be advised that describing a person as a rapist is libelous per
se in most states in the U.S. In libel per se, the person who made
the remark must prove the remark true, or lose by default. Ignorance,
or belief in the truth of the statement, is not a defense. Damages
are generally high.

Lose your house type of stuff, in case you're wondering what "high"
means.

C//

"Courageous" wrote in message
...

Here it is,the rape,in your own words.

The fact that you are using an anonymous remailer itself reveals
PER SE your lack of faith in your ability to back up these words.

Not factual, perhaps?

Be advised that describing a person as a rapist is libelous per
se in most states in the U.S. In libel per se, the person who made
the remark must prove the remark true, or lose by default. Ignorance,
or belief in the truth of the statement, is not a defense. Damages
are generally high.

Lose your house type of stuff, in case you're wondering what "high"
means.

If you click the message ID, the post actually indicts Carol as the
instigator and post-editor of this episode of Usenet trash. It's repugnant
that she would bombard this newsgroup with such self-immolating garbage.

"Courageous" wrote in message
...

Here it is,the rape,in your own words.

The fact that you are using an anonymous remailer itself reveals
PER SE your lack of faith in your ability to back up these words.

** She (he?) supplied the message from Google. Check it youself.

Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, alt.talk.creationism,
alt.atheism, alt.feminism, talk.abortion
From: "MiKrobs" - Find messages by this author
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:08:58 -0500
Local: Sat,Apr 24 2004 8:08 pm
Subject: Was it God's Fault that JABRIOL aka Antonio J
(Manuel) Santana raped and sodomized his own daughter?

JaBrIoL"
a sociopathic dedophile, wrote in message
om...

everyone know that me grandchild is a result of raping my
crack-whore dauter..
me guess Im are going to blem God for that one too.
------------------------------*------------------------------*--
Why did you rape her? You claimed your wife was a "fat
menopausal whore"
but that is no excuse to rape your 13 year old daughter. Then
you threw her
and the baby out calling her a "crack whore." You're obsessed
with whores.

MiKrobs
"Men (like Jabriol) never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~*

Not factual, perhaps?

** Looks like he admitted it. Did you read it?

Be advised that describing a person as a rapist is libelous per
se in most states in the U.S. In libel per se, the person who made
the remark must prove the remark true,

** He wrote it. How can anyone know what actually happened if they weren't
there?

or lose by default. Ignorance,
or belief in the truth of the statement, is not a defense. Damages
are generally high.

** I wonder how much I can get for his claims my son raped a black woman,
that my husband raped my son and grandson. How much do you think that's
worth? You did see those posts didn't you? He even admitted he wrote them.
Am I a rich woman or what???? :-)

Lose your house type of stuff, in case you're wondering what "high"
means.

** He lives in a low-rent tenement apartment in NJ.

C//

--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

"Courageous" wrote in message
...

Here it is,the rape,in your own words.

The fact that you are using an anonymous remailer itself reveals
PER SE your lack of faith in your ability to back up these words.

Not factual, perhaps?

Be advised that describing a person as a rapist is libelous per
se in most states in the U.S. In libel per se, the person who made
the remark must prove the remark true, or lose by default. Ignorance,
or belief in the truth of the statement, is not a defense. Damages
are generally high.

Lose your house type of stuff, in case you're wondering what "high"
means.
==========================
Rape and Jabriol aside. I got so sick of it, I killfiled them all. The
Google post shows he admitted it. If he didn't nuke them there are probably
even more regarding this daughter on Google. He mentioned her, and his
family problems several times.

They've all made up their minds to kill this NG. It's becoming more
apparent with each passing day. To even try and discuss anything with any
of them is a waste of time. Jabriol said this was all part of his
"strategy" some weeks ago as you may recall. This is a strategy to force
me off Usenet for his own personal ego and satisfaction, and to hell with
all the other members of this NG. His methods worked on several other woman
and it's making him "crazy" that it will not work with me. In his culture
woman are submissive and obey men or else!

Why these other two got involved is unknown to me since I never met them
before I returned here last spring. I don't know them from a
hole-in-the-wall. It's becoming a game with them as you can see. One
admitted he liked all the "excitement." They have their own agendas. I use
2 easily killfiled NYMS here and yet they refuse to killfile me. They
prefer to torture themselves by reading every message I post. They've
nothing better to do with their time.

