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Hi all, I finally have some swelling buds here in Maryland 6b and most of
the damage I incurred was from planting the last ones too high for last
winter. We're having so much rain things are shooting up like rockets. Guess
I'll be fungiciding this weekend. All in all I think it's going to be very
pretty here soon.
I'm excited to say I was in the Memphis Botanical Gardens last Saturday and
all roses and Irises were blooming beautifully there. The rose selections
were lovely but they didn't bother to keep the names on so many of them I
was disappointed. I had the impression they were short of funds or staff.


In Anticipation,
Jane

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On Fri, 09 May 2003 03:39:20 GMT, "Jane"
wrote:

Hi all, I finally have some swelling buds here in Maryland 6b

Jane, I really have lost all perspective on the differences between NC
and MD climates and growing seasons. My first flushes are finished,
some roses are beginning their second, and my bare roots are budding
and showing some color.

BTW--the mosquitos have been out for at least two weeks. It's all a
trade off!






In Anticipation,
Jane

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Thanks for sharing that Shiva...especially about hte mosquitoes (grin). I'd
love to see picture!
Jane
"Shiva" wrote in message
news:ab668d46207d2c24d753eed8680597c2@TeraNews...
On Fri, 09 May 2003 03:39:20 GMT, "Jane"
wrote:

Hi all, I finally have some swelling buds here in Maryland 6b

Jane, I really have lost all perspective on the differences between NC
and MD climates and growing seasons. My first flushes are finished,
some roses are beginning their second, and my bare roots are budding
and showing some color.

BTW--the mosquitos have been out for at least two weeks. It's all a
trade off!






In Anticipation,
Jane

buds are starting to swell
 

Hi Henry, do you ever go to DR Snell Nursery off rte 70 in Mt.Airy? Loads of
good selections of roses. My local Thanksgiving Farms in Buckeystown is
filled with exotic other things, but no roses yet.
Do you have pictures?
Jane
"Henry" wrote in message
. ..
Jane wrote:
Hi all, I finally have some swelling buds here in Maryland 6b and most
of
the damage I incurred was from planting the last ones too high for last
winter. We're having so much rain things are shooting up like rockets.
Guess
I'll be fungiciding this weekend. All in all I think it's going to be
very
pretty here soon.

Most of my roses are also in the bud stage although the rugosa seedlings
are in bloom (first bloom on Wednesday). Blanc Double de Coubert is
just about to pop. Only a few aphids so far, usually there are swarms
of them by now.

--
Henry
Gaithersburg, MD

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Jane wrote:
Hi Henry, do you ever go to DR Snell Nursery off rte 70 in Mt.Airy? Loads of
good selections of roses. My local Thanksgiving Farms in Buckeystown is
filled with exotic other things, but no roses yet.
Do you have pictures?

I bought a few roses at Dr. Snell last year. Nice place. I haven't
been there yet this year. We were at Thanksgiving Farms yesterday for
my wife's annual Mother's Day spree. ;-)

Today we stopped at Johnson's, right by you. Although everything is
overpriced, I bought Pat Austin (for which I have to blame Shiva). I
planted that and New Dawn (a gift from someone at work) this afternoon.

--
Henry

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On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:50:59 -0400, Henry
wrote:

I bought Pat Austin (for which I have to blame Shiva).

I was marveling at this rose today. Wonderful color gradations and as
it ages, even some blushing at the outer petal edges. I will be
interested to know what you think of the scent. And how you would
characterize it!






-- I planted that and New Dawn (a gift from someone at work) this afternoon.

You must be well liked at work! I planted my New Dawn last fall as a
small potted grafted rose. It was among the last to bloom, is just now
half full of buds with perhaps 10-15 blooms. What I love about it--the
dainty, dark green, slightly rounded leaves, the floriferousness, and
the medium rosy scent. There is an example of this rose that grows on
the grounds of the NC Governor's Mansion, so I had occasion to watch
its habits for ten years or so. Although on the north side of the
building and fairly severely pruned every year, it was the first thing
to bloom in the spring and the last to bloom each fall, sometimes
giving blossoms as late as December. I liked it so much I could not
believe my luck the day I looked down and saw the metal J&P tag at the
base! This rose gets big if you let it, but does quite well if you
don't. Up in Maryland your mileage may indeed vary. I think this was
the first patented rose?

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Shiva wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2003 21:50:59 -0400, Henry wrote:
I bought Pat Austin (for which I have to blame Shiva).

