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"inert" ingredients
I went in search of some info on Ortho Rose Pride
(formerly Funginex), and naturally stumbled onto something even more interesting. It's a page from that well known publicity hound, New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, about the supposedly "inert" ingredients in insecticides, fungicides and rodenticides. It's useful information http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/rep...de_inerts.html "Inert" doesn't mean what a lot of consumers frequently assume: that it is not toxic to humans. In fact, not only are many of the ingredients toxic to humans, they are toxic to various pests as well; just not the ones the manufacturer is targeting with the product. Anyway, if someone can tell me a cheaper but effective substitute for Rose Pride, I'd be appreciative. I'm getting tired of paying $16.00 at Home Depot for it; I can only imagine what the stuff costs at some smaller garden centers. |
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"inert" ingredients
On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 05:21:42 GMT, Jonathan Ball
wrote: I went in search of some info on Ortho Rose Pride (formerly Funginex), and naturally stumbled onto something even more interesting. It's a page from that well known publicity hound, New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, about the supposedly "inert" ingredients in insecticides, fungicides and rodenticides. It's useful information http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/rep...de_inerts.html "Inert" doesn't mean what a lot of consumers frequently assume: that it is not toxic to humans. In fact, not only are many of the ingredients toxic to humans, they are toxic to various pests as well; just not the ones the manufacturer is targeting with the product. If by "Rose Pride" you mean that granular stuff that is a combination fertilizer and pesticide, I have never used that. Compared to the spray concentrate it is much more dangerous to wildlife and other yard creatures. In any event, if even the "inerts" bother you, why not vist the Organic Rose Growing forum at Gardenweb. They will give you all sorts of recipes for lumpy stuff that is, in my opinion, better left in the kitchen. Much depends on where you are. If you are in a warmer, drier place you might be able to get away with less. Here, if left untreated or treated with ineffective means, blackspot will defoliate my roses and weaken them until they die. Anyway, if someone can tell me a cheaper but effective substitute for Rose Pride, I'd be appreciative. I'm getting tired of paying $16.00 at Home Depot for it; I can only imagine what the stuff costs at some smaller garden centers. There is no cheaper, effective substitute that would not have those inert ingredients that you object to. Orthenex is what I use every ten days here in my NC garden, and it works well on both sucking and chewing insects and all fungal disease. However, its erts and inerts are things you will object to. |
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Shiva wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 05:21:42 GMT, Jonathan Ball wrote: I went in search of some info on Ortho Rose Pride (formerly Funginex), and naturally stumbled onto something even more interesting. It's a page from that well known publicity hound, New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, about the supposedly "inert" ingredients in insecticides, fungicides and rodenticides. It's useful information http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/rep...de_inerts.html "Inert" doesn't mean what a lot of consumers frequently assume: that it is not toxic to humans. In fact, not only are many of the ingredients toxic to humans, they are toxic to various pests as well; just not the ones the manufacturer is targeting with the product. If by "Rose Pride" you mean that granular stuff that is a combination fertilizer and pesticide, I don't. They had a liquid product called Funginex that they have relabeled Rose Pride. In any event, if even the "inerts" bother you, I don't know if they bother me or not. The New York OAG page I referenced merely points out that federal labeling law allows a whole lot of compounds to be swept under the "inert" label without telling the consumer what they are. They may not be "inert" at all. why not vist the Organic Rose Growing forum at Gardenweb. They will give you all sorts of recipes for lumpy stuff that is, in my opinion, better left in the kitchen. Much depends on where you are. If you are in a warmer, drier place you might be able to get away with less. Here, if left untreated or treated with ineffective means, blackspot will defoliate my roses and weaken them until they die. Anyway, if someone can tell me a cheaper but effective substitute for Rose Pride, I'd be appreciative. I'm getting tired of paying $16.00 at Home Depot for it; I can only imagine what the stuff costs at some smaller garden centers. There is no cheaper, effective substitute that would not have those inert ingredients that you object to. Orthenex is what I use every ten days here in my NC garden, and it works well on both sucking and chewing insects and all fungal disease. However, its erts and inerts are things you will object to. Again, you've read too much into my post about labeling laws and "inert" ingredients. |
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On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 16:52:13 GMT, Jonathan Ball
wrote: If by "Rose Pride" you mean that granular stuff that is a combination fertilizer and pesticide, I don't. They had a liquid product called Funginex that they have relabeled Rose Pride. Hmm. How odd. So what you want is just a fungicide? If so, I am afraid all of the most effective ones are actually more expensive than Funginex, whatever they may be calling it these days. (I have wanted to try Banner Max for a while, but it is something like $100 a bottle.) I used Immunox for a while, but it is the same price as Funginex here. [...] Again, you've read too much into my post about labeling laws and "inert" ingredients. Sorry. |
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Thank you for the link. I appreciate it very much.
-- Henry Kuska, retired http://home.neo.rr.com/kuska/ "Jonathan Ball" wrote in message ... I went in search of some info on Ortho Rose Pride (formerly Funginex), and naturally stumbled onto something even more interesting. It's a page from that well known publicity hound, New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, about the supposedly "inert" ingredients in insecticides, fungicides and rodenticides. It's useful information http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/rep...de_inerts.html "Inert" doesn't mean what a lot of consumers frequently assume: that it is not toxic to humans. In fact, not only are many of the ingredients toxic to humans, they are toxic to various pests as well; just not the ones the manufacturer is targeting with the product. Anyway, if someone can tell me a cheaper but effective substitute for Rose Pride, I'd be appreciative. I'm getting tired of paying $16.00 at Home Depot for it; I can only imagine what the stuff costs at some smaller garden centers. |
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