They complained and whined to my last ISP that they couldn't killfile me
because I changed my nym when I changed ISPs and NSs. As you can see they
lied. They have no excuse not to killfile me.

Well I'm staying here and will continue to killfile people who are arrogant,
rude, constantly off-topic and can't conduct themselves like adults.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

The fact that you are using an anonymous remailer itself reveals
PER SE your lack of faith in your ability to back up these words.

** She (he?) supplied the message from Google. Check it youself.

Not relevant. A repost from google is a discrete publication event.

As an aside, the stakeholder owning the email address in question
may request Google to remove the posting from their archive, and they
will do so.

Be advised that describing a person as a rapist is libelous per
se in most states in the U.S. In libel per se, the person who made
the remark must prove the remark true,

** He wrote it.

Not established as fact. Your belief that is fact does not obsolve
you of responsibility for publishing it.

Finally, and most annoyingly:

WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING POSTING THIS CRAP ON REC.PONDS?!?!?!

C//

"Courageous" wrote in message
...

WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING POSTING THIS CRAP ON REC.PONDS?!?!?!
=====================
You responded to an anonymous off-topic message. Why bother? Someone may
reply to any of your messages since this is an open forum.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 06:19:38 -0700, Courageous
wrote:

snip
===
===Finally, and most annoyingly:
===
===WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING POSTING THIS CRAP ON REC.PONDS?!?!?!
===
===C//

my my my, what vulgarity! even Jabriol does not use such nasty
words...........then again I guess its the company YOU keep that leads
to your vulgarity..........Remember, there are Ladies present that do
not enjoy seeing those kinds of words, and no......... Carol aka Reel
McKoi does not fit the discription of "Lady"


==============================================
Put some color in your cheeks...garden naked!
"The original frugal ponder"
~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~ }(((((o

What are you doing with the water you are taking our of the pond to lower
the depth? Could you not just take a trash can with netting in it, pump the
water into it an pull out the fry when they accumulate enough to matter
(have 2 cans that you switch the hose to on emptying)? Of course I'm always
hoping the predators get my fry since my pond is small enough that it can
only afford a small population.
DK
P.S. Could you please not respond to the cross posting trolls. It only
encourages them and I get tired of blocking the new ones that keep showing
up when encouraged.


"Reel Mckoi" wrote in message
...
We've got the cement berm done. The cement pad for the settling tank is
also done. The shelves have been improved. All we need do now is replace
the carpets, quilts and then the rubber liner. The fence and net is last
of
course. Meanwhile the koi are doing great in the pool behind the house
and
have spawned twice. We will probably lose these fry because of the amount
of water involved, their minute size and the fact it will have to be
pumped
down to catch the parents. We'll save what we can.
--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

"DKat" wrote in message
...
What are you doing with the water you are taking our of the pond to lower
the depth?

$$ The 2000 gallon pond was completely drained and the liner temporarily
removed. All the fry in that pond were at least 1" long and easily removed
to a fry pool to themselves. :-) The water was pumped out onto the lawn.

Could you not just take a trash can with netting in it, pump the
water into it an pull out the fry when they accumulate enough to matter

$$ The tiny fry born in the holding pool would never survive the trip
through the pump's impeller. What may work though is we're going to use the
water for irrigation in a flower and veggie bed. It'll gravity feed through
a garden hose to a 40 gallon holding tank by the driveway. Any fry that end
up in that tank will be easily seen, netted and saved! The 75' trip through
the hose shouldn't kill them.

(have 2 cans that you switch the hose to on emptying)? Of course I'm
always
hoping the predators get my fry since my pond is small enough that it can
only afford a small population.

$$ I'm sure many things prey on our fry but the sheer numbers still leave
more than we can ever hope to raise. What we find upsetting is when one of
our adult fish go missing. This pic was taken before the ponds were netted.
Most were killed by predators. Few of these are still with us. The most
flashy, most colorful and the most expensive always vanished first.

http://images.snapfish.com/344466832...A26%3B55ot1lsi

DK
P.S. Could you please not respond to the cross posting trolls. It only
encourages them and I get tired of blocking the new ones that keep showing
up when encouraged.

--
McKoi.... the frugal ponder...
EVERYONE: "Please check people's headers for forgeries
before flushing." NAMES ARE BEING FORGED.
My Pond Page http://tinyurl.com/cuq5b
~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o