I was marveling at this rose today. Wonderful color gradations and as
it ages, even some blushing at the outer petal edges. I will be
interested to know what you think of the scent. And how you would
characterize it!

They had both Pat Austin and Jude the Obscure (among others) but I
decided I'd go with this one for now. After all, it's Mother's Day so I
couldn't buy too much for myself. Jude is still on my list. Johnson's
is overpriced so even at 20% off it was $32 but it's a lovely, large,
healthy plant so I guess it's worth it. I'll let you know how it does
and how I like it. My wife's not sure about the mix of colors I've got
but I don't care. I don't think she will, either, when they are all
blooming. I'll mix perennials around the them to fill in and add to the
riot of color.

-- I planted that and New Dawn (a gift from someone at work) this afternoon.

You must be well liked at work! I planted my New Dawn last fall as a
small potted grafted rose. It was among the last to bloom, is just now
half full of buds with perhaps 10-15 blooms. What I love about it--the
dainty, dark green, slightly rounded leaves, the floriferousness, and
the medium rosy scent. There is an example of this rose that grows on
the grounds of the NC Governor's Mansion, so I had occasion to watch
its habits for ten years or so. Although on the north side of the
building and fairly severely pruned every year, it was the first thing
to bloom in the spring and the last to bloom each fall, sometimes
giving blossoms as late as December. I liked it so much I could not
believe my luck the day I looked down and saw the metal J&P tag at the
base! This rose gets big if you let it, but does quite well if you
don't. Up in Maryland your mileage may indeed vary. I think this was
the first patented rose?

The New Dawn was rooted by a friend so will be growing on it's own
roots. Don't know what difference that might make. I'm going to grow
it along my front fence (from the outside). I currently have four roses
on the inside (Linda Campbell, Johann Strauss, Auguste Renoir, and
Barbara Bush) plus those growing up the arbor at the end of the walk (at
the gate)(Zephirine Drouhin, Sombreuil, and Madame Isaac Pereire). Now
with these two outside, I'm really running out of space up front. The
south side of the gate just doesn't get enough sun. There's a very
large buddleia that may have to go. I think it will give me room for
two or three more...

--
Henry

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Jane wrote:
Do you have pictures?

The latest are here (05/11/2003):
http://www.dotrose.com/whatsinbloom/

--
Henry

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Oooh! Makes me wish I was a mother!
Where's Johnson's?
Jane
"Henry" wrote in message
. ..
Jane wrote:
Hi Henry, do you ever go to DR Snell Nursery off rte 70 in Mt.Airy?
Loads of
good selections of roses. My local Thanksgiving Farms in Buckeystown is
filled with exotic other things, but no roses yet.
Do you have pictures?

I bought a few roses at Dr. Snell last year. Nice place. I haven't
been there yet this year. We were at Thanksgiving Farms yesterday for
my wife's annual Mother's Day spree. ;-)

Today we stopped at Johnson's, right by you. Although everything is
overpriced, I bought Pat Austin (for which I have to blame Shiva). I
planted that and New Dawn (a gift from someone at work) this afternoon.

--
Henry

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On 12 May 2003 07:23:36 -0700, (J. Del Col)
wrote:

(Shiva) wrote in message news:ab668d46207d2c24d753eed8680597c2@TeraNews.. .
On Fri, 09 May 2003 03:39:20 GMT, "Jane"
wrote:

Hi all, I finally have some swelling buds here in Maryland 6b

Jane, I really have lost all perspective on the differences between NC
and MD climates and growing seasons. My first flushes are finished,
some roses are beginning their second, and my bare roots are budding
and showing some color.

BTW--the mosquitos have been out for at least two weeks. It's all a
trade off!


R.primula opened the season here in Philippi, WV about April 1. A
few days later R. xanthina started blooming. Both are finished now,
but R. moyesii, Harison's Yellow and R. parviflora have begun blooming.
Unfortunately, high winds yesterday and today have stripped petals off many blossoms.



Hmm, so you are about on par with us. I would have thought you were
cooler there, and so a bit behind. I assume you are in the mountains,
or perhaps in a nice valley between mountains? I was in the New River
Valley last spring, and have never seen anything so beautiful this far
east. It was in VA but very close to TN and WV.

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On Sun, 11 May 2003 23:37:55 -0400, Henry
wrote:

They had both Pat Austin and Jude the Obscure (among others) but I
decided I'd go with this one for now. After all, it's Mother's Day so I
couldn't buy too much for myself. Jude is still on my list. Johnson's
is overpriced so even at 20% off it was $32 but it's a lovely, large,
healthy plant so I guess it's worth it.


