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This thread is just for Jeffrey. Thanks for reminding me that it is
PERFECTLY FINE to like what we like and dislike what we dislike JUST BECAUSE. PEACE. I have heard all the debates about different strains etc., and I am not sure what I think. I just know I hate this rose. BIG FAT ugly yellow blooms with horrible quilled petals that want to ball. I had an uncomfortable impulse early on that I later identified as the urge to harvest the buds and boil them and butter them like brussels sprouts. This is thee rose that taught me that the only thing worse than an ugly rose is a PROLIFIC, VIGOROUS ugly rose. MOONSTONE. Also a great big huge fat sauteeable lump of a rose. So NOT fragrant it seems to suck all the fragrance out of YOU when you get near it. Sterile, perfect form, with sterile, perfectly uniform, thin pink petal edges. I pay homage to the Canker Gods for saving me the trouble of hacking this rose to death when it was big and strong. AMELIA EARHART. Like Peace on steroids. Even MORE petals. Hated it at first sight. A rose CAN have too many petals. If she has a grave, the famous pilot rolled over in it when this mistake came out. PENELOPE. Jesus, Alice, what were you thinking? If I want a GD azalea, I'll plant one. In fact I have scores of them already, the gift of an overzealous former property owner. Insiginficant little POS not-quite-pink blooms that prove there IS a color worse than pink. It is Aspire-to-but-just-cannot-achieve Pink. It lives on, but in justified fear for its spindley, puny life. Yes, Jeffrey, it IS okay to hate a rose. |
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Shiva wrote:
This is thee rose that taught me that the only thing worse than an ugly rose is a PROLIFIC, VIGOROUS ugly rose. .... with no scent. -- Henry |
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(Shiva) wrote in
s.com: PENELOPE. Jesus, Alice, what were you thinking? If I want a GD azalea, I'll plant one. In fact I have scores of them already, the gift of an overzealous former property owner. Insiginficant little POS not-quite-pink blooms that prove there IS a color worse than pink. It is Aspire-to-but-just-cannot-achieve Pink. It lives on, but in justified fear for its spindley, puny life. How different personal appreciations can be! I love Penelope. Mine just began to bloom in its first full season and though it's smaller than just about everything else I have (it's young yet), it's a stunner. With delicate semidouble petals that remind me of porcelain, this rose seems to me more like a sasanqua camellia than an azalea; there's something Far-Eastern and exotic about it to my eyes...and it has an enchanting scent. I took these photos last week: http://sakionline.net/penelope.htm I tend to be intrigued by subtleties in roses rather than the screeching look-at-me styles of many modern floribundas and hybrid teas, so you can understand my affection for Penelope's opalescent blush. Clearly though it's not everyone's cup of tea, though if you're an Oolong fancier it might be more your style. Yes, Jeffrey, it IS okay to hate a rose. I'm still wrestling with this concept. I haven't found a rose that I feel inclined to hate, though some I won't grow for whatever reason (too big, too leggy, too mildewy, too yellow, etc.). Some seem to hate *me*. I have a couple Jeanne LaJoie that simply won't bloom. I had them in pots originally; switched them to the ground; just dug them up and potted them back up in my convalescent area. I think I've had them about eight years or so. Somehow I can't get rid of them. I think there's a Good Rose somewhere inside those canes begging to get out and I feel obligated to let it try. ---- |
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:58:06 +0000 (UTC), saki wrote
this about Penelope: (Shiva) wrote in ws.com: PENELOPE. Jesus, Alice, what were you thinking? If I want a GD azalea, I'll plant one. How different personal appreciations can be! Truly! I love Penelope. Mine just began to bloom in its first full season and though it's smaller than just about everything else I have (it's young yet), it's a stunner. With delicate semidouble petals that remind me of porcelain, this rose seems to me more like a sasanqua camellia than an azalea; there's something Far-Eastern and exotic about it to my eyes...and it has an enchanting scent. I took these photos last week: http://sakionline.net/penelope.htm Really lovely--and a great reminder of why I wanted this rose. Mine looks like this if you slow down and look closely--and I rarely do. However, your photo made me go look a minute ago. I tend to be intrigued by subtleties in roses rather than the screeching look-at-me styles of many modern floribundas and hybrid teas This is precisely the difference in our taste in roses--at least at this point in my life. I LOVE to be knocked over by vivid, lucious, big and beautiful blooms! Preferably in oranges, purples, and reds! I like it when they take my breath away! , so