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Morden roses
Hello,
I'm new to this group and also new to rose bushes. This past summer, we planted 4 Morden super winter hardy rose bushes and they did phenomenally well. Two of them easily tripled in size from July to October and the other two easily doubled in the same time period. And boy, did they all bloom! It was a fabulous show. It was finally the cold, snow and heavy frost that stopped them in late October. I never dreamed roses would bloom that late into the autumn. The last of the buds are now frozen in place for the winter. We mulched the roots with cedar bark mulch for the winter but otherwise, did nothing else to winterize them. I've never had rose bushes before so really had no idea, aside from the mulch, what to do. I've got my fingers crossed that they handle our severe winters alright. What I'm wondering is what to do in the spring. Do I prune them? Do I leave them alone to do their own thing? Have we made a mistake by not covering them? (They are now buried in snow anyway... nature's own insulation). Here's one of my flowers from the summer. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...06070862IPYFin Thanks for any advice. -- Tammie - Northern Ontario, Canada Near Lake Superior's North Shores http://community.webshots.com/user/thache 49.1304398 -85.8325272 |
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"bthache" wrote in message
news:AAhnf.93059$ki.59089@pd7tw2no... Hello, Hi Tammie and welcome! I "know" you from the rec.birds group. I mostly lurk there. I'm new to this group and also new to rose bushes. This past summer, we planted 4 Morden super winter hardy rose bushes and they did phenomenally well. Two of them easily tripled in size from July to October and the other two easily doubled in the same time period. And boy, did they all bloom! That's great. Sounds like you're having a good first experience with roses. It was a fabulous show. It was finally the cold, snow and heavy frost that stopped them in late October. I never dreamed roses would bloom that late into the autumn. The last of the buds are now frozen in place for the winter. My roses actually do better in the autumn. I think most roses prefer more moderate temperatures than they get around here. We mulched the roots with cedar bark mulch for the winter but otherwise, did nothing else to winterize them. I've never had rose bushes before so really had no idea, aside from the mulch, what to do. I've got my fingers crossed that they handle our severe winters alright. Between the mulch, snow, and breeding, your roses will probably be ok. You might want to read up on winterizing, though. I can point you to some articles: www.ars.org It's the American Rose Society web site. If you read down the page you'll see a link to Articles. That's the place to go. You don't have to be a member of the ARS to read the articles. I notice there is a Canadian Rose Society: http://www.canadianrosesociety.org/ That might be more useful for you. Since you have four of the same roses, if you decide to try additional winterizing techniques, you might attempt an experiment: leave two of the roses as you have them now, and do something else with the other two roses. See which method works best. Keep notes. What I'm wondering is what to do in the spring. Do I prune them? Do I leave them alone to do their own thing? Have we made a mistake by not covering them? (They are now buried in snow anyway... nature's own insulation). As you note, snow is an excellent insulator. Pruning is usually done in the spring. Again, check the web articles for advice. I'm not familiar with the Mordan roses so you might check online to see if there are any special pruning needs for that type of rose. There are some good beginning books. If you can find Ortho's All About Roses, it might be helpful to you. It's a slim book that can be found in most bookstores and places like Home Depot and Lowes. I would guess that comparable stores in Canada might also carry them. If you go to Amazon.com you can find a picture and a description of the book. Here's one of my flowers from the summer. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...06070862IPYFin Very nice! It looks like a pink with a hint of lavender or maybe a pale lavender. Lavender is one of my favorite rose colors. Thanks for any advice. -- Tammie - Northern Ontario, Canada Near Lake Superior's North Shores http://community.webshots.com/user/thache 49.1304398 -85.8325272 rec.gardens.roses isn't currently a very active newsgroup but a few hardcore members hang around. As usual, take all advice (including mine!) with a grain of salt, and check with experts (online or books or local nurseries/ botanical gardens) whenever possible. Gail near San Antonio TX USA Zone 8 |
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Hi Gail, I 'know' you too..... just couldn't remember where from.
