Color change in Roses - is it PH sensitive
My beloved planted some deep purple roses - I don't have the name as of yet -
and after the second bloom the color is a lighter shade of purple. I'm thinking that the PH of the soil, clay and planting soil mixed might be altering the color. What does the knowledge base have on this ? I'll pursue the name - there is a tag on the plant. I know some plants move like litmus paper - pink acid and blue base. I think I have a rose working like that to a lesser amount. Martin -- Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
Color change in Roses - is it PH sensitive
I'd bet it's more a function of temp than pH.
jk "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message ... My beloved planted some deep purple roses - I don't have the name as of yet - and after the second bloom the color is a lighter shade of purple. I'm thinking that the PH of the soil, clay and planting soil mixed might be altering the color. What does the knowledge base have on this ? I'll pursue the name - there is a tag on the plant. I know some plants move like litmus paper - pink acid and blue base. I think I have a rose working like that to a lesser amount. Martin -- Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
Color change in Roses - is it PH sensitive
Sounds logical - temp. We have two "Ebb Tide" and both are in that mode.
The mix is not exactly the same. Size of hole and the amount of the local clay. Therefore the PH is slightly different between the two based on that. I'll monitor it from time to time. Might take fall to fall before change can be seen. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ Jeffrey L. Kline wrote: I'd bet it's more a function of temp than pH. jk "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message ... My beloved planted some deep purple roses - I don't have the name as of yet - and after the second bloom the color is a lighter shade of purple. I'm thinking that the PH of the soil, clay and planting soil mixed might be altering the color. What does the knowledge base have on this ? I'll pursue the name - there is a tag on the plant. I know some plants move like litmus paper - pink acid and blue base. I think I have a rose working like that to a lesser amount. Martin -- Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
Color change in Roses - is it PH sensitive
On Jun 15, 6:23 pm, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote: My beloved planted some deep purple roses - I don't have the name as of yet - and after the second bloom the color is a lighter shade of purple. I'm thinking that the PH of the soil, clay and planting soil mixed might be altering the color. What does the knowledge base have on this ? I'll pursue the name - there is a tag on the plant. I know some plants move like litmus paper - pink acid and blue base. I think I have a rose working like that to a lesser amount. Martin -- Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.http://lufkinced.com/ ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.pronews.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- I know that the last posting of this question was last month, but I also am having the same problem with two of my rose bushes. One is a climbing rose called "Night Owl." It is a new bush, that we just bought and planted about two months ago. The first time it bloomed, it bloomed a very dark wine purple, which is the color that it is suppose to be.....just beautiful. When the next set of blooms came out, they were all a magenta color. Also at the same time, we bought and planted, a hybrid tea rose called "Black Bacarra." This rose, as the name suggests, is the deepest of purple, in which makes the rose appear to be black in color. It now has bloomed twice, and both times the flowers have also been magenta in color. Other than what I have read about it possibly being the fact that the grafted part of the rose died, which I know for a fact didn't happen in my case, is there any reason for this, as I would love the have the color be what it is suppose to be. Thanking you............L |
Color change in Roses - is it PH sensitive
Most grafted roses in the USA use Dr Huey
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=1550 as the root stock. Its dark red and a nonrepeater. If your roses have bloomed twice, it is unlikely a Huey. (I have several exampled of Dr Huey in my garden, the result of root stock take-over!) My bet is still it is a temperature/sun light effect. Very dark blends seem to be most affected by high temperature and bleaching from the sun. My fragrant plum is very dark in the spring and fall and relatively pale in the heat and strong sun of the summer. I've not read or heard (nor have my rose connections) of pH having a big impact on the color of blooms, although iron deficiency associated alkaline pH can case pale foliage. Here's a nice explanation of that process: http://www.organicrosecare.org/artic...n_and_clay.php The pictures of Black Bacarra (they spell it Baccara, they claim the Bacarra spelling was a distributor's typo) on Help Me Find http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=42089&tab=1 show a wide variation in color, from red to almost black. I'd be interested to see what happen when it cools off a bit. Jeff, Southeast Michigan, Zone 5 wrote in message ... On Jun 15, 6:23 pm, "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote: My beloved planted some deep purple roses - I don't have the name as of yet - and after the second bloom the color is a lighter shade of purple. I'm thinking that the PH of the soil, clay and planting soil mixed might be altering the color. What does the knowledge base have on this ? I'll pursue the name - there is a tag on the plant. I know some plants move like litmus paper - pink acid and blue base. I think I have a rose working like that to a lesser amount. Martin -- Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.http://lufkinced.com/ ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.pronews.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- I know that the last posting of this question was last month, but I also am having the same problem with two of my rose bushes. One is a climbing rose called "Night Owl." It is a new bush, that we just bought and planted about two months ago. The first time it bloomed, it bloomed a very dark wine purple, which is the color that it is suppose to be.....just beautiful. When the next set of blooms came out, they were all a magenta color. Also at the same time, we bought and planted, a hybrid tea rose called "Black Bacarra." This rose, as the name suggests, is the deepest of purple, in which makes the rose appear to be black in color. It now has bloomed twice, and both times the flowers have also been magenta in color. Other than what I have read about it possibly being the fact that the grafted part of the rose died, which I know for a fact didn't happen in my case, is there any reason for this, as I would love the have the color be what it is suppose to be. Thanking you............L |
Color change in Roses - is it PH sensitive
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... On Jun 15, 6:23 pm, "Martin H. Eastburn" wrote: My beloved planted some deep purple roses - I don't have the name as of yet - and after the second bloom the color is a lighter shade of purple. I'm thinking that the PH of the soil, clay and planting soil mixed might be altering the color. What does the knowledge base have on this ? I'll pursue the name - there is a tag on the plant. I know some plants move like litmus paper - pink acid and blue base. I think I have a rose working like that to a lesser amount. Martin -- Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.http://lufkinced.com/ ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.pronews.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- I know that the last posting of this question was last month, but I also am having the same problem with two of my rose bushes. One is a climbing rose called "Night Owl." It is a new bush, that we just bought and planted about two months ago. The first time it bloomed, it bloomed a very dark wine purple, which is the color that it is suppose to be.....just beautiful. When the next set of blooms came out, they were all a magenta color. Also at the same time, we bought and planted, a hybrid tea rose called "Black Bacarra." This rose, as the name suggests, is the deepest of purple, in which makes the rose appear to be black in color. It now has bloomed twice, and both times the flowers have also been magenta in color. Other than what I have read about it possibly being the fact that the grafted part of the rose died, which I know for a fact didn't happen in my case, is there any reason for this, as I would love the have the color be what it is suppose to be. Thanking you............L Bloom color can vary due to cultural and weather factors. Your bushes are too new for you to be overly concerned. I would be patient and see how they do under different weather conditions. Gail near San Antonio TX Zone 8 USA |
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