Sometimes the sheer ease of picking up a big healthy specimen of a
rose you really want at a pricey local garden center is worth the
extra money. My Pat Austin is a Muncy's ownroot, and I do recommend
Ken and Suzie Muncy for ownroot roses. They will not ship to
California, but they will ship to you. There is a website:

http://www.muncyrose.com/

If you look, remember that the price includes shipping. The one-gallon
ownroot of Jude the Obscure is $16.95. (You can also get a
three-gallon grafted Jude for $26.95 total, including shipping.) The
roses come packed kind of funky but are always intact and, best of
all, they take off like weeds! I planted Pat Austin, Golden
Celebration, Tradescant, and three Abraham Darbys last fall (not a
really good idea here as we can have nippy winters) and they came
through GREAT despite just a few oak leaves for insulation. And they
were so small! Each has produced 10-15 roses so far, that's how much
they have grown!

He has a nice list of Austins, Henry! Check our Happy Child!


I'll let you know how it does
and how I like it. My wife's not sure about the mix of colors I've got
but I don't care. I don't think she will, either, when they are all
blooming.

You are a smart man! The odd colored roses add interest. There is
nothing more boring to me than a fistfull of pastel pink and white
roses. I took a bouquet to a neighbor that had some Pat Austin,
(coppery) plus Tradescant (gorgeous deep velvety wine) Jude the
Obscure (buttery) and Abraham Darby--most gorgeous handful of roses I
have seen in a long time.

Have you seen Distant Drums? Speaking of unusual? I have four. It is
the first rose I have four of. I am truly smitten with this rose.
Fragrant, too.





The New Dawn was rooted by a friend so will be growing on it's own
roots. Don't know what difference that might make.

I would love to hear progress reports. From what I hear it is hard to
find a more vigorous rose, so I imagine it is a perfect one to grow on
its own roots.



I'm going to grow
it along my front fence (from the outside).

MIne has the entire end of the new rectangulat bed--I left it five
feet on each side, and it has a chainlink fence to grow on. On one
side, Barbra Streisand, at the juncture of the side fence, on the
other, Blue Nile, at the other juncture. Framing this, viewed from the
end of the bed, is Joseph's Coat, Climbing Rainbow's End (when I get
mine) and Golden Celbration and Pat Austin and Abe Darby! So its
Orange, yellow, purple, pink, lavendar, pink (Paul Neyron, can't
forget him) Orange-pink (Darby) golden yellow, Orange! Then there are
Simply Marvelous, Royal Amethyst, and Outta the Blue, ranging from
grapey mauve to deep purply-something, respectively. My garden is
probably your wife's idea of a bad dream! Contrast, CONTRAST, I love
contrast! I don't know why, it just does it for me.


I currently have four roses
on the inside (Linda Campbell, Johann Strauss, Auguste Renoir, and
Barbara Bush)

Of these I have only seen Barbara Bush, which is such a good,
floriferous rose in a friend's garden that I am tempted to buy it,
even though it has no scent to my nose. How do you like it?



plus those growing up the arbor at the end of the walk (at
the gate)(Zephirine Drouhin, Sombreuil, and Madame Isaac Pereire). Now
with these two outside, I'm really running out of space up front. The
south side of the gate just doesn't get enough sun. There's a very
large buddleia that may have to go.

Oh, yes ... the .... Buddleia ... must ... GO! ;0)

I think it will give me room for
two or three more...

Yippee! More roses!




--
Henry

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Jane wrote:
Oooh! Makes me wish I was a mother!
Where's Johnson's?

Oops. I went back and checked and it's Kate Kaercher that's near
Johnson's, not you. It's at the intersection of Rt. 28 and Quince
Orchard Road in Gaithersburg. They do have a nice selection.

--
Henry

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On Mon, 12 May 2003 15:14:47 GMT, (Shiva) wrote:

On Sun, 11 May 2003 23:37:55 -0400, Henry
wrote:

They had both Pat Austin and Jude the Obscure (among others) but I
decided I'd go with this one for now. After all, it's Mother's Day so I
couldn't buy too much for myself. Jude is still on my list. Johnson's
is overpriced so even at 20% off it was $32 but it's a lovely, large,
healthy plant so I guess it's worth it.