you can understand my affection for Penelope's opalescent blush. Clearly though it's not everyone's cup of tea, though if you're an Oolong fancier it might be more your style. You are really a beautiful writer--hope you do it elsewhere, too. Too good to waste on Usenet! Though I appreciate reading it here in rgr. Yes, Jeffrey, it IS okay to hate a rose. I'm still wrestling with this concept. I haven't found a rose that I feel inclined to hate, though some I won't grow for whatever reason (too big, too leggy, too mildewy, too yellow, etc.). A gentle soul! Another aspect I admire but do not share, to state the obvious! Some seem to hate *me*. I have a couple Jeanne LaJoie that simply won't bloom. I had them in pots originally; switched them to the ground; just dug them up and potted them back up in my convalescent area. I think I've had them about eight years or so. Somehow I can't get rid of them. I think there's a Good Rose somewhere inside those canes begging to get out and I feel obligated to let it try. ---- I think it's fun to share and comtemplate our differences. They don't have to square us off in opposition or conflict. |
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This is precisely the difference in our taste in roses--at least at this point in my life. I LOVE to be knocked over by vivid, lucious, big and beautiful blooms! Preferably in oranges, purples, and reds! I like it when they take my breath away! You mean like this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP1.jpg Or this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP2.jpg Or maybe you want to see them at the same time on the same plant: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP3.jpg And finally, here's another interestingly ugly/beautiful ruffle on the plant next door: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP4.jpg Correction - the last one is on the same plant... |
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 19:21:13 -0500, dave weil
wrote: This is precisely the difference in our taste in roses--at least at this point in my life. I LOVE to be knocked over by vivid, lucious, big and beautiful blooms! Preferably in oranges, purples, and reds! I like it when they take my breath away! You mean like this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP1.jpg Or this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP2.jpg Or maybe you want to see them at the same time on the same plant: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP3.jpg And finally, here's another interestingly ugly/beautiful ruffle on the plant next door: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP4.jpg Correction - the last one is on the same plant... And apparently, my transfer of this file didn't work the first time. It's up there now... |
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 18:54:30 -0500, dave weil
wrote: You mean like this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP1.jpg Precisely! ;0) Or this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP2.jpg Yep! I read your Ugly Don Juan post and cannot find it now. You're right, they get quite raggedy--and BROWN here! |
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 14:00:33 GMT, (Shiva) wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 18:54:30 -0500, dave weil wrote: You mean like this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP1.jpg Precisely! ;0) Or this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP2.jpg Yep! I read your Ugly Don Juan post and cannot find it now. You're right, they get quite raggedy--and BROWN here! Here's the pic again: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/UglyDonJuan.jpg To be fair, this is simply rain damage... |
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"dave weil" wrote in message ... On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 14:00:33 GMT, (Shiva) wrote: On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 18:54:30 -0500, dave weil wrote: You mean like this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP1.jpg Precisely! ;0) Or this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP2.jpg Yep! I read your Ugly Don Juan post and cannot find it now. You're right, they get quite raggedy--and BROWN here! Here's the pic again: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/UglyDonJuan.jpg To be fair, this is simply rain damage... Ah! Dave you should see what the rain & Bot has done to the blooms on my Aloha. Brrrr... -- Theo in Zone 5 Kansas City |
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 14:50:30 GMT, "Theo Asir"
