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Bob Bauer 23-01-2003 04:45 PM

lifespan of a rose
 
Donna proclaimed:

You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
would believe anything your mother told you?


There are of course, countless examples of roses living this long or
longer. My own mother who is 90 years old has a 'Peace' rose that is
planted in her garden and growing well that was planted in the 50's.
Still blooms every year, and hasn't reverted to the root stock.

Go into any old neighborhood in America and you will find roses on
every single block that are of the same era or older.

The 'Texas Rose Rustlers' organization is predicated on the idea that
there are old roses all over the place that can be 'discovered'.
Varieties that were thought to be lost to history.

Own root roses are more likely to survive a long time than budded or
grafted roses.

Bob Bauer
Zone 6 in Salt Lake City
http://www.rose-roses.com/



Snooze 23-01-2003 07:59 PM

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"Donna" wrote in message
om...
(FRbud35) wrote in message

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How long can a rose live? I have a rose in my garden that my mother

said she
thought she planted in the 50's. She said it was called "American

Beauty",
It is still going strong.


You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
would believe anything your mother told you?


No reason a rose bush can't live 50 years, that's nothing as far as plants
are concerned. There is a Creosote-bush out in the Mohave that is estimated
to be 6000 years old, Redwood trees regularly get to be a thousand years
old. Joshua trees, out in Joshua Tree National Forest, average 200 years,
and some live to be 900 years old.

A rose bush in a garden probably gets plety of TLC, if the same owners have
lived there the past 50 years. Plenty of others here have already mentioned
that some roses are several hundred years old

Sameer



Shiva 23-01-2003 08:09 PM

lifespan of a rose
 
Snooze wrote:

"Donna" wrote in message
om...
(FRbud35) wrote in message

...
How long can a rose live? I have a rose in my garden that my mother

said she
thought she planted in the 50's. She said it was called "American

Beauty",
It is still going strong.


You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
would believe anything your mother told you?


No reason a rose bush can't live 50 years, that's nothing as far as

plants
are concerned.


I agree, Sameer. And I would just like to add, in an "aside" to Donna,
something many of us may be thinking but all of us are way top polite to
say:

What the hell is WRONG with you, DONNA, anyway?

What else are you absolutely sure of that isn't remotely true, hmmmm?

G



Allegra 23-01-2003 08:33 PM

lifespan of a rose
 

"Donna" wrote in message
om...
(FRbud35) wrote in message

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You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
would believe anything your mother told you?


To doubt everything or to believe everything
are two equally convenient solutions; both
dispense with the necessity of reflection.

- Jules Henri Poincaré

Allegra



kirsten 24-01-2003 12:30 PM

lifespan of a rose
 
"Snooze" wrote in message thlink.net...
"Donna" wrote in message
om...
(FRbud35) wrote in message

...
How long can a rose live? I have a rose in my garden that my mother

said she
thought she planted in the 50's. She said it was called "American

Beauty",
It is still going strong.


You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
would believe anything your mother told you?


No reason a rose bush can't live 50 years, that's nothing as far as plants
are concerned. There is a Creosote-bush out in the Mohave that is estimated
to be 6000 years old, Redwood trees regularly get to be a thousand years
old. Joshua trees, out in Joshua Tree National Forest, average 200 years,
and some live to be 900 years old.

A rose bush in a garden probably gets plety of TLC, if the same owners have
lived there the past 50 years. Plenty of others here have already mentioned
that some roses are several hundred years old

Sameer


I agree, i think it probably could live for many years. I've been
living in my house for 17 years and the roses are still there and they
look as if they have been there for many years before i came. If you
look after something properly it can life as long as you want it to.

kirsten

Jane Lumley 24-01-2003 04:26 PM

lifespan of a rose
 
In article , dave weil
writes
You honestly cannot believe a rose that your mother planted 50 years
ago is still living. If you do believe in this then i suppose you
would believe anything your mother told you?


Why wouldn't this be the case? Roses can *certainly* live that long.