Sometimes the sheer ease of picking up a big healthy specimen of a
rose you really want at a pricey local garden center is worth the
extra money. My Pat Austin is a Muncy's ownroot, and I do recommend
Ken and Suzie Muncy for ownroot roses. They will not ship to
California, but they will ship to you. There is a website:

http://www.muncyrose.com/

If you look, remember that the price includes shipping. The one-gallon
ownroot of Jude the Obscure is $16.95. (You can also get a
three-gallon grafted Jude for $26.95 total, including shipping.) The
roses come packed kind of funky but are always intact and, best of
all, they take off like weeds! I planted Pat Austin, Golden
Celebration, Tradescant, and three Abraham Darbys last fall (not a
really good idea here as we can have nippy winters) and they came
through GREAT despite just a few oak leaves for insulation. And they
were so small! Each has produced 10-15 roses so far, that's how much
they have grown!

He has a nice list of Austins, Henry! Check our Happy Child!

One thing worth noting is that Muncy's roses are all fortuniana
rootstock. This means that for those of us in zone 6b and north,
special care has to be taken with winter care. For a long time, it was
thought that this rootstock really didn't do well here in Nashville.
Now it turns out that it does just fine, we just have to do the high
mulch and leaf mounding that those in zones 5 and 4 have to do
routinely, something that we normally don't have to worry too much
about. Plus, there are another couple of minor considerations as well.
Someone wrote an article in the local rose society newsletter about
growing them as an experiment and he had some good success.

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dave weil writes:

One thing worth noting is that Muncy's roses are all fortuniana
rootstock.

He sells both ownroot and grafted.
From his website:
"We carry a line of Hybrid Teas, Floribunda and OGR's. We are most excited
about our new line of David Austin roses. We will be offering them as well as
all our roses either own root or grafted on Fortuniana. All our roses a
guaranteed virus free and healthy.".
http://www.muncyrose.com/frame.html
Julie

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On 12 May 2003 17:13:07 GMT, (Unique Too) wrote:

dave weil writes:

One thing worth noting is that Muncy's roses are all fortuniana
rootstock.

He sells both ownroot and grafted.
From his website:
"We carry a line of Hybrid Teas, Floribunda and OGR's. We are most excited
about our new line of David Austin roses. We will be offering them as well as
all our roses either own root or grafted on Fortuniana. All our roses a
guaranteed virus free and healthy.".
http://www.muncyrose.com/frame.html
Julie

Sorry, I only saw this:

We graft onto Fortuaniana root stock. This root stock is mainly for
warm parts of the country but will grow VERY well in the north with
good winter protection.

Didn't know they did own root as well...

Thanks for the correction...

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Shiva wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2003 23:37:55 -0400, Henry
wrote:

My Pat Austin is a Muncy's ownroot, and I do recommend
Ken and Suzie Muncy for ownroot roses. They will not ship to
California, but they will ship to you. There is a website:

http://www.muncyrose.com/

I'll have to check them out. Thanks.

Have you seen Distant Drums? Speaking of unusual? I have four. It is
the first rose I have four of. I am truly smitten with this rose.
Fragrant, too.

Damn. Pardon me but there's nothing else to say. My list grows faster
than I can keep up with and I'm running out of space here. I'm now
starting to plan details for the 40' by 50' space that's being prepared
in Pennsylvania. It will have to be roses that can take care of
themselves a bit, which makes it harder to plan. Naturally I'll want
repeat bloom (with possible exceptions) and definately fragrance (to me,
a rose without fragrance is half a rose at best). One nice thing is
that my father is up there spraying his fruit trees off and on all
spring and summer so spraying for blackspot won't be much of an issue.

Lots of space but so many to chose from. I really like bourbon and
portland roses and would like to use a few. Anyone care to comment on
the hardiness of Rose de Rescht, Rose du Roi, Louise Odier, Reine
Victoria, Mme. Pierre Oger, Souvenir de la Malmaison, or Mme. Isaac
Pereire? I'd like to combine some of them with some Noisettes and
various Austins. Are there any China roses that I could grow that far
north (zone 6)? Of course, all this is still very much in the dreaming
stage so the whole idea could change drastically in the next four
months. I'm getting the space ready to plant next spring (although some
things may go in this fall).

I currently have four roses on the inside (Linda Campbell,
Johann Strauss, Auguste Renoir, and Barbara Bush)

Of these I have only seen Barbara Bush, which is such a good,
floriferous rose in a friend's garden that I am tempted to buy it,
even though it has no scent to my nose. How do you like it?

