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How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Hi group,
Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? Emil |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Emil wrote:
Hi group, Hello, Emil. Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Bred in the bones :-). Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. No, never, I am not a Rosarian, but just a person who loves to grow roses. -- Radika California USDA 9 / Sunset 15 |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, "Emil" wrote:
Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? Emil Hi Emil, My Dad has always had an incredible green thumb. I can remember when I was a kid the neighbors always complimenting him on his roses. He can dig up wildflowers and transplant them without them showing any signs of shock. He never kills a plant. So I've always been interested in gardening, but I stayed away from the roses at first because I thought they were difficult and demanding. When I moved into this house there was an Oklahoma and a couple minis stuck in the grass right out in front. They were looking pretty sad. I think the realtor had plopped them into the ground because there were no other plantings and she figured having a few blooms out there would help sell the place. Instead of tearing them out, I tried to save them and babied them and they started looking better. I still had the attitude that roses were difficult, though. The second year I was here, the Antique Rose Emporium catalog showed up in the mail and I found out about OGR's and ordered several. I then had my curiosity going about roses and started looking into them. I found out I really liked the OGR's and they weren't so hard to grow. I then ordered several David Austin roses and found out they either liked me or were also not that difficult. I also thought they were so beautiful that I could not live without them. Then I had a brief period of insanity when I would order every rose I saw that appealed to me. I have since found I have much better luck with Austins and OGR's than the hybrid teas. I think I must be on every mailing list related to roses. A large percentage of my bookmarks are websites that are in some way or another related to roses. I don't think I have bought anything new for the garden that wasn't a rose in the last couple years. Nothing beats the satisfaction of growing beautiful roses. I am officially obsessed. Mike z8TX |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
"Emil" wrote in message
... Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? Emil That's a fun question, Emil. I suppose I've always liked roses but had avoided them because I heard they were hard to grow. Then we moved into our present home about 8 years ago and it came with a small rose bed. I cared for it, learned about roses, killed a few, but still wasn't "hooked" on roses until I got the idea to create a theme rose bed, based on a TV show I was obsessed with. The "Xena Warrior Princess" rose bed started with 16 roses in a circular pattern. Roses were chosen to represent different characters. E.g., Caesar's rose is Royal Amethyst, Hercules's rose is Peace, Ares's rose is Intrigue. (Others are not historical characters or well-known mythical characters so I won't bore non-Xena fans with their names.) Once that process was completed, I was able to plan beds based on color, and eventually branched out into old garden roses. I now have between 135 and 140 roses and love them all, even the "non-Xena" roses. :) Gail San Antonio TX Zone 8 |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
"Emil" wrote in message
... Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? I guess my story is similar to yours. While my mother had a couple of roses when I was young that I used to love picking, it wasn't until we signed the contract on our first home (just over a year ago) that I became interested in gardening for myself. The house had very little in the way of gardens and what was there was overgrown. In the month and a half wait before we could move into the house, we had already accumulated at least six roses in pots and some other plants for our new garden. Like yourself, it seemed that each time I went to the nursery I came back with a new rose. Our land area is quite small so I only have 13 HT/Floribundas/Climbers and the rest of the crew (14) are miniature/patio roses in pots in the courtyard out the back. I have also found that the more I read of what everyone else has/likes in this newsgroup, the more roses I am sure that I need to find space for :) Kirra Brisbane, Australia Z10 |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Emil asked:
Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? I wouldn't call it a hobby..... more like a sickness..... heh heh (Long) Downward slide story follows: I have always been a gardener since I was a little kid (I'm 51 now), but mostly what I would grow would be lots of veggies and annual flowers and maybe bulbs. Never had much of a yard living in the city as I do, but I always grew something. Fast Forward to 1994. I bought an old corner drugstore building and a year later the vacant lot next door. Then I decided I wanted a real garden so I rented a large Front End loader and dug up the large parking lot and put in a couple of veggie beds and 6 foot cedar fences. The veggie beds only took up one corner of the property (The building and land is about 1/2 acre). So during the winter of 1996/7 I decided to put in a large perennial garden. I knew nothing of perennials, so I went to the garden centers and home stores and bought 3 to 5 of every single thing I could get my hands on. I built a bunch of raised beds and put in the perennials. Among the perennials were 4 rose bushes. I new little of roses, so I chose the varieties as follows: A red one, a yellow one, an orange one and a red and white one with good scent. Later in mid summer I added a creamy white and pink blend one, a yellow pink and white one that smelled great and a purple one. As the season wore on, I kept finding myself going back and checking on each rose every day. I learned their names. I gave a couple of them nicknames. (My first seven: Gypsy, Golden Fantasie, Arizona, Double Delight, Charles Aznavour, Summer Fashion and Lagerfeld). I quickly learned that if you deadhead them they will bloom again and I religiously did so. By the end of the season I knew I wanted more. I needed RESEARCH! I checked the web, and the newsgroups and discovered an earlier incarnation of this very newsgroup that was quite a bit more active than it is now. Fall of 97 through Spring of 98 was spent reading all messages on this group plus a few rose books. The instant the 'bare root in a bag's showed up I was there, and no rose was too lousy for me to want. But I did show some restraint and while meaning only to get at most 20 more that year I ended up with like.....60. I needed more beds so I expanded into my vacant lot area...... but there was plenty more room for......next year's roses '99 season.....when I bought another 70 and then got another 25 when a big public garden was pulled out here. The course of events was set... one year led to another and by the time the dust settles in mid summer here in '03 I will have about 380 or more varieties. And yes I have run out of space. I now have a library of about 40 rose books and have read more, (including some older and obscure tomes) .....I've looked at hundreds of rose web sites and spent thousands of hours growing, reading about, photographing, writing about, building web sites and talking about Roses, roses and more roses. I consider my rose education to have started beginning that first year on rec.gardens.roses in the winter of 1997/98.......my freshman year of rose college. I now consider myself to be in rose graduate school just finishing up my Master's this season. And next year to start working on my PhD in roses.... (Piled higher and Deeper)......... heh heh Bob Bauer Zone 6 in Salt Lake City http://www.rose-roses.com/ |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Emil wrote:
Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? What a neat idea for a thread, Emil. Thanks. A really wonderful friend of mine planned my wedding, and her gift to me (besides that) was the flowers. All of this was wonderful because I wanted a special day (we had all had a lot of sadness that year) for our families, but I am not good at girly stuff like that. When she asked me what I wanted for a bouquet and arrangements, I looked in magazines and chose photos of sorbet colored, full blown, gorgeous roses, with herbs and other greenery. She did this so well--forced the blooms, etc.--I thought I had never seen flowers so gorgeous. It was a great day. So when we bought the house, I decided to try to grow what I thought was most beautiful. And--for my friend, I wanted to find a great purple rose, as they are her favorite. This is why I chose Lagerfeld as my first rose--not purple but the closest to it at the garden center. |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:23:36 -0700, "Emil" wrote:
Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? Emil My story begins 2 1/2 years ago when I bought my current house. There was a big impressive rose bush in the front yard, and several other roses next to the house. When the big bush (my Aloha) bloomed for the first time, I was hooked. The other roses looked pretty good as well... So, I decided to continue the theme as well as try to learn about the ones that I already had. I'm only up to about 25 roses, which I think is just about appropriate for my lot, and I think that 25 -30 is a good comfort zone for me. I used to be into orchids but I just couldn't provide the proper environment for them... dave |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Emil wrote:
Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. My family have been gardeners for many generations, with stories going back to my grandmother gardening with *her* grandfather. I had my own garden from the time I was 5 YO. We bought this home 9 years ago on a sunny, windy knoll, completely unlandscaped. That's when the rose thing struck, around the same time I retired. My landscaper suggested there was a good location for a rose garden, and I started buying books and asking questions here. Heh heh. That was 214 roses ago. Because of the rigors of my site, I started out looking for bomb proof, wind proof roses, and I've never changed that objective. I was irretrievably hooked when the first roses I planted, a hybrid musk, Iceberg, an Austin and a rugosa, took off and grew like weeds. -- -=- Cass Zone 9 San Francisco Bay Area http://home.attbi.com/~cassbernstein/index.html |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Emil wrote:
