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Amy Chan 11-11-2003 04:22 AM

Sick mini and Ideal temp for minis
 
Hello,

I am in New York City. I recently brought my potted mini into my home
from fear of frost. Saturday was the night where the temperature hit
freezing.

Now, it is Monday. I noticed some fuzziness on the tips of some new
leaf and rose buds (1 unopened bud, and 1 new leaf bud.) What is it?

I had a spider mite infestation over the summer which I nixed with a
water and detergent spray.

Could it be that the recent warming has hatched eggs? How do I get
rid of fuzziness, same detergent and water spray?

I also want to know what is the lowest temperature I can expose my
mini to in its pot. I still would like to give it air and have it
drip dry after watering.

Amy

dave weil 11-11-2003 08:42 AM

Sick mini and Ideal temp for minis
 
On 10 Nov 2003 20:15:37 -0800, (Amy Chan) wrote:

Hello,

I am in New York City. I recently brought my potted mini into my home
from fear of frost. Saturday was the night where the temperature hit
freezing.

Now, it is Monday. I noticed some fuzziness on the tips of some new
leaf and rose buds (1 unopened bud, and 1 new leaf bud.) What is it?


Does it look like cotton? If so, it's probably mealybugs.

I had a spider mite infestation over the summer which I nixed with a
water and detergent spray.

Could it be that the recent warming has hatched eggs? How do I get
rid of fuzziness, same detergent and water spray?


Taking a cotton swab with alcohol will take care of the fuzziness, if
it's mealybugs. The cottony material will instantly turn brown and
this indicates that the insects have died.

I also want to know what is the lowest temperature I can expose my
mini to in its pot. I still would like to give it air and have it
drip dry after watering.


Now, here's the rub. You should leave the pot outside and only bring
it inside in case of wildly extreme temps. I'm assuming that you have
a balcony and not a plot of land. Your pot will be able to stand
sub-zero temps with a little help. All you need to do is insulate it.
You can wrap it in layers of cloth, or you can use a larger pot, put
it inside the pot and fill up the space with mulch and then cover the
whole thing with a cloth.

Your balcony will give it some protection against the cold, especially
if you put it next to the wall of the building during nights when it
might drop into the 20s. Here in Tennessee, when it gets cold, my
minis in the ground defoliate, so I wouldn't be too worried if yours
do the same. The ideal thing is to pop them into the ground if you
have a patch of ground available. But the worst thing you can do is to
move them indoors, as you have seen. It's very difficult to get them
to survive indoors, as you have discovered.

The roses themselves usually don't mind freezing temps, but you *do*
have to protect the roots from freezing. So you have to simulate them
being in the ground as much as possible. The roots will freeze in
unprotected pots and this is what you are trying to prevent by
insulating them.

The tricky part will be watering them. Maybe someone with more
experience with leaving small pots outdoors the whole winter can weigh
in. You see, your watering goes waaaay down in the winter, which helps
them go dormant, but I suspect that if you do the same in a small pot,
you run the risk of killing them by excessively drying the roots.
Anyone?


J. Del Col 11-11-2003 01:22 PM

Sick mini and Ideal temp for minis
 
(Amy Chan) wrote in message . com...
Hello,

I am in New York City. I recently brought my potted mini into my home
from fear of frost. Saturday was the night where the temperature hit
freezing.

Now, it is Monday. I noticed some fuzziness on the tips of some new
leaf and rose buds (1 unopened bud, and 1 new leaf bud.) What is it?

I had a spider mite infestation over the summer which I nixed with a
water and detergent spray.

Could it be that the recent warming has hatched eggs? How do I get
rid of fuzziness, same detergent and water spray?

I also want to know what is the lowest temperature I can expose my
mini to in its pot. I still would like to give it air and have it
drip dry after watering.



Most minis can easily withstand a frost. They are a lot tougher
than many people think they are. The flower buds might freeze, but
the plant will do OK.

I put my few minis in the ground, and they have no problems surviving
WV winters and temps down to -5 or -10 F or so. The worst
environment for
a mini is indoors. The warm, dry conditions dehydrate the plant and
allow spider mites to thrive.

Keep the plant outdoors as much as possible. Water it frequently. The
main problem in winter for potted hardy roses--aside from having the
pot crack from freezing-- is dehydration.


J. Del Col

Theo 11-11-2003 08:12 PM

Sick mini and Ideal temp for minis
 

Could be one of many things.

If it is whitish it is powdery mildew.

If it is greenish and moves it could be aphids.

Solution for all is the same.
A spray with baking soda and insecticidal soap
or for a bad infestation one of those multi
spectrum rose sprays. Not good for children or pets.

Growing minis indoors is a labor of love.
I'm glad to see you are watch your plants closely
this catches infction before they become an epidemic.

The dry environment should be countered with occasional mistings.
This disrupts spider mites and mildew.

Theo

Who is carefully inspecting the plants that
that have come in for winter.

"Amy Chan" wrote in message
om...
Hello,

I am in New York City. I recently brought my potted mini into my home
from fear of frost. Saturday was the night where the temperature hit
freezing.

Now, it is Monday. I noticed some fuzziness on the tips of some new
leaf and rose buds (1 unopened bud, and 1 new leaf bud.) What is it?

I had a spider mite infestation over the summer which I nixed with a
water and detergent spray.

Could it be that the recent warming has hatched eggs? How do I get
rid of fuzziness, same detergent and water spray?

I also want to know what is the lowest temperature I can expose my
mini to in its pot. I still would like to give it air and have it
drip dry after watering.

Amy





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