I like it a lot but so does black spot. It's hard to keep healthy. The
blooms are large, beautiful and fragrant (if less so than some). They
don't age particularly well for me, getting spotty. Of course, if I
sprayed more it would help. Serious thorns on this rose, also.

--
Henry

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portland roses and would like to use a few. Anyone care to comment on
the hardiness of Rose de Rescht,

Spots. but very vigorous. Self recovery.

Rose du Roi,

Louise Odier,

This is one tough rose.
I planted it as a twiglet last may.
It is now a 5'x7' monster that
even the rabbits fear to approach.
It is absolutely smothered w/ hundreds of
blooms right now. must take picture.
Spots but self recovers.

Reine
Victoria, Mme. Pierre Oger, Souvenir de la Malmaison, or Mme. Isaac
Pereire? I'd like to combine some of them with some Noisettes and
various Austins.

Very few Noisettes can deal w/ Z6 cold.
I grow a Alfred Carriere in a very protected
location but even then it has serious die back.

Are there any China roses that I could grow that far
north (zone 6)?

Hermosa is a tough Chinese rose you could try.
Also Dave grows Old Blush in Z6. I'm trying
it myself.

Of course, all this is still very much in the dreaming
stage so the whole idea could change drastically in the next four
months. I'm getting the space ready to plant next spring (although some
things may go in this fall).

I've found that summer is a good time to dig and amend the soil
to get it ready for fall. I've also done some summer planting
w/ a white cloth solar topi.

--
Theo in Zone 5
Kansas City

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"Theo Asir" wrote in message
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Very few Noisettes can deal w/ Z6 cold.
I grow a Alfred Carriere in a very protected
location but even then it has serious die back.

Sorry to hijack another thread, but Theo, tell
me about your Mme. Alfred experience. How
much protection, dieback, etc..?


Laura -- I apologize if we have talked about this
before. I am getting deja vu.

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Shiva wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2003 23:37:55 -0400, Henry wrote:

I currently have four roses
on the inside (Linda Campbell, Johann Strauss, Auguste Renoir, and
Barbara Bush)

Of these I have only seen Barbara Bush, which is such a good,
floriferous rose in a friend's garden that I am tempted to buy it,
even though it has no scent to my nose. How do you like it?

I should say that of those four, I like Linda Campbell (Moore, 1990) the
least. It's a pretty color (bright red) but has no scent and for a
rugosa is fairly susceptible to blackspot. It doesn't seem to be bad
enough to do any real harm but rugosas are usually so immune that it
seems bad by comparison. It also wants to be bigger than the space it
is in. Given a spot in the middle of a lawn and allowed to grow it
would be an impressive sight in full bloom. The individual flowers are
really not much to look at but it certainly makes a nice mass of red and
it blooms all summer long. This was the first rose I planted and if I
had it to do over, I'd probably get something else.

The other two were put in last summer (from Dr. Snell's nursery near Mt.
Airy, MD).

Johann Strauss (Meilland, 1994) is an interesting color, blush or light
salmon with yellower tones towards the center. Good fragrance. I'll
take a picture when it blooms. Our drought last summer hit this rose a
bit and it's starting the year smaller than it might have but it's
healthy enough and growing strongly.

Auguste Renoir (Meilland, 1993) is rosy pink and really profuse. It is
larger that JS and has a good number of buds. The fragrance from this
is stronger than JS, also. Both of these seem to be fairly resistant to
disease. I'm very happy with them and recommend them if you want those
colors.

AR replaced a Mr. Lincoln that never did all that well except to say
that it was seven feet tall. It was one or two canes with huge flowers
way up top. They are beautiful flowers but kind of hard to enjoy from
below. I moved it to the other end of the yard (the other area with
enough sun for roses) but it doesn't seem to have made it. I'm not
terribly upset about that, I guess.

--
Henry

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"R & L Porter" wrote in message
...

"Theo Asir" wrote in message
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Very few Noisettes can deal w/ Z6 cold.
I grow a Alfred Carriere in a very protected
location but even then it has serious die back.

Sorry to hijack another thread, but Theo, tell
me about your Mme. Alfred experience. How
much protection, dieback, etc..?

I planted Mme. Alfred C. & Sombreuil last
year in july after all our exchanges.

Som. died in me. Twice.
Don't know what I'm doing wrong.

But AC lived and grew to a respectable 4'.
Its inside my back yard fencing. This particular
area saw -13F tempretures this year. Its against
a wooden fence that cuts down the cold winds a bit.
I did not give it any protection on the reasoning
that nothing else in my garden was getting
any protection and I wanted merit to prevail.