wrote: "dave weil" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 14:00:33 GMT, (Shiva) wrote: On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 18:54:30 -0500, dave weil wrote: You mean like this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP1.jpg Precisely! ;0) Or this one? http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DP2.jpg Yep! I read your Ugly Don Juan post and cannot find it now. You're right, they get quite raggedy--and BROWN here! Here's the pic again: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/UglyDonJuan.jpg To be fair, this is simply rain damage... Ah! Dave you should see what the rain & Bot has done to the blooms on my Aloha. Been there when it comes to rain and Aloha. Because of the very complex and dense nature of the Aloha bud, it's very susceptable to severe balling. In fact, I have a few scattered "brussel sprouts" at the moment. The difference between those blooms and this Don Juan is that the Don Juan actually opened. Once Aloha balls, I've never known it to ever really open much. |
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In article m, Shiva
writes This thread is just for Jeffrey. Thanks for reminding me that it is PERFECTLY FINE to like what we like and dislike what we dislike JUST BECAUSE. PEACE. I have heard all the debates about different strains etc., and I am not sure what I think. I just know I hate this rose. BIG FAT ugly yellow blooms with horrible quilled petals that want to ball. I had an uncomfortable impulse early on that I later identified as the urge to harvest the buds and boil them and butter them like brussels sprouts. This is thee rose that taught me that the only thing worse than an ugly rose is a PROLIFIC, VIGOROUS ugly rose. Not only hideous, but, as you say, obese. I also hate Super Star, the ubiquitous Compassion, and the dreadful Grandpa Dickson - what a shape! My pet hate just now is the ghastly rhapsody in Blue, top rose in the UK - and hideous, and not blue but a kind of stark purple. I can never understand the quest for a blue rose. However, I can't agree about Penelope - she seems divine to me, delicate, dainty, fragile, like eighteenth-century porcelain. She doesn't suggest azaleas to me either, but old ramblers like Rambling Rector (mine is juuuust out now - what a sight and what a scent). -- Jane Lumley |
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dave weil wrote:
Here's the pic again: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/UglyDonJuan.jpg To be fair, this is simply rain damage... Ah! Dave you should see what the rain & Bot has done to the blooms on my Aloha. Been there when it comes to rain and Aloha. Because of the very complex and dense nature of the Aloha bud, it's very susceptable to severe balling. In fact, I have a few scattered "brussel sprouts" at the moment. The difference between those blooms and this Don Juan is that the Don Juan actually opened. Once Aloha balls, I've never known it to ever really open much. Here's another "good" example of how bad the wet (calling this spring damp is like calling Bill Gates well off) and bot can make a rose look (the first two pictures on the page - click for larger view). This is Johann Strauss. http://www.dotrose.com/whatsinbloom/20030606.php -- Henry |
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Yes, Jeffrey, it IS okay to hate a rose. Well, this is where my amature status comes to the forefront. I can honestly say that there is not a single rose that I do not like. Yes I have my favorites. And yes, some have been named in this thread. But the fact is, that to me, each one has something different to offer. I am a sucker for bi-colors and tri-colors. Yet a Mister Lincoln or Gold Marie can still take my breath away. I love the old fasioned smelling varities as well, but even the soft or lightly smelling varieties can be just as nice when grouped. And I watch my plants suffer from black spot, balling, aphids, and powdery mildew and do my best to control them. Proliferation? My miniture Candy tuff is going through the same right now. But they are still there and still blooming. Like I said, to me, there is no ugly rose, some are just prettier nd better smelling than others. |
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Shiva wrote: This thread is just for Jeffrey. Thanks for reminding me that it is PERFECTLY FINE to like what we like and dislike what we dislike JUST BECAUSE. PEACE. I have heard all the debates about different strains etc., and I am not sure what I think. I just know I hate this rose. BIG FAT ugly yellow blooms with horrible quilled petals that want to ball. I had an uncomfortable impulse early on that I later identified as the urge to harvest the buds and boil them and butter them like brussels sprouts. This is thee rose that taught me that the only thing worse than an ugly rose is a PROLIFIC, VIGOROUS ugly rose. MOONSTONE. Also a great big huge fat sauteeable lump of a rose. So NOT fragrant it seems to suck all the fragrance out of YOU when you get near it. Sterile, perfect form, with sterile, perfectly uniform, thin pink petal edges. I pay homage to the Canker Gods for saving me the trouble of hacking this rose to death when it was big and strong. AMELIA EARHART. Like Peace on steroids. Even MORE petals. Hated it at first sight. A rose CAN have too many petals. If she has a grave, the famous pilot rolled over in it when this mistake came out. PENELOPE. Jesus, Alice, what were you thinking? If I want a GD azalea, I'll plant one. In fact I have scores of them already, the gift of an overzealous former property owner. Insiginficant little POS not-quite-pink blooms that prove there IS a color worse than pink. It is Aspire-to-but-just-cannot-achieve Pink. It lives on, but in justified fear for its spindley, puny life. Yes, Jeffrey, it IS okay to hate a rose. HA, HA, HA! Nice Post, Shiva. :) |
