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Rose in trouble
A favorite rose of mine that I've had for many years, is in trouble.
The rose has stopped producing any new canes with blossoms. Canes are dying and more may die soon. A lot of new canes are being created but they are all at ground level, below the graft, I think. I think this new growth are suckers, not new blossom bearing canes. Where can I send jpg pictures so someone can advise me if any of this new growth is not suckers? IF they are all suckers, how can I cause the rose to produce canes above the graft? Should I remove all of the sucker growth? I live near Los Angeles in Southern Calif in San Fernando Valley. Thank you for any help. Dave_s |
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Rose in trouble
"Dave_s" wrote in message
... A favorite rose of mine that I've had for many years, is in trouble. The rose has stopped producing any new canes with blossoms. Canes are dying and more may die soon. A lot of new canes are being created but they are all at ground level, below the graft, I think. I think this new growth are suckers, not new blossom bearing canes. Where can I send jpg pictures so someone can advise me if any of this new growth is not suckers? IF they are all suckers, how can I cause the rose to produce canes above the graft? Should I remove all of the sucker growth? I live near Los Angeles in Southern Calif in San Fernando Valley. If there are any existing canes from the desirable rose, use it to create an own-root clone. Using this method: http://www.rdrop.com/~paul/hulse.html Otherwise if the graft has died, you'll have to dig it out and replace it with a new similar rose. That's why grafted roses are considered to be temporary roses, with an expected lifespan of about 10 years. -S |
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Rose in trouble
Snooze, that is a great site you recommended. I often want to root a
rose and have had only small success, this should help. Joe T Snooze wrote: "Dave_s" wrote in message ... A favorite rose of mine that I've had for many years, is in trouble. The rose has stopped producing any new canes with blossoms. Canes are dying and more may die soon. A lot of new canes are being created but they are all at ground level, below the graft, I think. I think this new growth are suckers, not new blossom bearing canes. Where can I send jpg pictures so someone can advise me if any of this new growth is not suckers? IF they are all suckers, how can I cause the rose to produce canes above the graft? Should I remove all of the sucker growth? I live near Los Angeles in Southern Calif in San Fernando Valley. If there are any existing canes from the desirable rose, use it to create an own-root clone. Using this method: http://www.rdrop.com/~paul/hulse.html Otherwise if the graft has died, you'll have to dig it out and replace it with a new similar rose. That's why grafted roses are considered to be temporary roses, with an expected lifespan of about 10 years. -S |
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Rose in trouble
We had graft bud roses last 17 years in a wooden pot. It almost died when we
got a hard freeze - but it was dormant and we had a camping heater and small tent over it and another plant. It was an odd year that one. We lived in the coastal mountains of Ca - several miles 'uphill and East' of Santa Cruz. I suspect the suckers from the root plant might be starving the grafted one. If the rose is still living above the graft - sample the roses when cutting off the root stock - it might be a good rose but not one that sales - perhaps an old one in the family line. We have had roses for many years, now trying to learn more about them ourselves. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member http://lufkinced.com/ jtill wrote: Snooze, that is a great site you recommended. I often want to root a rose and have had only small success, this should help. Joe T Snooze wrote: "Dave_s" wrote in message ... A favorite rose of mine that I've had for many years, is in trouble. The rose has stopped producing any new canes with blossoms. Canes are dying and more may die soon. A lot of new canes are being created but they are all at ground level, below the graft, I think. I think this new growth are suckers, not new blossom bearing canes. Where can I send jpg pictures so someone can advise me if any of this new growth is not suckers? IF they are all suckers, how can I cause the rose to produce canes above the graft? Should I remove all of the sucker growth? I live near Los Angeles in Southern Calif in San Fernando Valley. If there are any existing canes from the desirable rose, use it to create an own-root clone. Using this method: http://www.rdrop.com/~paul/hulse.html Otherwise if the graft has died, you'll have to dig it out and replace it with a new similar rose. That's why grafted roses are considered to be temporary roses, with an expected lifespan of about 10 years. -S ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Rose in trouble
"Dave_s" wrote in message
... A favorite rose of mine that I've had for many years, is in trouble. The rose has stopped producing any new canes with blossoms. Canes are dying and more may die soon. A lot of new canes are being created but they are all at ground level, below the graft, I think. I think this new growth are suckers, not new blossom bearing canes. Where can I send jpg pictures so someone can advise me if any of this new growth is not suckers? IF they are all suckers, how can I cause the rose to produce canes above the graft? Should I remove all of the sucker growth? I live near Los Angeles in Southern Calif in San Fernando Valley. Thank you for any help. Dave_s (1) Anything growing from *below* the graft (bud union) is from the root stock and should be removed all the way back to the source. Letting those grow will kill off the top, desirable part (called the scion). (2) An application of epsom salts in the soil around the rose is a common remedy to encourage basel breaks (new cane growth). You might also rough up the bud union a bit with a knife or steel brush. Don't overdo! The purpose is to give openings to basel breaks in the otherwise tough bark covered bud union. (3) It might be too late to save the rose. If the top part (scion) has died or is almost dead, it's probably a wasted effort. If you really like the rose and know which variety it is, plan to buy a new one for the spring. (4) Note that some roses, especially minis and old garden roses, are grown on their own roots - i.e., NOT grafted - so ALL new growth is part of the desirable rose. I'm guessing your rose is a modern, grafted rose, hence the problem you've observed. Gail near San Antonio TX USA Zone 8 |
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