Question: I understand that you cannot take cuttings from all rose plants.
Does anyone know anything about the climbers, "Don Juan and Joseph's Coat?"
I won't cut them back until after Thanksgiving and that's when I take my
cuttings. I have not tried these two yet. Any thoughts?

Thank you,

Bob

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Don't know much about Joseph's Coat, but Don Juan is a offspring of New
Dawn, which is quite easy to start. I'd say go for it, what do you have to
loss?

Jeff, Southeast Michigan, Zone 5


"Bob" wrote in message
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Question: I understand that you cannot take cuttings from all rose
plants. Does anyone know anything about the climbers, "Don Juan and
Joseph's Coat?" I won't cut them back until after Thanksgiving and that's
when I take my cuttings. I have not tried these two yet. Any thoughts?

Thank you,

Bob

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"Bob" wrote in message
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Question: I understand that you cannot take cuttings from all rose
plants. Does anyone know anything about the climbers, "Don Juan and
Joseph's Coat?" I won't cut them back until after Thanksgiving and that's
when I take my cuttings. I have not tried these two yet. Any thoughts?


Why not give it a go. Maybe it will work.

My old gardener told me that cuttings will not last as their root systems
are inferior.

I've got two roses grown from cuttings - not graftings - and both are
spectacular.

I grew white Icebergs from cuttings and planted them near the road where
they get no extra water or fertilizer, just an occasional weed and they
flower and flower and flower. (I am in South East Queensland)
p.s.My climbing Maria Callas is finally flowering after 2 years. (I just
had to share that.)
"YMC" wrote in message
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"Bob" wrote in message
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Question: I understand that you cannot take cuttings from all rose
plants. Does anyone know anything about the climbers, "Don Juan and
Joseph's Coat?" I won't cut them back until after Thanksgiving and that's
when I take my cuttings. I have not tried these two yet. Any thoughts?


Why not give it a go. Maybe it will work.

My old gardener told me that cuttings will not last as their root systems
are inferior.

I've got two roses grown from cuttings - not graftings - and both are
spectacular.

"YMC" wrote in message
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"Bob" wrote in message
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Question: I understand that you cannot take cuttings from all rose
plants. Does anyone know anything about the climbers, "Don Juan and
Joseph's Coat?" I won't cut them back until after Thanksgiving and
that's when I take my cuttings. I have not tried these two yet.
Any thoughts?


Why not give it a go. Maybe it will work.

My old gardener told me that cuttings will not last as their root
systems are inferior.

I've got two roses grown from cuttings - not graftings - and both
are spectacular.

I took a cutting from a hard-to-find OGR years ago. The "daughter"
plant is now larger than the "mom". I'm about to take more cuttings
since I'm moving and I doubt I'll be able to find this particular rose
again.
I've been less successful with some other OGRs, very successful with
rambler Red Cascade.

The key really is roses that grow on their own roots vs roses that are
grafted. The former are more likely to be successful, all else being
equal.

The American Rose Society has several good articles on propagating
roses through hardwood cuttings:
www.ars.org

You have to hunt a bit to find the Articles link.

Gail
near San Antonio TX Zone 8

posted ;
" Why not give it a go. Maybe it will work.

My old gardener told me that cuttings will not last
as their root systems are inferior.

I've got two roses grown from cuttings - not
graftings - and both are spectacular.
A few questions from a novice ;
Do you use a root stimulant such as " Rootone "
Do you have a soil/medium soley for cuttings
Do you keep the soil moist and the cutting in full sun ? How
about fertilizer -Dilute ?
Thanks , Don,..

Donald Keeney wrote:
Do you use a root stimulant such as " Rootone "

I used to use a hormone rooting poweder until it became unobtainable here.

Now, based on a tip I read here, I use honey. It works wonderfully.

"Donald Keeney" wrote in message
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posted ;
" Why not give it a go. Maybe it will work.

My old gardener told me that cuttings will not last
as their root systems are inferior.

I've got two roses grown from cuttings - not
graftings - and both are spectacular.
A few questions from a novice ;
Do you use a root stimulant such as " Rootone "
Do you have a soil/medium soley for cuttings
Do you keep the soil moist and the cutting in full sun ? How
about fertilizer -Dilute ?
Thanks , Don,..

I use liquid seaweed diluted in water. My preferred soil is Schultz
Professional Grow Mix (that might not be the exact title) but
unfortunately I can't find it locally - a seasonal problem (and this
is south central TX, for Pete's sake!) so I'm using a Miracle Gro soil
in the orange bag. I'll find out if that works in a few weeks.

Soil should definitely stay moist but not wet. I use the black
nursery pots that have drainage holes. Depending on the weather, I
water the soil daily. This time I'm also using the moisture beads. I
keep a spray bottle of water nearby and spritz the cuttings at least
once per day. I keep the pots under a tree in a location that gets
morning sun, but dabbled shade the rest of the day.

I keep up that process even after the cuttings root and start
producing new leaves. I don't transplant the cuttings until they've
been growing for a few months.

Gail
near San Antonio TX Zone 8

"Gail Futoran" wrote in message
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I use liquid seaweed diluted in water. My preferred soil is Schultz
Professional Grow Mix (that might not be the exact title) but
unfortunately I can't find it locally - a seasonal problem (and this
is south central TX, for Pete's sake!) so I'm using a Miracle Gro
soil in the orange bag. I'll find out if that works in a few weeks.