So what's everybody story? Great idea! Thanks! My paternal grandmother and maternal great grandmother were avid gardeners and i used to help in their gardens. After my parents divorce, we never owned another home again when I lived at home so I never had the opportunity for a garden until I loved out on my home. I indulged in my first rose then - a chicago peace - and she bloomed beautifully in southwest PA. However, I knew *nothing* about gardening or plants. I think I simply believed that if you planted something, it would *just* grow but roses were always the Queen of Plants to me. After I moved down here and my ex-husband and I bought a house, I tried to plant roses again. Silly me, put the roses under the trees next to my pond. Dead roses *real* quick. Then, I bought some houseplants - dead houseplants real quick again. At this point the belief that I was born to kill plants happened. Never did the thought cross my mind that it was a totally tree lined lot with a completely shaded house and *just* perhaps the full sun plants I was buying were inappropriate for the area. Fast forward to six years ago - my stepfather who raised me and I adored died after a long bout with leukemia. Fuqua sent a peace lily to the funeral and my mother gave it to me to take home. I was terrified but became determined that I *had* to keep this plant alive. Research mode finally set in. *grin* When my s.o. and I bought our house two years ago, one of the reasons we bought it was for the lot placement and the amount of light in the house. Gardening passion set its hooks into me as soon as we finished the interior of the house and I've not looked back since. Gardening is my therapy these days. My family is going through an incredibly tough time the last couple of months and nothing makes me feel better than to be able to get out into the garden for the day. Susan s h simko at duke dot edu |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
What got me started originally ... When I was a child, my family and I lived
in a 100-yr old farmhouse on the southwestern Iowa plains (zone 5 - ends of the earth). The previous owners had a number of tough flowering shrubs and trees around the house; one of them was a little sulfur-yellow semidouble rose with tiny leaves and twiggy branches and a rather unpleasant smell that became covered in golden yellow blooms in spring. That became "my" rose; it was just about as tall as me. Sometimes I couldn't wait for the buds to open, so I "helped" them by prying them open! That little rose bloomed faithfully with no protection, no fertilizer, nothing - and had probably survived for nearly 100 years. But when my parents decided to build a new house, my rose was bulldozed one day when I was at school. I was heartbroken. (My first heartbreak with roses! Many more to come!) Now, even though I love and grow contemporary HTs and some Austins, I'd still like to find that little old yellow rose ... Sue in SoCal "Emil" wrote in message ... Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? Emil |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
My great grandmother had about 50 in a very large farm garden (Her name was
Rose) and I loved the way the garden smelled and looked. Ever since I was a small child I can remeber running and playing through the garden with my siblings and cousins and would like to create something like that for my future generations to enjoy. Really I have been hooked on roses since I was a small child. Heather "Emil" wrote in message ... Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? Emil -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =----- |
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"Emil" wrote in message ...
Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? Emil When I was a kid, my uncle bought me a couple of roses. I followed his instructions about fertilizing etc. religiously, and, boy, that first bloom was something! Alas, when the summer came (back home in India, the mild winter is the time whne you grow roses), the grafted variety died, and the suckers was all that was left. I did not pursue the hobby any more after that. So, when I moved into Portland, the Rose City, I thought it was time to get back a part of my childhood... Debu. P.S. Last year, I took 5 roses (Double Delight, Mr. Lincoln, New Zealand, Dolly Parton, Secret) for that uncle of mine. So far they have been doing great. I also gave him some water-absorbing polymer so that the plants don't get dry in the summer. Just keeping my fingers crossed... |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
My grandfather grew roses and they were HTs, though I remember folloiwng him aroudn while he sprayed them with a brass sprayer; and my parents never dreamed of growing anything so high-maintenance. Then (because I like the Bloomsberries) someone gave me a collection of Vita Sackville West's garden writings, illustrated, and I thought 'what are these amazing flowers that look like something in a Dutch still life?'' For a while I just looked at other people's at Hidcote and Sissinghurst and the like, but eventually I bought my first one - 'Roseraie de L'Hay', and to my amazement, it didn't die (though in fact I didn't water it enough, didn't mulch it, and never fed it, so it's odd that it didn't.) From then I was hooked, and now I have sixty-five roses, nearly all pre 1945, though like you I've lately accepted the odd modern rose - of good family, of course! - into my paradise. I still like HTs only in very formal gardens, though, and mine is all cottagey-mixed. -- Jane Lumley |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:42:28 GMT, "Susan Solomon"