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Andy wrote: Yes, Jeffrey, it IS okay to hate a rose. Well, this is where my amature status comes to the forefront. I can honestly say that there is not a single rose that I do not like. Yes I have my favorites. And yes, some have been named in this thread. But the fact is, that to me, each one has something different to offer. I am a sucker for bi-colors and tri-colors. Yet a Mister Lincoln or Gold Marie can still take my breath away. I love the old fasioned smelling varities as well, but even the soft or lightly smelling varieties can be just as nice when grouped. And I watch my plants suffer from black spot, balling, aphids, and powdery mildew and do my best to control them. Proliferation? My miniture Candy tuff is going through the same right now. But they are still there and still blooming. Like I said, to me, there is no ugly rose, some are just prettier nd better smelling than others. Nah, there are ugly roses. :) They just start grating on you until finally you can't take it anymore. Then out comes the shovel. Muuuuuwwwwwaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaahhhhhhaaaa! J. |
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In article , lid
says... Here's another "good" example of how bad the wet (calling this spring damp is like calling Bill Gates well off) and bot can make a rose look (the first two pictures on the page - click for larger view). This is Johann Strauss. http://www.dotrose.com/whatsinbloom/20030606.php damp/water will sure do it to some but a rose prone to doing this may or may not need any moisture to do it. and a rose prone to doing this might not ball if it gets wet during the process of blooming. It's all dependent on the prevailing general heat and humidity and each rose variety's unique window of opportunity, and if that's generally favorable, a little water won't cause this reaction. I have a bush full of balled Mme. Caroline Testout, an old Hybrid Tea and Yves Piaget is currently in that mode and just starting to come out of it--the humidity is rising and there are some really fat groups of buds that I can tell from long experience ain gon be having that problem. m -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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says... On 7 Jun 2003 23:46:15 -0500, (lms) wrote: In article , says... HA, HA, HA! Nice Post, have you seen those ford bumper stickers with the little tyke ****ing on a chevy? That would be Calvin. hahahaha. I have a ford one for my chevy and a chevy one for my ford. no I don't, those bumperstickers disgust me. another one struck me funny the other day, 'Praise The Lard.' A friend of mine drives a 64 VW, he has one that says 'This is not an abandoned vehicle.' It just did Nicaragua and back. m -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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On 8 Jun 2003 09:27:47 -0500, (lms) wrote:
In article , says... On 7 Jun 2003 23:46:15 -0500, (lms) wrote: In article , says... HA, HA, HA! Nice Post, have you seen those ford bumper stickers with the little tyke ****ing on a chevy? That would be Calvin. hahahaha. I have a ford one for my chevy and a chevy one for my ford. no I don't, those bumperstickers disgust me. another one struck me funny the other day, 'Praise The Lard.' A friend of mine drives a 64 VW, he has one that says 'This is not an abandoned vehicle.' It just did Nicaragua and back. m You might want to check your site as some of those photos that I said had broken links are *still* showing this message: Broken Link You have encountered a dead link or another problem with this NRAO web server. Please submit a short bug report including the URL that caused this error to show up. Note: If you want feedback about this problem, you have to enter your email address as well. According to our privacy policy, your email address will only be used to address this problem. Thanks. Your browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; YComp 5.0.2.6) Bad URL: http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/Toc98c.jpg Referring URL: http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/ Your email address (if you want a response): Comments (optional): This is the section from around Touch of Class on down. Here's a partial list: http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/Fragcl.jpg http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/Sweetbig.jpg http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/safrulia.jpg http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/summerfa.jpg http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/Bewitcht.jpg http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/Mitsouk8.jpg http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~mstephen/mystery.jpg http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/~malfero/Scendort.jpg So, you might want to check your pages out. |