Soil should definitely stay moist but not wet. I use the black
nursery pots that have drainage holes. Depending on the weather, I
water the soil daily. This time I'm also using the moisture beads.
I keep a spray bottle of water nearby and spritz the cuttings at
least once per day. I keep the pots under a tree in a location that
gets morning sun, but dabbled shade the rest of the day.

I keep up that process even after the cuttings root and start
producing new leaves. I don't transplant the cuttings until they've
been growing for a few months.

Gail
near San Antonio TX Zone 8

Update: Two of the old garden rose cuttings (Village Maid aka
Centifolia Variegata and other names) have new leaf growth. That
seems a bit quick for root development (about one week) but I did take
longish stems which might be supporting the leaf growth.

One cutting - a different OGR - is showing signs of iron deficiency,
yellowing leaves. I added some powdered TX greensand, which is an
iron source, and hope that works. I've read that particular rose -
Ferdinand Pichard - is one of the harder ones to propagate so I won't
be too surprised if the cutting doesn't make it.

Gail

Gail Futoran wrote:
"Gail Futoran" wrote in message
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I use liquid seaweed diluted in water. My preferred soil is Schultz
Professional Grow Mix (that might not be the exact title) but
unfortunately I can't find it locally - a seasonal problem (and this
is south central TX, for Pete's sake!) so I'm using a Miracle Gro
soil in the orange bag. I'll find out if that works in a few weeks.

Soil should definitely stay moist but not wet. I use the black
nursery pots that have drainage holes. Depending on the weather, I
water the soil daily. This time I'm also using the moisture beads.
I keep a spray bottle of water nearby and spritz the cuttings at
least once per day. I keep the pots under a tree in a location that
gets morning sun, but dabbled shade the rest of the day.

I keep up that process even after the cuttings root and start
producing new leaves. I don't transplant the cuttings until they've
been growing for a few months.

Gail
near San Antonio TX Zone 8

Update: Two of the old garden rose cuttings (Village Maid aka
Centifolia Variegata and other names) have new leaf growth. That
seems a bit quick for root development (about one week) but I did take
longish stems which might be supporting the leaf growth.

One cutting - a different OGR - is showing signs of iron deficiency,
yellowing leaves. I added some powdered TX greensand, which is an
iron source, and hope that works. I've read that particular rose -
Ferdinand Pichard - is one of the harder ones to propagate so I won't
be too surprised if the cutting doesn't make it.

Gail



After IKE our roses have all started to bloom - survival I suppose.

Reds, yellows, and purple - but the thorn less yellow is just green - out of season.

Finally got a new news feed - still having glitches - Consolidated
shut down without notice or reduction in cost - and all, not just
the audio and video groups. Such is life.

Hope this gets out. Still experimenting.

Martin

"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message
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After IKE our roses have all started to bloom - survival I suppose.

Reds, yellows, and purple - but the thorn less yellow is just
green - out of season.

Finally got a new news feed - still having glitches - Consolidated
shut down without notice or reduction in cost - and all, not just
the audio and video groups. Such is life.

Hope this gets out. Still experimenting.

Martin

Your post came through just fine. I'm glad your roses are coming back
post-Ike.

Gail

Gail Futoran wrote:
"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message
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After IKE our roses have all started to bloom - survival I suppose.

Reds, yellows, and purple - but the thorn less yellow is just
green - out of season.

Finally got a new news feed - still having glitches - Consolidated
shut down without notice or reduction in cost - and all, not just
the audio and video groups. Such is life.

Hope this gets out. Still experimenting.

Martin

Your post came through just fine. I'm glad your roses are coming back
post-Ike.

Gail


Thanks Gail

And all - if your ISP is dumping you - save this in a folder for future times.

http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

I'm using the news feeds from this company. Don't use the tool - but they have one.

Best to all,

Martin

"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message
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Gail Futoran wrote:
"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message
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After IKE our roses have all started to bloom - survival I
suppose.

Reds, yellows, and purple - but the thorn less yellow is just
green - out of season.

Finally got a new news feed - still having glitches - Consolidated
shut down without notice or reduction in cost - and all, not just
the audio and video groups. Such is life.

Hope this gets out. Still experimenting.

Martin

Your post came through just fine. I'm glad your roses are coming
back post-Ike.

Gail
Thanks Gail

And all - if your ISP is dumping you - save this in a folder for
future times.

http://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

I'm using the news feeds from this company. Don't use the tool -
but they have one.

Best to all,

Martin

Thanks for the link. I'm collecting those (links) in case my ISP does
something silly like dumping newsgroups.

Gail

I use the black nursery pots that accept arising holes. Depending on the weather, I water the clay daily. This time I'm as well application the damp beads. I keep a aerosol canteen of baptize adjacent and flow the cuttings at least once per day.

Hi Bob
I have a garden full of roses about 50+ and still growing most of my roses have come from cuttings.I must admitt it took me some time to get them to strike but now they all strike readily but must be kept moist to have success. I recently did a free online course that i found extremely helpful and it is easy to understand here is the link that i found for it if you are interested
Free Courses I hope this has been helpful to you