On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Kim asked me:

Mike, do you have any links to sites that might show the general shape of a
bush once it's "fully grown"? Please see example of what I'm talking about at
the link below.

Hi Kim,

I'm sorry to say you have me stumped. I can't think of a site that has
photos or drawings of the mature form of a large variety of roses. It's hit
and miss with vendor sites - they sometimes show a shot of the entire
plant, but mostly stick with close-ups of the blooms. Non-vendor sites that
I've bookmarked are mostly specific to a particular "type" of rose, such as
Old Garden Roses or Austins. Or they relate to the care of roses, or have
lots of beautiful photographs (again, focusing on the blooms) of roses. I
would say that a site like you're hoping to find would be very useful,
though. Maybe someone else here knows of one?

I can tell you most floribundas tend to be medium size plants (about 4 feet
tall,) and a little wider than they are tall. The Fairy is a polyantha, it
will be a little shorter, not much - still a medium sized plant, and about
as wide as it is tall. The overall form will be very similiar to your
floribundas. Baby Grand is a miniature and will be the shortest plant by
far. Probably about a foot and a half tall and not as wide. This is
generally speaking, some floribundas are a little taller than others, etc.
I believe most of your roses will be around the same size and shape at
maturity, save the Baby Grand. Intrigue will probably be a little taller
than the other floribundas. The Fairy will probably be a little shorter
than your floribundas.

The best thing I could suggest is for you to look your roses up on
HelpMeFind. Here's the link to look your roses up by name:

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/searc...tTyp=name&865d
d947de4dfe8dcc2ee19cb3ebcbe6

You should be able to find out how tall each plant will be at maturity and
see pictures of each rose, although it's most likely the photos will be
close-ups of blooms. You may come across a few photos that show the whole
plant, though.

Sorry I couldn't give you better information. I hope this gives you some
idea, though - and try helpmefind. It will at least provide you with the
mature height of all your roses. Since all but two of your roses are
floribundas, they will all have similiar form, so you should be able to
figure out your design by finding out which floribunda should grow the
tallest and placing it in the center, and then arranging the others by
bloom color with your miniature Baby Grand as an accent.

A little bit of advice - you might end up wanting to get one or two
additional Baby Grands to balance out your design. Two or three of them,
either grouped together or strategically placed around the outside edge of
your design, might look better than just one with all those other
relatively tall roses. You could fit two or three miniatures in the space
you have reserved for one average-sized rose.

Good luck,

Mike
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