wrote: Now, I'd still like to find that little old yellow rose ... Sue in SoCal Well Sue, today is your lucky day, the rose you are describing is definitely 'Rosa foetida persiana'. From the semi double small yellow bloom form to the small leaves, large bush size and the smell. (Foetid.... as in Rosa foetida). You can get this rose in a ton of places, so go ahead and buy it now. Good luck, Bob Bauer |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
One of the houses we lived in when I was a kid had a whole side of
the house dedicated to roses. They were there when we moved in, and still there three years later when we moved out, my dad took great care of them. I've just always loved the look and especially the SMELL. Now I live in my very own house, and it came with a small rose garden right in the front. Most of the varieties are common HTs of the 50s/60s (at least the ones I've been able to figure out!), so nothing special or rare. There were also some pink Simplicities along a fence. Since then I've added a few of my own, I stumbled on the Canadian Explorer hardy roses at a fall sale, and have been VERY happy with them (especially John Cabot!). I have a HUGE briar patch that is rosa eglantaria, over 10 ft high with arching canes that cover themselves in hips and start new little eglantarias all over the place. That's an original member of the yard too. I put a alba suavolens nearby to try and make a hedge to hide the neighbors ;-). After seeing Cheryl Netter's Jeanne LeJoie (as big as my eglantaria!), I planted one myself, but the poor thing is struggling in a dry and semi shady location, but still is there and blooming, just not taking off into a 10 ft monster. Minis are definitely wonderful- they seem hardier than the big guys and bloom more too! And Susan, the yellow rose you remember so fondly sure sounds like "Harison's Yellow". I put one of those in the back yard (the dog yard) since it was supposed to be so hardy, but last year I had some sort of bad cane dieback :-(. Hopefully this year it will rebound. It's a wonderful rose, totally covered in buttery yellow blooms during May/June and I can smell it from the back porch. Tracy Lorraine Smith Boulder, CO Zone 5 Emil wrote: Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? Emil |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Emil wrote: Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? OK, I'll play along. When we bought this house 10 yrs ago there were a few scraggly roses and I logged on to the formerly wonderful rec.gardens.roses to perhaps learn what to do with them. It was a warm and friendly group (I still have a big folder of print-outs of messages which included advice, but also poetry, essays, observations, erudition, short stories, and some gentle insults). I became an enthusiast. When Judy Pineda hosted a dinner party for Sam McGreedy, I had to be there. When the group got T-shirts (thanks to Alice) and wore them to SJHRG, I had to be there too. I now have maybe 60 roses in the ground and 20 in pots. Latest purchase is Hot Cocoa, even thought I didn't want any more floribundas, the color got me. zia maria |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Hello Emil, In the DNA. That is the only explanation. My great-grandmother lived in Scotland and her place was nothing if not covered with roses and heathers both of which I loved when we went to visit. One set of grandparents lived in Provence, nothing but lavender and roses there as well. Another set of grandparents lived in Tuscany, olives and roses there. In 1971 I moved to Portland and many a trip later to their homes my old garden had some of the most beautiful roses -to me- that could be found anywhere. Almost all, just like now in our new garden, old garden roses. After selling the house because of health reasons and moving to a condo by the river I realized that all the views in this world can not rival that of a rose garden in bloom, so in July of 2000 we bought this house and began all over again. With over 170 roses and counting, I can tell you that I am convinced a rose lover is born. It may take some time and detours to become a roseholic, but if it is in your DNA, there is no hope for you. Allegra who still thinks that a life without a rose garden is not worth living ;) |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
In article ,
says... What got me started originally ... When I was a child, my family and I lived in a 100-yr old farmhouse on the southwestern Iowa plains (zone 5 - ends of the earth). The previous owners had a number of tough flowering shrubs and trees around the house; one of them was a little sulfur-yellow semidouble rose with tiny leaves and twiggy branches and a rather unpleasant smell that became covered in golden yellow blooms in spring. That became "my" rose; it was just about as tall as me. Sometimes I couldn't wait for the buds to open, so I "helped" them by prying them open! That little rose bloomed faithfully with no protection, no fertilizer, nothing - and had probably survived for nearly 100 years. But when my parents decided to build a new house, my rose was bulldozed one day when I was at school. I was heartbroken. (My first heartbreak with roses! Many more to come!) Now, even though I love and grow contemporary HTs and some Austins, I'd still like to find that little old yellow rose ... Sue in SoCal the rose Bob mentioned, certainly one of my faves on eart http://www.nmt.edu/~mstephen/py02.jpg here's a close one: http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/Persi99.jpg one day I grew a great red rose, now I have a computer filled with truly bizarre stuff. m |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 22:55:39 -0700, Maria Martin