Thanks so much for the information. The Canadian Rose Society is exactly what I was looking for and I've saved the link. I've already found my particular roses in there so that's a huge help. The Morden roses are stunning and after last summer's display, I dearly want to get more. I'm hoping for whites, creams and yellows .... and maybe I'll look for some lavenders like you mentioned. I guess I can't really know for sure if I've done the wrong winterizing for them until spring hits and we see what we find. I'm so curious about that but unfortunately, I have another 5 months to wait. I know next to nothing about pruning roses so that's where most of my researching will be. This group may be quiet but it's good to know it's here. It will likely come in handy for me in the future. Thanks for the reply. Tammie Just above Lake Superior's North Shore Zone 2b (roughly) http://community.webshots.com/user/thache "Gail Futoran" wrote in message news Hi Tammie and welcome! I "know" you from the rec.birds group. I mostly lurk there. |
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Hi Tammi
Welcome to the group and growing roses. The Morden line of roses was developed in Canada at the Morden Research Center. I believe that this is part of the Canadian Agriculture department. Look at http://www.agr.gc.ca/cal/epub/1727e/1727_toc_e.html You can find a lot of information and from the Canadian Rose Society. I have a number of the Morden and Parkland roses; they are very good garden roses and very hardy in Northern Colorado. Tim "bthache" wrote in message news:AAhnf.93059$ki.59089@pd7tw2no... Hello, I'm new to this group and also new to rose bushes. This past summer, we planted 4 Morden super winter hardy rose bushes and they did phenomenally well. Two of them easily tripled in size from July to October and the other two easily doubled in the same time period. And boy, did they all bloom! It was a fabulous show. It was finally the cold, snow and heavy frost that stopped them in late October. I never dreamed roses would bloom that late into the autumn. The last of the buds are now frozen in place for the winter. We mulched the roots with cedar bark mulch for the winter but otherwise, did nothing else to winterize them. I've never had rose bushes before so really had no idea, aside from the mulch, what to do. I've got my fingers crossed that they handle our severe winters alright. What I'm wondering is what to do in the spring. Do I prune them? Do I leave them alone to do their own thing? Have we made a mistake by not covering them? (They are now buried in snow anyway... nature's own insulation). Here's one of my flowers from the summer. http://community.webshots.com/photo/...06070862IPYFin Thanks for any advice. -- Tammie - Northern Ontario, Canada Near Lake Superior's North Shores http://community.webshots.com/user/thache 49.1304398 -85.8325272 |
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Hi Tim,
Thanks so much for the link. I've saved it and will refer to it when looking for new rose bushes next year. -- Tammie Just above Lake Superior's North Shore Zone 2b (roughly) http://community.webshots.com/user/thache "Tim Tompkins" wrote in message ... Hi Tammie Welcome to the group and growing roses. The Morden line of roses was developed in Canada at the Morden Research Center. I believe that this is part of the Canadian Agriculture department. Look at http://www.agr.gc.ca/cal/epub/1727e/1727_toc_e.html You can find a lot of information and from the Canadian Rose Society. I have a number of the Morden and Parkland roses; they are very good garden roses and very hardy in Northern Colorado. Tim |
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Hello Group, good advice here! Do any of you know where I can get a Cl.
Double Delight? Been looking all over the Web. Thanks for any link. JoeT |
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"jtill" wrote in message ups.com... Hello Group, good advice here! Do any of you know where I can get a Cl. Double Delight? Been looking all over the Web. Thanks for any link. JoeT You did not tell us where you are located! Start with www.helpmefind.com/roses Tim |
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Baytown Texas, just outside Houston!
Joet |
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JoeT,
I think the reason you cannot find a climbing "Double Delight" is because such a creature , if it currently exists, is not available on the retail market. To best of my considerable knowledge, it DOESN"T exist. There is a Hybrid Tea Rose named "Double Delight" that is simply "to die for" pretty. It starts out cream white then turns cherry red starting at the outside edges of the petals inwards. Personaly, it reminds me of Vanilla icecream with cherry syrup It should be available bare-root at any Box Store garden center or your favorite actual retail nursery very soon now. Perhaps you may have mis-rembered the type of rose or the name? Anthony B. Ky. Nursery and Landscapers Association Certified Nurseryman "jtill" wrote in message ups.com... Hello Group, good advice here! Do any of you know where I can get a Cl. Double Delight? Been looking all over the Web. Thanks for any link. JoeT |
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reply retraction "CL. Double Delight"
"jtill" wrote in message ups.com... Hello Group, good advice here! Do any of you know where I can get a Cl. Double Delight? Been looking all over the Web. Thanks for any link. JoeT Joe, Cl. Double Delight does indeed exist. ( used Tim Tompkins posted link: http://www.helpmefind.com/roses ) I have been searching the net extensivly for a supplier for you. None of the ones listed at helpmefind.com/roses currently have it listed as available. I get the feeling that this rose is going to be very hard to find and will probably have a price reflecting this. I will continue to keep searching for you and will post a reply as soon as I can find a grower. Anthony B. |
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reply retraction "CL. Double Delight"
Anthony,Thanks for you effort! I will pay for a plant or a cutting. It
may take some time but surely one will show up. Best Regards JoeT Baytown, Texas |
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"jtill" wrote in message ups.com... Baytown Texas, just outside Houston! Joet HelpMeFind does not list a source for Cl. Double Delight, sorry I did not look before my previous post. Since you are in the Houston area I encourage you to seek help/assistance from the Houston Rose Society, www.houstonrose.org BTW, Cl. Double Delight is not a Morden rose, it is registered as a Cl. Hybrid Tea, a sport of Double Delight. Tim |
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