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Roses have not had a good time of it this year in my garden after the torrential rain which has affected so many gardens this summer. Only now am I getting some decent blooms from R. 'Korresia', R. 'Just Joey' and R. 'Crimson Cascade' for example.

Both R. 'William Shakespeare' and R. 'Pat Austin' have been a disaster throughout, and quite frankly I'm inclined to dig mine up and chuck 'em away! They do appear very weak and unable to hold up their heads on their spindly stems even. This has happened over several years and my patience with these two is just about exhausted. Conversely, 'Just Joey' which is almost identical to 'Pat Austin' in colour and form is a much more robust plant of similar age.
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Winsford wrote:

Roses have not had a good time of it this year in my garden after the
torrential rain which has affected so many gardens this summer. Only
now am I getting some decent blooms from R. 'Korresia', R. 'Just Joey'
and R. 'Crimson Cascade' for example.

Both R. 'William Shakespeare' and R. 'Pat Austin' have been a disaster
throughout, and quite frankly I'm inclined to dig mine up and chuck 'em
away! They do appear very weak and unable to hold up their heads on
their spindly stems even. This has happened over several years and my
patience with these two is just about exhausted. Conversely, 'Just
Joey' which is almost identical to 'Pat Austin' in colour and form is a
much more robust plant of similar age.


It depends upon where you live, of course. The torrential rains
in the north side of Chicago (where I am) revived my rose nicely
after the dry month before. New blooms and everything.

Of course, I have a Griffith Buck rose (my first and only one
so far), which was bred to be tough.

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Roses are a bit finicky I suppose. We got a spurt of yellow last week
and after several blooms the plants shut down.

It might be leaching of the soil or just tells them 'wrong season'.

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Winsford wrote:
Roses have not had a good time of it this year in my garden after the
torrential rain which has affected so many gardens this summer. Only
now am I getting some decent blooms from R. 'Korresia', R. 'Just Joey'
and R. 'Crimson Cascade' for example.

Both R. 'William Shakespeare' and R. 'Pat Austin' have been a disaster
throughout, and quite frankly I'm inclined to dig mine up and chuck 'em
away! They do appear very weak and unable to hold up their heads on
their spindly stems even. This has happened over several years and my
patience with these two is just about exhausted. Conversely, 'Just
Joey' which is almost identical to 'Pat Austin' in colour and form is a
much more robust plant of similar age.





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Roses have not had a good time of it this year in my garden after
the
torrential rain which has affected so many gardens this summer. Only
now am I getting some decent blooms from R. 'Korresia', R. 'Just
Joey'
and R. 'Crimson Cascade' for example.

Both R. 'William Shakespeare' and R. 'Pat Austin' have been a
disaster
throughout, and quite frankly I'm inclined to dig mine up and chuck
'em
away! They do appear very weak and unable to hold up their heads on
their spindly stems even. This has happened over several years and
my
patience with these two is just about exhausted. Conversely, 'Just
Joey' which is almost identical to 'Pat Austin' in colour and form
is a
much more robust plant of similar age.




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Winsford


I lost more roses this year than the last two
years. By comparison, the last two summers
were hot with little relief but I lost only a
few roses those years. I'm not as good about
feeding as I should be, so perhaps that's
why some of the weaker roses died this
year after all the rain we got. At any rate,
it's a good excuse to go rose shopping.

Gail
near San Antonio TX USA Zone 8


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"John M. Gamble" wrote in message
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In article ,
Winsford wrote:

Roses have not had a good time of it this year in my garden after
the
torrential rain which has affected so many gardens this summer. Only
now am I getting some decent blooms from R. 'Korresia', R. 'Just
Joey'
and R. 'Crimson Cascade' for example.

Both R. 'William Shakespeare' and R. 'Pat Austin' have been a
disaster
throughout, and quite frankly I'm inclined to dig mine up and chuck
'em
away! They do appear very weak and unable to hold up their heads on
their spindly stems even. This has happened over several years and
my
patience with these two is just about exhausted. Conversely, 'Just
Joey' which is almost identical to 'Pat Austin' in colour and form
is a
much more robust plant of similar age.


It depends upon where you live, of course. The torrential rains
in the north side of Chicago (where I am) revived my rose nicely
after the dry month before. New blooms and everything.

Of course, I have a Griffith Buck rose (my first and only one
so far), which was bred to be tough.

--
-john

February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.


I have three Buck roses, all "Distant Drums".
They do just great no matter what the local
weather throws at them.

Gail
near San Antonio TX USA Zone 8




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Gail Futoran wrote:
"John M. Gamble" wrote in message
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It depends upon where you live, of course. The torrential rains
in the north side of Chicago (where I am) revived my rose nicely
after the dry month before. New blooms and everything.

Of course, I have a Griffith Buck rose (my first and only one
so far), which was bred to be tough.


I have three Buck roses, all "Distant Drums".
They do just great no matter what the local
weather throws at them.


Mine is Prairie Sunrise. It had a nice yellow-orange sheen to it
in the picture, which alas hasn't shown itself in the flower in
real life (it's more of a cream off-white here). It may of course
be the local growing conditions - we have dirty sand here under
maybe a half-inch of topsoil - so we'll see how it goes after a
few years of mulching.

But I am wondering if I should have gotten Country Dancer instead.

Hmm. Web site: http://www.ag.iastate.edu/centers/cad/rose1.html

--
-john

February 28 1997: Last day libraries could order catalogue cards
from the Library of Congress.
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