wrote: OK, I'll play along. When we bought this house 10 yrs ago there were a few scraggly roses and I logged on to the formerly wonderful rec.gardens.roses to perhaps learn what to do with them. It was a warm and friendly group (I still have a big folder of print-outs of messages which included advice, but also poetry, essays, observations, erudition, short stories, and some gentle insults). I became an enthusiast. When Judy Pineda hosted a dinner party for Sam McGreedy, I had to be there. When the group got T-shirts (thanks to Alice) and wore them to SJHRG, I had to be there too. I now have maybe 60 roses in the ground and 20 in pots. Latest purchase is Hot Cocoa, even thought I didn't want any more floribundas, the color got me. That is so nice! Whatever part of wonderful is missing now can still be had, you know. In PRIVATE groups where you can all wear the same t-shirts and make plans for dinner every week and even have a secret handshake if you want. Meanwhile, welcome to rgr 2003. zia maria |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
thank you :-)
Shiva wrote: That is so nice! Whatever part of wonderful is missing now can still be had, you know. In PRIVATE groups where you can all wear the same t-shirts and make plans for dinner every week and even have a secret handshake if you want. Meanwhile, welcome to rgr 2003. zia maria |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
lms wrote:
In article , says... Now, even though I love and grow contemporary HTs and some Austins, I'd still like to find that little old yellow rose ... the rose Bob mentioned, certainly one of my faves on eart http://www.nmt.edu/~mstephen/py02.jpg here's a close one: http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/Persi99.jpg That is absolutely stunning, especially the second shot where the leaves and the petals look stunningly contrasted. Awesome, awesome ... Is that a grape vine in the foreground in the first shot? Still planning to make wine? one day I grew a great red rose, now I have a computer filled with truly bizarre stuff. Mind explaining? -- Radika California USDA 9 / Sunset 15 |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Not a boast but I bet everyone here who grows
roses consistently has the greenest of green thumbs in their families. I mostly grow roses because I can. Everyone I talk to has horror stories to relate about their naive attempts at growing them. I grow them on balconies, in pots, by windows, under gro-lights, in basements, by the kitchen sink, in big pots in small pots. I right now grow a 4' high miniature rose in a half gallon pot. I've grown species, hybrid and got them all to thrive. I supect millions try to grow roses only a few consistently do well. So we stick with the spectacular rewards that come our way. -- Theo in Zone 5 Kansas City "Emil" wrote in message ... Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? Emil |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
"Theo Asir" wrote Not a boast but I bet everyone here who grows roses consistently has the greenest of green thumbs in their families. Hello Theo, No, far from the greenest, but the most smashed, mutilated, poked by prickles and impossible to keep clean in my family at least...;) Apparently the roses don't seem to care about that. Allegra |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
In article ,
says... lms wrote: In article , says... Now, even though I love and grow contemporary HTs and some Austins, I'd still like to find that little old yellow rose ... the rose Bob mentioned, certainly one of my faves on eart http://www.nmt.edu/~mstephen/py02.jpg here's a close one: http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/Persi99.jpg That is absolutely stunning, especially the second shot where the leaves and the petals look stunningly contrasted. Awesome, awesome ... why...why...why...thank you, k rad, I'll be your messenger. that thing has escaped the grounds, has popped up on the other side of the pickets, in horse territory. they'll strip everything they can reach on some roses, but they leave this one and R. primula alone. Is that a grape vine in the foreground in the first shot? being still naked, the extent to which: http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/8x6S.jpg there's another wor like this one off the right edge of this pic but the roses on that side fight with it from boat sides of the fence. It's a pretty even fight although periodically, every other year or so I hedge the bets and hack the grape. what gives me a good charge in this pic is that skyrose right-center, back there along the fence--Cl. McGredy's Sunset, which was in the first order I placed with Roses of Yesterday and Today years ago, and my first hugely successful moved rose. Used to grow in front of--north of--Cl. Talisman, Trigintipetala and Soleil d'Or--they were smothering it. At the time I requested that RoY&T catalog I wanted to plant some old roses but when I actually got the catalog I ended up getting just two 'old' roses, Leda and Trigintipetala aka Kazanlik. The other 'modern' was Cl. Talisman, they're all still alive and plenty potent. omni potent. And I almost forgot, I'm also growing 74 Oldsmobiles out there. It's greening up. Still planning to make wine? haha. definitely, it's right up there wit crossing foetida bicolor with Elina, only need another Elina. one day I grew a great red rose, now I have a computer filled with truly bizarre stuff. Mind explaining? the red rose, a recorded first rose moment http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/nuuk.jpg all the ones and zeroes, you know who you are hahahaha, it's all gobbledegook without a decoder. m -- Radika California USDA 9 / Sunset 15 |