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 07:30:48 -0400, Henry
wrote: Shiva wrote: This is thee rose that taught me that the only thing worse than an ugly rose is a PROLIFIC, VIGOROUS ugly rose. ... with no scent. -- Yet another prime selling point! g I take it you once grew this dog? |
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On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:32:38 -0400, Henry
wrote: Here's another "good" example of how bad the wet (calling this spring damp is like calling Bill Gates well off) and bot can make a rose look (the first two pictures on the page - click for larger view). This is Johann Strauss. http://www.dotrose.com/whatsinbloom/20030606.php Ooo. Sad. Mine have been drowning too. It's a great time to be a cut rose person. Soon as I see a spot of color emerge I'm out there snipping. Unfortunately, there are many I cannot see unless I hunt for them. I have the saddest looking bed of baby ownroot Austins in the world--soggy brown petals, heads nodding into the dirt. I'm trying to grow them on a fence, but I think maybe they need obelisks to get them started, or to just keep them from eating dirt in all this rain! Lowe's has a nice 3.5 foot black one for $25. I'm growing tradescant on it. -- Henry |
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On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:23:35 +0100, Jane Lumley
wrote: In article m, Shiva writes This thread is just for Jeffrey. Thanks for reminding me that it is PERFECTLY FINE to like what we like and dislike what we dislike JUST BECAUSE. Not only hideous, but, as you say, obese. Now, now, Jane, don't poke fun at the afflicted! G I also hate Super Star, the ubiquitous Compassion, Hmm. Care to elaborate? I've thought about Compassion. Granted, you don't like hybrid teas so much from your other posts, but what is it about this one you particularly dislike? It gets some good press! and the dreadful Grandpa Dickson - what a shape! What shape is it? My pet hate just now is the ghastly rhapsody in Blue, top rose in the UK - and hideous, and not blue but a kind of stark purple. I can never understand the quest for a blue rose. Me either but purple is a different story. Are you saying that R.I.B is actually a pure PURPLE? I have been searching for the perfect purple rose since I first planted Lagerfeld because it was the closest thing to purple at the garden center. If so, is it just the color you hate? However, I can't agree about Penelope - she seems divine to me, delicate, dainty, fragile, like eighteenth-century porcelain. She doesn't suggest azaleas to me either, but old ramblers like Rambling Rector (mine is juuuust out now - what a sight and what a scent). -- Jane Lumley *Sigh* Yes, Jane, I am just not subtle enough to appreciate Penelope. Seriously. We all have our down sides. Point still being, it's perfectly okay to like what you like and hate what you hate. No need to get personal or upset, certainly not venomous about our differences. There is room for every point of view here, as there should be. |
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On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 17:11:24 GMT, "Andy"
wrote: I am a sucker for bi-colors and tri-colors. Now you're speaking my language. What have you got? Some nice ones: Granada, Sheila's Perfume, Gold Medal, Circus, Heart of Gold, Arizona, and, in the odd category, Distant Drums. This is the neatest rose!! Great shrubby shape, great fragrance. I have three. |
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On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 01:43:35 GMT, "Jeffrey J. Potoff"
wrote: Nah, there are ugly roses. :) They just start grating on you until finally you can't take it anymore. Then out comes the shovel. Muuuuuwwwwwaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaahhhhhhaaaa! J. There really is something satisfying about it, isn't there? Here is who I am currently eyeing with malicious intent: Reine des Violettes--really small blooms, that odd "fountain" hybrid perpetual shape, in its third year and wayyyyy ho hum. Tineke--just not a major bloomer, blooms have no fragrance, form is lacking. Nicole--this floribunda gets BIG, even on its own roots. No scent, pretty blossoms but a big ungainly shape and very thorny. George Burns--man, I want to like this rose, really I do. It has had four years, so it's time for a decision. The blooms are graceless. Lots of perky short petals. Just not pretty, to me. |
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Not only hideous, but, as you say, obese.
