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Fragrance of Gold Medal
Granted that fragrance varies from region to region, nose to nose, day to day and even hour to hour if we are to believe all we hear, Gold Medal is the most fragrant rose in my garden except Granada. the scent is "rosy," not fruity like Mr. Lincoln and some of the Austins such as Jude the Obscure. Good yellow roses are hard to find among the modern roses. This is a good rose for those who use preventive measures against fungal disease and insect damage, even here in the swamps of Zone 7 NC. It is a grandiflora, so blooms in sprays. When I pinched the side buds it made huge central blooms. Although the center could be higher, the form is still very nice. There is the faintest blush on the oustide of the petals and the edges. It is a great cutting rose and a fair garden rose for those who want great fragrance and good vigor in a yellow modern rose. |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
In 235b089a34e651633f9df49dc5079ecb@TeraNews Shiva wrote:
Although the center could be higher, the form is still very nice. There is the faintest blush on the oustide of the petals and the edges. It is a great cutting rose and a fair garden rose for those who want great fragrance and good vigor in a yellow modern rose. I agree Shiva. There hasn't been a good new pure yellow HT in decades. I gave up after trying Gina Lollobrigida and Midas Touch. Nowadays I settle for Elina (a nice creamy yellow bordering on white) and Dame Elisabeth Murdoch (yellow edged with melon pink). I wouldn't call Gold Medal pure yellow, since the edges can be tinged with bronze in a warm climate. Either way it's a beautiful rose and the fragrance is OK. One of these years I'll try St Patrick (if it has fragrance) and Valencia. |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
Shiva wrote: Granted that fragrance varies from region to region, nose to nose, day to day and even hour to hour if we are to believe all we hear, Gold Medal is the most fragrant rose in my garden except Granada. the scent is "rosy," not fruity like Mr. Lincoln and some of the Austins such as Jude the Obscure. Good yellow roses are hard to find among the modern roses. This is a good rose for those who use preventive measures against fungal disease and insect damage, even here in the swamps of Zone 7 NC. It is a grandiflora, so blooms in sprays. When I pinched the side buds it made huge central blooms. Although the center could be higher, the form is still very nice. There is the faintest blush on the oustide of the petals and the edges. It is a great cutting rose and a fair garden rose for those who want great fragrance and good vigor in a yellow modern rose. You forgot "fades terribly when left on the bush." I dug mine up and gave it away this spring because I didn't want a cream colored rose after two days. J. |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
On 25 May 2003 01:05:14 GMT, Daniel Hanna
wrote: I wouldn't call Gold Medal pure yellow, since the edges can be tinged with bronze in a warm climate. [...] Bronze! The color variations between here and there fascinate me. One of these years I'll try St Patrick (if it has fragrance) and Valencia. St. Patrick has no fragrance and is very GREEN until fairly well open. Valencia is not yellow to my eye, but peachy. Beautiful, though. |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
On Sun, 25 May 2003 03:37:16 GMT, "Jeffrey J. Potoff"
wrote: You forgot "fades terribly when left on the bush." I dug mine up and gave it away this spring because I didn't want a cream colored rose after two days. You know what, Jeffrey? Mine never turn any shade of "cream" at all. They stay yellow until they shatter or I deadhead. Granted, I cut fully half the blooms this rose produces for the table--mine or others. Do you require of your roses a static color for a certain number of days? I find most of mine change from the minute they bud until the minute they shatter. This is one of the things I love about roses and other living things--a certain dynamic quality. Anything more static and I might just as well have artificial. J. |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
Shiva wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2003 03:37:16 GMT, "Jeffrey J. Potoff" wrote: You forgot "fades terribly when left on the bush." I dug mine up and gave it away this spring because I didn't want a cream colored rose after two days. You know what, Jeffrey? Mine never turn any shade of "cream" at all. They stay yellow until they shatter or I deadhead. Granted, I cut fully half the blooms this rose produces for the table--mine or others. I don't cut many. If I bring them inside, they hold their color. Leave them on the bush and the fade away. Since I grow roses for how they look outside, on the bush, Gold Medal is not a useful plant for me. Do you require of your roses a static color for a certain number of days? I require that they look decent for a certain number of days and two isn't it. Fading or changing to another decent color combination is fine (as most of my roses do), but fading to something that looks like crap isn't. J. |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