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How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
I will have about 380 .... And yes I have run out of space. thank God! I thought you were going Supernova on us. God knows I want to. I've got plans for the 'public' strips on the street side of my building and lot. heh great story though, and '69 rules As I recall we got a lot of mileage out the phrase 'The class of '69' nice..... Dr. Brownell is in the bag here with me. Among others...... many others...... heh heh BTW, I am learning that there are only so many rose bushes that you can pawn off on your neighblors...... Bob Bauer |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Bob Bauer wrote:
great story though, and '69 rules As I recall we got a lot of mileage out the phrase 'The class of '69' Cheeses, you guys are old. That's *my* class. Dr. Brownell is in the bag here with me. Among others...... many others...... heh heh BTW, I am learning that there are only so many rose bushes that you can pawn off on your neighblors...... Time to convert one of the relatives. |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Cass wrote:
Bob Bauer wrote: great story though, and '69 rules As I recall we got a lot of mileage out the phrase 'The class of '69' Cheeses, you guys are old. That's *my* class. Heheh. I am from the class of '68, not that this means anything in terms of my age g. Dr. Brownell is in the bag here with me. Among others...... many others...... heh heh BTW, I am learning that there are only so many rose bushes that you can pawn off on your neighblors...... Time to convert one of the relatives. And convince Second Harvest Food Bank that they really need rose bushes along with food donations. -- Radika California USDA 9 / Sunset 15 |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
lms wrote:
In article , says... http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/Persi99.jpg That is absolutely stunning, ... why...why...why...thank you, k rad, I'll be your messenger. Heh. You are welcome, it's the truth, and thank you for the offer. that thing has escaped the grounds, has popped up on the other side of the pickets, in horse territory. they'll strip everything they can reach on some roses, but they leave this one and R. primula alone. That is definitely a plus. Is that a grape vine in the foreground in the first shot? being still naked, the extent to which: http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/8x6S.jpg ... Aye, that is still naked all right. Here, they just started leafing out, but it beign a very strange El nino / La Vieja cycle of a year, the Concord is completely bloomed and the Muscat is mid-way in blooming. Very strange patterns of growth and bloom this year. or so I hedge the bets and hack the grape. Well, you still have them quite large. I think. what gives me a good charge in this pic is that skyrose right-center, back there along the fence--Cl. McGredy's Sunset, which was in the first order I placed with Roses of Yesterday and Today years ago, and my first hugely successful moved rose. Show me again, please, when they bloom. I lack in imagination. Why did you move that rose? Used to grow in front of--north of--Cl. Talisman, Trigintipetala and Soleil d'Or--they were smothering it. At the time I requested that RoY&T catalog I wanted to plant some old roses but when I actually got the catalog I ended up getting just two 'old' roses, Leda and Trigintipetala aka Kazanlik. The other 'modern' was Cl. Talisman, they're all still alive and plenty potent. omni potent. Speaking of potent and fecund roses, for the first time in all these years, I have got rose seedlings popping up in a couple of different places; one is something from Irene Watts, or Souv de St. Anne's and some Moore miniatures; the other is something from one of Kim's roses - Dotty Louise, Othello, Gertrude Jekyll and Comte de Chambord. That's what happens when I give up on deadheading. Am just letting the seedlings grow in situ to see if I can tell what is what. And I almost forgot, I'm also growing 74 Oldsmobiles out there. It's greening up. Very luxuriantly too. haha. definitely, it's right up there wit crossing foetida bicolor with Elina, only need another Elina. Isn't bicolor sterile? It is blooming now, and is gorgeous. I have got too much lavender at its feet, need to hack through it soon. And what happened to the other Elina? Bit the dust? Bit the ice? Mind explaining? the red rose, a recorded first rose moment http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/nuuk.jpg all the ones and zeroes, you know who you are hahahaha, it's all gobbledegook without a decoder. Mister Lincoln g? -- Radika California USDA 9 / Sunset 15 |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
This turned into a nice thread. :-) Thanks to everybody who replied!
