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"Shovel Prune" Epiphany
"Caterbro" writes:
io'm still agonizing over where to put 4 6" Dr. Hueys that cropped up out of an old bed. I put stakes so they can be carefully mowed around whilst i find the perfect spot for them! Been there, done that. The good Doctor is no longer with us. In fact, he was the first rose I shovel pruned. He did have pretty blooms for a few weeks, then defoliated from blackspot. Also the first rose in my garden to ever suffer from powdery mildew. I never felt a bit of guilt about putting his reamins in the garbage can. |
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"Shovel Prune" Epiphany
Im my own defense, I'm not quite as self-limiting as my post may have
seemed! When I mentioned having between5 & 15 roses, I didn't mean to suggest that I had 15 roses of only 5 varieties total -- just that I was too lazy to go out & count them before I posted! Actually, my only doubles are Abraham Darby & Blaze (the former because of the scent; the latter, because the arbor has two sides). And I have 15 roses because I'm just getting started on my "slide down the slippery slope"! (Life was really easier when I spent my creative choices on tomato seeds to start.) I guess you can really tell I'm a rosanewbie, because I don't even know what BS stands for? (I mean I know how I've understood it for the last 40 years or so, but I doubt that's what you meant!) Anne Lurie Raleigh, NC "Unique Too" wrote in message ... "Anne Lurie" writes: Now, however, I can exercise my freedom of choice -- although my choice may seem limiting to some people. (I'm one of those tiresome people who orders the same thing at the same restaurants -- "because it was so good last time" -- so I'm sure that next year, I'll be planting another Graham Thomas and yet another Abraham Darby (now *that* fragrance could have made me a rose fanatic years ago!), and it's okay! I'm okay, you're okay, we're all okay! Another step in growing with roses. Accepting that it's okay whatever choices other people make. Myself, I only have duplicates of two roses (out of ~50). I like variety. I order something different when we eat out, just because I've never tried "that: before. It's led me to try Octopus (disgusting), escargot (love 'em), raw oysters (they're okay), fish eggs (what is the proper term? and I paid How Much for that!). But it's okay. If you are happy with fifteen roses of five varieties, that's okay with me. Shiva likes her big blowsey HTs in garish colors. I like the OGRs in mostly soft colors. She sprays on a regular basis, I'm trying to rid my gaden of BS magnets. But it's okay. We love roses, just in different ways. |
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"Shovel Prune" Epiphany
"Caterbro" writes:
mine are well-nigh indestructible- the only downside is the one short blooming- no BS or mildew- few bugs, drought tolerant, etc., etc, If mine had been like that, he would still be aorund. I really liked the blooms and could probably live with them once a year. But all those long bare canes for 10 months a year I could not handle. |
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"Shovel Prune" Epiphany
"Anne Lurie" writes:
When I mentioned having between5 & 15 roses, I didn't mean to suggest that I had 15 roses of only 5 varieties total -- just that I was too lazy to go out & count them before I posted! I didn't mean to offend, I was only playing off the numbers you used. I really didn't think you had only 5 varieties. Actually, my only doubles are Abraham Darby & Blaze (the former because of the scent; the latter, because the arbor has two sides). And I have 15 roses because I'm just getting started on my "slide down the slippery slope"! (Life was really easier when I spent my creative choices on tomato seeds to start.) Um, well, I think my life is simpler since roses, before roses I had kids and no creative choices. And I have doubles of LaMarne, I think that's the only one. I guess you can really tell I'm a rosanewbie, because I don't even know what BS stands for? (I mean I know how I've understood it for the last 40 years or so, but I doubt that's what you meant!) BS=Blackspot. Here in the humid swamp BS (my term) is just some of the BS (your term) you have to deal with on many roses. Julie |
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"Shovel Prune" Epiphany
When I first bought my home, I was an avid gardener. Vegetable garden,
apple trees, seven rose beds all over the yard. Being in zone 3/4, I had lots of fall and spring work but had no kids, a job with a big company, and plenty of free time. About eight years ago with three kids in sports, my own small company, and no time, I looked at the spring wreckage of my landscape, seeded the vegetable garden, gave away all my rose bushes, put in rock. A couple of weeks ago, I drove past a nursery and thought how nice one of their potted roses would look in an empty spot near my front door. Planted one the next day. Last week I put in some raised beds and planted tomatos and cucumbers. I hope its not starting again. |
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"Shovel Prune" Epiphany
"Caterbro" wrote in
: (Shiva) wrote in m: There seems to be a whole circuit we travel with this rose-growing thing, with many common stops along the way, where most of us eventually rest, even if only for a while. I am at the one labeled "Discover the Joy of Guiltless Shovel Pruning!" Where are you? io'm still agonizing over where to put 4 6" Dr. Hueys that cropped up out of an old bed. I put stakes so they can be carefully mowed around whilst i find the perfect spot for them! I have a couple bay Dr. Huey's too. I'm happy enough with my full-sized one to want more so I rescued a couple and now have them growing on their own. I tried shovel-pruning only once and was sorry (a Nearly Wild that wasn't performing). I understand the necessity in some cases and have no trouble refraining from anthropomorphizing my plants. Old bedding plants or misbehaving shurbs get the boot reguarly. But with roses I don't seem to be able to do it. Just the other week I dug up two Jeanne LaJoie plants that have been with me nearly ten years and have ill-performed for me. This is their third permutation; first they were in pots, then in the ground, now back in two-gallon containers while I rejuvenate their foliage and figure out where they'll go next. I have plenty of neighbors begging me to give them a rose garden that looks like mine. Of course I won't do that exactly but I find that donating my under-performers to the neighbors (or the neighborhood) helps me feel that there's a second or third chance lurking for them, and often the change in venue makes a world of difference. It's more a challenge to me to prove to myself that the rose really has a raison d'etre...and that I can find out what it is if I just explore what it really wants. To each his or her own, though. Perhaps when I have two hundred roses to contend with I'll be singing a slightly different tune. ---- |
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