On Sun, 25 May 2003 23:10:10 GMT, "Jeffrey J. Potoff"
wrote: I don't cut many. If I bring them inside, they hold their color. Leave them on the bush and the fade away. Well there's the difference, then. Perhaps we can agree that Gold Medal makes a wonderful cutting rose, if not the best garden rose in all areas. By the way, where are you? I require that they look decent for a certain number of days and two isn't it. Fading or changing to another decent color combination is fine (as most of my roses do), but fading to something that looks like crap isn't. Ahh. "Something that looks like crap." Herein lies the purely subjective element. Some people love cream colored roses, albeit not usually on plants that begin with yellow blooms. I think the color is why I cannot stand Peace. Or is it the constant split centers, the stuffed-in look of the petals, the tight quilling, the complete lack of scent. It's hard to tell. J. |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
Valencia. St. Patrick has no fragrance and is very GREEN until fairly well open. Valencia is not yellow to my eye, but peachy. Beautiful, though. Beg to differ my grafted has a strong tea scent. It is stinking up my entire office as we speak with just three blooms. -- Theo in Zone 5 Kansas City |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
On Tue, 27 May 2003 14:35:21 GMT, "Theo Asir"
wrote: Valencia. St. Patrick has no fragrance and is very GREEN until fairly well open. Valencia is not yellow to my eye, but peachy. Beautiful, though. Beg to differ my grafted has a strong tea scent. It is stinking up my entire office as we speak with just three blooms. No WAY! St. Patrick? Hmm. I might just need this one after all. Thanks, Theo. -- Theo in Zone 5 Kansas City |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
St. Patrick has no fragrance and is very GREEN until fairly well open.
Valencia is not yellow to my eye, but peachy. Beautiful, though. Beg to differ my grafted has a strong tea scent. It is stinking up my entire office as we speak with just three blooms. No WAY! St. Patrick? Hmm. I might just need this one after all. Thanks, Theo. I always get this reaction. Everyone is convinced that St Patrick has no scent. Daniel Hanna tried to tell me that last year. It does not have an overpowering scent but boy get it into any enclosed space and it just goes on pumping out scent for days. -- Theo in Zone 5 Kansas City |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
I'm an Old Garden rose hag, so I think my old roses smell far, far
better than moderns, and just now I'm especially loving Ispahan, Mme Pierre Oger, Alchymist, and Roseraie de L'Hay, which though fast of its scent is magnificent at close range. I have about twenty others out too, including my lovely huge Mme Alfred Carriere, but though it's scented it's not releasing well in this cool May. My Gertrude Jekylls are my pick of modern roses for scent. -- Jane Lumley |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
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I don't cut many. If I bring them inside, they hold their color. Leave them on the bush and the fade away. Since I grow roses for how they look outside, on the bush, Gold Medal is not a useful plant for me. Gold Medal is useful as all hell here. Maybe you're not giving it enough water. m -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
lms wrote: In article , says... I don't cut many. If I bring them inside, they hold their color. Leave them on the bush and the fade away. Since I grow roses for how they look outside, on the bush, Gold Medal is not a useful plant for me. Gold Medal is useful as all hell here. Maybe you're not giving it enough water. It got plenty of water. I don't like the color it fades to. I'm allowed to have an opinion on what colors I like, right? Well, IN MY OPINION, Gold Medal isn't that great of a rose. I dug mine up this spring and replaced it with Fragrant Plum. J. |
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Fragrance of Gold Medal
On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 03:59:56 GMT, "Jeffrey J. Potoff"
wrote this [GASP!} about Gold Medal: It got plenty of water. I don't like the color it fades to. I'm allowed to have an opinion on what colors I like, right? You bet. It's just that when some of us love a rose and others of us hate it, it's like OUCH, you know? Perfectly human. I am going to start a thread just for you in a minute. Well, IN MY OPINION, Gold Medal isn't that great of a rose. I dug mine up this spring and replaced it with Fragrant Plum. I would like to know how this one does for you. I am in search of the perfect purple rose. My choices are all over the group. Simply Marvelous is just about to bloom. Very wimpy bare root, but hope springs eternal. |
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