Of course they can. I had one in my garden that the previous owner said
dated back to the 20s. There are some in old English gardens that are
eighty-plus years old - I think the original Kiftsgate rose is more than
that.
--
Jane Lumley

farmgal 12-02-2003 08:55 PM

lifespan of a rose
 

As far as rose longevity:
There's an old cemetary near here that dates back to the Gold Rish. In it
are tombstones untouched for many a decade, but the roses are still
flourishing.




Ronald Szabo 13-02-2003 10:27 PM

lifespan of a rose
 
Can't beat the old blood and bone for roses...

farmgal wrote:

As far as rose longevity:
There's an old cemetary near here that dates back to the Gold Rish. In it
are tombstones untouched for many a decade, but the roses are still
flourishing.



Julia 15-02-2003 08:27 AM

lifespan of a rose
 
farmgal wrote:
I'm in Yolo County, and the Capay Valley cemetary near here dates back to
about 1860. It is still in active use today. The roses don't get regular
care; ie; pruning and fertilizing, but it does get water and has daily
supervision and is quite rural, so the level of vandalism is quite low. I've
got a few cuttings from it which are starting to takeoff. Would love to
visit both Sac and Placerville this spring!



Here's a website with info on the Sac cemetery,

http://home.inreach.com/verlaine/roses/index.html

Are there any old roses in the Capay Valley cemetery? I just checked
Mapquest, you're not too far from Yosemite, are you? What an
interesting place to live!



farmgal 17-02-2003 06:27 AM

lifespan of a rose
 
Are there any old roses in the Capay Valley cemetery? I just checked
Mapquest, you're not too far from Yosemite, are you? What an
interesting place to live!


Thanks for the Sac info; I can't wait. And I guess Mapquest is wrong
sometimes. I'm about as far west of Sac as Placerville is east. 10 miles or
so from UCDavis and Vacaville. I haven't IDed anything for sure, but there's
a number of roses growing around headstones that date to around the turn of
the century. Are you in Placerville?




Julia 17-02-2003 11:27 AM

lifespan of a rose
 
farmgal wrote:
Are there any old roses in the Capay Valley cemetery? I just checked
Mapquest, you're not too far from Yosemite, are you? What an
interesting place to live!



Thanks for the Sac info; I can't wait. And I guess Mapquest is wrong
sometimes. I'm about as far west of Sac as Placerville is east. 10 miles or
so from UCDavis and Vacaville. I haven't IDed anything for sure, but there's
a number of roses growing around headstones that date to around the turn of
the century. Are you in Placerville?



No, I'm in San Diego but a group of us took a trip to the gold country 3
years ago to scope out the cemetery roses. It was a gas!



rsweeney 23-02-2003 06:27 PM

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Well, i live across a plantation, that was built here in eastern VA (zone 7)
back in teh 1700's and i have a clipping off a rose bush planted there for
longer than they can rembr.

"Julia" wrote in message
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farmgal wrote:
As far as rose longevity:
There's an old cemetary near here that dates back to the Gold Rish. In

it
are tombstones untouched for many a decade, but the roses are still
flourishing.



Gold rush? Where are you located? If you're talking about the
California gold rush country, that's a veritable treasure trove that's
fast disappearing. Many of the cemetery districts are so cash-strapped
that they've sprayed Roundup on everything, killing not only weeds but
roses that have lived for 150 years with little or no care.

It's heart-breaking for a rose lover. The Placerville Union Cemetery is
one that's still green, however, and has some lovely things. There's
another town, whose name escapes me at the moment, where the Catholic
cemetery is right across the road from the Protestant cemetery, lots of
goodies in each one. The old Sacramento city cemetery has been reborn
through the efforts of some dedicated nuts up there in the past 10 years
and their spring flush is a sight to behold. It's definitely worth a
trip if you're anywhere near it.





farmgal 24-02-2003 04:15 AM

lifespan of a rose
 
I'm green with envy :)




rogermackk 22-03-2011 11:07 PM

I agree, I think it probably can live for many years. I have been living in my house for 17 years, roses remain, they look like they have been for many years before I came. If you take good care of the things that it can live as long as you want it.

Crow 26-03-2011 10:57 AM

I believe roses live longer too, all they need from you is to take care of them, give them the water and light they need, and they will survive for longer than how much you could expect, it all depends on you.


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