Now, now, Jane, don't poke fun at the afflicted! G I am guilty of incorrectness here. I also hate Super Star, the ubiquitous Compassion, Hmm. Care to elaborate? I've thought about Compassion. Granted, you don't like hybrid teas so much from your other posts, but what is it about this one you particularly dislike? It gets some good press! I'm sick of it. You see it everywhere. and it's quite dull, actually - orangey, and no, I don't like many HTs (actually ido like a few). and the dreadful Grandpa Dickson - what a shape! Pointy. The petals, that is. Spidery. My pet hate just now is the ghastly rhapsody in Blue, top rose in the UK - and hideous, and not blue but a kind of stark purple. I can never understand the quest for a blue rose. Me either but purple is a different story. Are you saying that R.I.B is actually a pure PURPLE? I have been searching for the perfect purple rose since I first planted Lagerfeld because it was the closest thing to purple at the garden center. If so, is it just the color you hate? I'd say from the specimen I saw at Chelsea that it's just about the same shade as Cardinal Richelieu after three or four days on the bush. But it's more saturated. Don't like the shape either, or the scent. h to appreciate Penelope. Seriously. We all have our down sides. Gee, I never said that, or thought it. Just my 0.02c that she's lovely, and an attempt to say a bit about why. There is room for every point of view here, as there should be. No venom meant. Sorry if some was felt. -- Jane Lumley |
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On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 20:51:33 +0100, Jane Lumley
wrote: Not only hideous, but, as you say, obese. Now, now, Jane, don't poke fun at the afflicted! G I am guilty of incorrectness here. Into the stocks with you! compassion I'm sick of it. You see it everywhere. I know the feeling. Knockout is like that here. Anyone who goes to the grocery, drug store, dentist or doctor's office is an instant expert on the thing. It must be in every office park/retail center around. and it's quite dull, actually - orangey, and no, I don't like many HTs (actually ido like a few). Which ones? Inquiring minds, you know! and the dreadful Grandpa Dickson - what a shape! Pointy. The petals, that is. Spidery. I hate that. About Rhapsody in Blue: I'd say from the specimen I saw at Chelsea that it's just about the same shade as Cardinal Richelieu after three or four days on the bush. But it's more saturated. Don't like the shape either, or the scent. Hmm. Never saw the Cardinal. Maybe two more to add to this year's list. h to appreciate Penelope. Seriously. We all have our down sides. Gee, I never said that, or thought it. Just my 0.02c that she's lovely, and an attempt to say a bit about why. No, no, actually *I* said it! In response to someone's very astute observations about the subtle attributes of Penelope. I freely admit it. I can't do math, either! There is room for every point of view here, as there should be. No venom meant. Sorry if some was felt. None was felt at all! We agree. You answered the post in the spirit in which I made it--that there is room for all opinions. -- Jane Lumley |
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Hmm. Care to elaborate? I've thought about Compassion. Granted, you
don't like hybrid teas so much from your other posts, but what is it about this one you particularly dislike? It gets some good press! I'm sick of it. You see it everywhere. and it's quite dull, actually - orangey, and no, I don't like many HTs (actually ido like a few). Yah! Compassion is not particularly distinctive or even very refined. It main selling point in my book is its incredible toughness for a HT. Absolutely cold tolerant, never any disease, drought tolerant, looks after itself rose. Has scent too. How many HT's can say that. Right now my pet hates are Knock out & Double delight. Where did all the press for knock out come from? The only thing I like is that most nuseries sell it own root. So the good Doctor Huey is finally gonna have some competition. -- Theo in Zone 5 Kansas City |
Roses I Love To Hate And The People Who Love Them
and it's quite dull, actually -
orangey, and no, I don't like many HTs (actually ido like a few). Which ones? Inquiring minds, you know! Well, now you've asked.... Mme Gregoire Staechlin, aka Spanish Beauty - very tough and vigorous, too, but the flowers are really worth having, and she also does fine hips. Off the top of my head: Anna Pavlova Lady Mary Fitzwilliam Ophelia I'd say from the specimen I saw at Chelsea that it's just about the same shade as Cardinal Richelieu after three or four days on the bush. But it's more saturated. Don't like the shape either, or the scent. Hmm. Never saw the Cardinal. Maybe two more to add to this year's list. He's a darling. Dark sinister red, blood-of-the-vampire red, maturing in flower to Gothic purple, and refluxing to almost ball shape. Ideal for the Goth Garden. He's a Gallica, of course. Glad I didn't cause needless offence - thank you for your reassurances, -- Jane Lumley |
Roses I Love To Hate And The People Who Love Them
I am a sucker for bi-colors and tri-colors.
Now you're speaking my language. What have you got? Some nice ones: Granada, Sheila's Perfume, Gold Medal, Circus, Heart of Gold, Arizona, and, in the odd category, Distant Drums. This is the neatest rose!! Great shrubby shape, great fragrance. I have three. Lets see, Dessert Sunset, Rio Samba, Double Delight, Purple Tiger, Rockin Robin, Hurdy Gurdey, Incognito, Robin Redbreast, Peace, Tangerine Twist, Our Little Secret (buds open with a whithe stripe down the center of a dark red petal that darkens to the same red), and Merlot. I just reread this, is there a pattern here? lol Andy |
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