This March when everything else started growing again
I noticed only 2 of AC's canes showed signs of life.
The other three canes gradually blackened and fell away.
The two canes that survived were strapped to the wood fence.
They had about 6" of tip damage.

Guess I need to strap all canes to the fence.
It has just about finished its first flush
and there are about 4 georgeous basals
bursting from it.

--
Theo in Zone 5
Kansas City




Laura -- I apologize if we have talked about this
before. I am getting deja vu.

That OK. This is my spring retual anyway.
Counting the losses. Learning what works
and tinkering tinkering tinkering...

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Thanks Henry I'm down that way every Friday...goody goody...I thank you!

"Henry" wrote in message
. uu.net...
Jane wrote:
Oooh! Makes me wish I was a mother!
Where's Johnson's?

Oops. I went back and checked and it's Kate Kaercher that's near
Johnson's, not you. It's at the intersection of Rt. 28 and Quince
Orchard Road in Gaithersburg. They do have a nice selection.

--
Henry

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Thanks Henry, You have a nice site.Very pretty garden shots. Nice work. I
imagine those little girls are yours too. How sweet. I love the "What's in
Bloom" format. I might try to make one this summer. I'm so not plugged in
it's pathetic..but I can learn.
Jane

"Henry" wrote in message
. ..
Jane wrote:
Do you have pictures?

The latest are here (05/11/2003):
http://www.dotrose.com/whatsinbloom/

--
Henry

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On 12 May 2003 15:27:14 -0700, (J. Del Col)
wrote:


We are on a hill overlooking the Tygart Valley River. That probably helps a
bit as far as the microclimate goes.

Makes sense.

BTW. That R. parviflora I mentioned is actually R. centifolia parvifolia.
I keep thinking it is parviflora because of its small garnet flowers.

Is R. centifolia parvifolia a once-bloomer? I love garnet.



J. Del Col

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On Mon, 12 May 2003 14:06:43 -0400, Henry
wrote:

I said:

Have you seen Distant Drums? Speaking of unusual? I have four. It is
the first rose I have four of. I am truly smitten with this rose.
Fragrant, too.

Then Henry said:

Damn. Pardon me but there's nothing else to say. My list grows faster
than I can keep up with and I'm running out of space here. I'm now
starting to plan details for the 40' by 50' space that's being prepared
in Pennsylvania. It will have to be roses that can take care of
themselves a bit, which makes it harder to plan.

Oh, boy, do you need Distant Drums! It is a Griffith Buck rose, and so
bred to take cold, in case you have some harsh winters! Peachy-tan in
the center, lavender/mauve on the outside, excellent substance, full
and shrubby, so far very floriferous. Very fragrant! Delicious!


Naturally I'll want
repeat bloom (with possible exceptions) and definately fragrance (to me,
a rose without fragrance is half a rose at best). One nice thing is
that my father is up there spraying his fruit trees off and on all
spring and summer so spraying for blackspot won't be much of an issue.


Now this is nice.

l,

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Hate to rain on your parade Shiva.
but there is one caveat attached to Distant D.

It is not a particularly vigorous rose on
its own roots. To get any sort of production
it has to be grafted and grafts I'd rate as
marginally hardy in Z5.

--
Theo in Zone 5
Kansas City


"Shiva" wrote in message
news:4c3bc6eab75e8efe0a338b2c34c9a918@TeraNews...
On Mon, 12 May 2003 14:06:43 -0400, Henry
wrote:

I said:

Have you seen Distant Drums? Speaking of unusual? I have four. It is
the first rose I have four of. I am truly smitten with this rose.
Fragrant, too.

Then Henry said:

Damn. Pardon me but there's nothing else to say. My list grows faster
than I can keep up with and I'm running out of space here. I'm now
starting to plan details for the 40' by 50' space that's being prepared
in Pennsylvania. It will have to be roses that can take care of
themselves a bit, which makes it harder to plan.

Oh, boy, do you need Distant Drums! It is a Griffith Buck rose, and so
bred to take cold, in case you have some harsh winters! Peachy-tan in
the center, lavender/mauve on the outside, excellent substance, full
and shrubby, so far very floriferous. Very fragrant! Delicious!


Naturally I'll want
repeat bloom (with possible exceptions) and definately fragrance (to me,
a rose without fragrance is half a rose at best). One nice thing is
that my father is up there spraying his fruit trees off and on all
spring and summer so spraying for blackspot won't be much of an issue.


Now this is nice.

l,