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Old 19-02-2004, 04:12 PM
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:35:07 -0600, "Hound Dog" opined:


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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:16:38 +0000, Crystal wrote:


When is the average last frost where you are? When I lived in Portland,
everyone believed that the last frost was always on Tax Day, April 15!

Is
this a saying anywhere else? Now I live in Northern California, where
there's never any frost. Not in my corner of it, at least.

Dreaming of springtime,
Crystal Bucher


The USDA has all kinds of charts with average last frost dates. Why ask?


How about the URL?




www.google.com
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Old 19-02-2004, 04:46 PM
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:12:24 GMT, escapee
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:16:38 GMT, Crystal opined:


When is the average last frost where you are? When I lived in
Portland, everyone believed that the last frost was always on Tax
Day, April 15! Is this a saying anywhere else? Now I live in
Northern California, where there's never any frost. Not in my
corner of it, at least.

Dreaming of springtime,
Crystal Bucher


Average last frost date in my region is March 6, but I don't ever trust that as
anything can happen. We safely go with March 15-20. For sure by March 30.


I think I read that here in Nashville (Zone 6b), last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.
Just this week, we got 7 inches of snow just a hour SOUTH of here.
Nashville got nary a flake.

What hurts us is the late March hard frost that we always seem to get.
It occurs right at the peak of marigold bloomings. Usually screws
things up good, especially since mid-March is usually quite warm.
That's why I usually wait until mid-April to do my serious spring
pruning.
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Old 19-02-2004, 05:08 PM
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:12:24 GMT, escapee
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:16:38 GMT, Crystal opined:


When is the average last frost where you are? When I lived in
Portland, everyone believed that the last frost was always on Tax
Day, April 15! Is this a saying anywhere else? Now I live in
Northern California, where there's never any frost. Not in my
corner of it, at least.

Dreaming of springtime,
Crystal Bucher


Average last frost date in my region is March 6, but I don't ever trust that as
anything can happen. We safely go with March 15-20. For sure by March 30.


I think I read that here in Nashville (Zone 6b), last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.
Just this week, we got 7 inches of snow just a hour SOUTH of here.
Nashville got nary a flake.

What hurts us is the late March hard frost that we always seem to get.
It occurs right at the peak of marigold bloomings. Usually screws
things up good, especially since mid-March is usually quite warm.
That's why I usually wait until mid-April to do my serious spring
pruning.
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Old 19-02-2004, 05:53 PM
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:30:16 -0600, dave weil opined:

I think I read that here in Nashville (Zone 6b), last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.
Just this week, we got 7 inches of snow just a hour SOUTH of here.
Nashville got nary a flake.

What hurts us is the late March hard frost that we always seem to get.
It occurs right at the peak of marigold bloomings. Usually screws
things up good, especially since mid-March is usually quite warm.
That's why I usually wait until mid-April to do my serious spring
pruning.


Not all serious pruning should be done in the spring. You may know this, but
some may not. Pruning shrubs and trees which bloom in spring should be pruned
after blooming or you remove the flower buds. Roses can be pruned in February
in the south, or mid-south. I'm not sure about higher north. I never grew
roses up north.

Currently, in my garden things are blooming. Lantana is still blooming in some
spots, yarrow, bluebonnets, catnip, Rosemary...etc. All of the petunias are in
full spread bloom, so are the larkspur.
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Old 19-02-2004, 05:55 PM
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:30:16 -0600, dave weil opined:

I think I read that here in Nashville (Zone 6b), last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.
Just this week, we got 7 inches of snow just a hour SOUTH of here.
Nashville got nary a flake.

What hurts us is the late March hard frost that we always seem to get.
It occurs right at the peak of marigold bloomings. Usually screws
things up good, especially since mid-March is usually quite warm.
That's why I usually wait until mid-April to do my serious spring
pruning.


Not all serious pruning should be done in the spring. You may know this, but
some may not. Pruning shrubs and trees which bloom in spring should be pruned
after blooming or you remove the flower buds. Roses can be pruned in February
in the south, or mid-south. I'm not sure about higher north. I never grew
roses up north.

Currently, in my garden things are blooming. Lantana is still blooming in some
spots, yarrow, bluebonnets, catnip, Rosemary...etc. All of the petunias are in
full spread bloom, so are the larkspur.


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Old 19-02-2004, 06:29 PM
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:32:03 GMT, escapee
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:30:16 -0600, dave weil opined:

I think I read that here in Nashville (Zone 6b), last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.
Just this week, we got 7 inches of snow just a hour SOUTH of here.
Nashville got nary a flake.