Emil "Emil" wrote in message ... Hi group, Out of curiosity...How did everybody start with their hobby, more like a passion :-) of roses? Did you learn by watching parents plant roses? Is growing roses your occupation, any of you own a nursery? Etc. Etc. As for me, when we bought our first house a couple of years ago, we bought 4 roses. Everytime we went to the nursery, we came home with more and more roses. Final count at our old house was close to 35 rose bushes that I planted from bareroots. So what's everybody story? Emil |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Radika Kesavan wrote:
Speaking of potent and fecund roses, for the first time in all these years, I have got rose seedlings popping up in a couple of different places; one is something from Irene Watts, or Souv de St. Anne's and some Moore miniatures; the other is something from one of Kim's roses - Dotty Louise, Othello, Gertrude Jekyll and Comte de Chambord. That's what happens when I give up on deadheading. Am just letting the seedlings grow in situ to see if I can tell what is what. I wish I had seedlings, but where I've had budded roses and moved them, I think I'm getting root divisions of the rootstock. If the darned things would just flower, already. This happens so often that I'm surprised I don't hear about it from others. Or am I the only one to redecorate their roses? I've been encouraged by the results of the moves, and I moved some honkers. |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
Cass wrote:
Radika Kesavan wrote: Speaking of potent and fecund roses, for the first time in all these years, I have got rose seedlings popping up in a couple of different places; .... I wish I had seedlings, but where I've had budded roses and moved them, I think I'm getting root divisions of the rootstock. Oh, aye, that has happened to me too, in three places specifically. That is why I am careful to jump to the conclusion that only the "new" roses that come up in rose-virgin territory are seedlings. If the darned things would just flower, already. This happens so often that I'm surprised I don't hear about it from others. I thought it was my unique problem too! And, also, ever since the Rose Rosette disease talk came up to be talked about, I am hacking at these root divisions of rootstock with vigour, where I can reach them (one of them is in the middle of a minor sea of St. John's Wort, so it is hard to tackle). I am not sure if any of my roses have multiflora as understock, but who needs long lanky canes that bloom not and might be a source of other headaches? Or am I the only one to redecorate their roses? I've been encouraged by the results of the moves, and I moved some honkers. Same here, same here ... Yellow Lady banks and Reine des Violettes were the biggest roses I ever moved, but there have been others, too many others .... sigh ... -- Radika California USDA 9 / Sunset 15 |
How did everybody get started with their rose hobby?
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says... lms wrote: In article , says... Is that a grape vine in the foreground in the first shot? being still naked, the extent to which: http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/8x6S.jpg ... Aye, that is still naked all right. Here, they just started leafing out, but it beign a very strange El nino / La Vieja cycle of a year, the Concord is completely bloomed and the Muscat is mid-way in blooming. Very strange patterns of growth and bloom this year. or so I hedge the bets and hack the grape. Well, you still have them quite large. I think. over the twenty years they've been living they've just bent down that fence they're riding from 4' to 2'. squeeze play. what gives me a good charge in this pic is that skyrose right-center, back there along the fence--Cl. McGredy's Sunset, which was in the first order I placed with Roses of Yesterday and Today years ago, and my first hugely successful moved rose. Show me again, please, when they bloom. they're supposed to bloom? I lack in imagination. Why did you move that rose? It was down to it, you know, move it or lose it. them, I should say, moved Summer Sunshine and Mikado at the same time, they were the first roses to recognize the coming Dark Age, although at the time it was just roses killing roses. Planting roses three rows deep facing south ain't such a bright idea, especially if there's a slope involved. Summer Sunshine and Mikado are still with the living too, I'll add, though Summer Sunshine has to directly compete with Trier, something it is surprisingly coping well with. Really dig Mikado, but one I like better is Pompeii, which is available only from one cheap catalog I know of. Used to grow in front of--north of--Cl. Talisman, Trigintipetala and Soleil d'Or--they were smothering it. At the time I requested that RoY&T catalog I wanted to plant some old roses but when I actually got the catalog I ended up getting just two 'old' roses, Leda and Trigintipetala aka Kazanlik. The other 'modern' was Cl. Talisman, they're all still alive and plenty potent. omni potent. Speaking of potent and fecund roses, for the first time in all these years, I have got rose seedlings popping up in a couple of different places; excellent, it's always amazed me to imagine what happens to all those seedlings. I have one next to Alain Chandler, a gallica, grows next to Nicole on one side and two hybrid Moyesiis on the other. There's one several years old I've never been able to make up my mind about, Chicago Peace is the closest unit. Whether it's rootstock or not. Chicago Peace has no resident invasion of rootstock. Blooms red, ain't Huey. I just noticed another one the other day, it's in an unlikely location, next to a couple roses which have never grown like rockets but never seem to lose their edge on life either. Yesterday I popped open a Nevada hip and took a taste-- dried, tasteless--but it certainly made me wonder how thousands upon thousands of seeds every year but no new roses. I haven't looked very closely lately, that's a good little project. one is something from Irene Watts, or Souv de St. Anne's and some Moore miniatures; the other is something from one of Kim's roses - Dotty Louise, Othello, Gertrude Jekyll and Comte de Chambord. That's what happens when I give up on deadheading. Am just letting the seedlings grow in situ to see if I can tell what is what. as easily as pecan trees sprout here I'm surprised I don't have more--I should just throw some hips in the irrigation ditch and 'stomp' them in. haha. definitely, it's right up there wit crossing foetida bicolor with Elina, only need another Elina. Isn't bicolor sterile? no, I've seen tons of crosses with it in MR, it's all over the map, infact it's a rose which endlessly fascinates me in that respect. there are a couple sports of it--I'm dubious to any big differences with these, though I have seen none--and the one I have has sported at least 5 canes of straight yellow units, that is just the coolest thing to see. It is blooming now, and is gorgeous. I have got too much lavender at its feet, need to hack through it soon. Nevada inches into it more each year and so does RazIce but everything's a big mass and a big fight with none nearing the precipice, I like it that way. And what happened to the other Elina? Bit the dust? Bit the ice? Mind explaining? only ever had one Elina, killed it. gd it. was near and dear but the redbud keeps coming this way and if I hack it any more, it's going to lose all semblance of a redbud. the redbud killing roses, the pecans and me after the redbud, I just don't have a real good grip on the situation, never claimed to. the red rose, a recorded first rose moment http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/nuuk.jpg all the ones and zeroes, you know who you are hahahaha, it's all gobbledegook without a decoder. Mister Lincoln g? smoke and mirrors. my bigdog Chaco has taken to burying his food dish, I guess he's tired of Burt stealing it, taking it out to Apricot Twist and ****ing on it. Then Chaco will **** on it, then Burt again. Spent 3 days under Yves Piaget, that was a *very good one. And of course he wouldn't eat out of a metal bowl substitute. Last time for the first time, he took it across the ditch, buried it under Paul McCartney. Started to dig into the new glads and etc bed but it was too wet thangod. So I figured it must be closeby. Mr. Detective. If he's happy, I'm happy. Yesterday I noticed Canary Bird had started blooming and they all got freeze fried and I missed it, happened way early, must have, about the same time as Primula. It's in a wild and dangerous location, between Fruhlingsmorgen and Julie Annnnndrews, a pair of monsters. That whole area is just dangerous-- Gen Macarthur, Trier, Sparrieshoop. duck and weave navigation, you have to have a good reason to get close. m -- Radika California USDA 9 / Sunset 15 |
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