What hurts us is the late March hard frost that we always seem to get.
It occurs right at the peak of marigold bloomings. Usually screws
things up good, especially since mid-March is usually quite warm.
That's why I usually wait until mid-April to do my serious spring
pruning.


Not all serious pruning should be done in the spring. You may know this, but
some may not. Pruning shrubs and trees which bloom in spring should be pruned
after blooming or you remove the flower buds. Roses can be pruned in February
in the south, or mid-south. I'm not sure about higher north. I never grew
roses up north.


I was only referring to roses. And I was specifically speaking of
spring pruning, which is 99.6% of my rose pruning (with the exception
of the occasional one-off pruning of dead wood or special situation
pruning). The only plant I have that gets pruned after blooming in the
early summer is my Sweet Briar Rose. Everything else I have is either
a climber or more than once blooming. But I wouldn't prune my roses in
mid-February because I'd just have to prune again in April. We have
several deep frosts to go and a few light ones as well. I was just
down to 29 the other night, for example. We'll get a good hard frost
usually in the third or fourth week of March. And I'm in the
"mid-south".

Currently, in my garden things are blooming. Lantana is still blooming in some
spots, yarrow, bluebonnets, catnip, Rosemary...etc. All of the petunias are in
full spread bloom, so are the larkspur.



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Old 19-02-2004, 06:29 PM
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:32:03 GMT, escapee
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:30:16 -0600, dave weil opined:

I think I read that here in Nashville (Zone 6b), last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.
Just this week, we got 7 inches of snow just a hour SOUTH of here.
Nashville got nary a flake.

What hurts us is the late March hard frost that we always seem to get.
It occurs right at the peak of marigold bloomings. Usually screws
things up good, especially since mid-March is usually quite warm.
That's why I usually wait until mid-April to do my serious spring
pruning.


Not all serious pruning should be done in the spring. You may know this, but
some may not. Pruning shrubs and trees which bloom in spring should be pruned
after blooming or you remove the flower buds. Roses can be pruned in February
in the south, or mid-south. I'm not sure about higher north. I never grew
roses up north.


I was only referring to roses. And I was specifically speaking of
spring pruning, which is 99.6% of my rose pruning (with the exception
of the occasional one-off pruning of dead wood or special situation
pruning). The only plant I have that gets pruned after blooming in the
early summer is my Sweet Briar Rose. Everything else I have is either
a climber or more than once blooming. But I wouldn't prune my roses in
mid-February because I'd just have to prune again in April. We have
several deep frosts to go and a few light ones as well. I was just
down to 29 the other night, for example. We'll get a good hard frost
usually in the third or fourth week of March. And I'm in the
"mid-south".

Currently, in my garden things are blooming. Lantana is still blooming in some
spots, yarrow, bluebonnets, catnip, Rosemary...etc. All of the petunias are in
full spread bloom, so are the larkspur.



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Old 19-02-2004, 07:08 PM
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:16:38 +0000, Crystal wrote:


When is the average last frost where you are? When I lived in Portland,
everyone believed that the last frost was always on Tax Day, April 15! Is
this a saying anywhere else? Now I live in Northern California, where
there's never any frost. Not in my corner of it, at least.

Dreaming of springtime,
Crystal Bucher



In Wisconsin the last frost is July 31. First frost, August 1.


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Old 19-02-2004, 07:17 PM
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:16:38 +0000, Crystal wrote:


When is the average last frost where you are? When I lived in Portland,
everyone believed that the last frost was always on Tax Day, April 15! Is
this a saying anywhere else? Now I live in Northern California, where
there's never any frost. Not in my corner of it, at least.

Dreaming of springtime,
Crystal Bucher



In Wisconsin the last frost is July 31. First frost, August 1.


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Old 19-02-2004, 08:31 PM
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last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.



The last AVERAGE frost date for our area is February 15. It seems that every
year the week leading up to the 15th is the coldest of the year. Often we will
have our first and only freeze that week.

This year it was beautiful the week prior, so we're having to pay for it this
week. It's been in the low 40's for the past two nights. DH said he saw some
frost on the roofs this morning, but I didn't see any damage on my frost meters
(impatients).

BTW, my roses are already all pruned. Even if we get some cold weather it
won't (shouldn't) be bad enough to cause any damage.



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Old 19-02-2004, 08:39 PM
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last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.



The last AVERAGE frost date for our area is February 15. It seems that every
year the week leading up to the 15th is the coldest of the year. Often we will
have our first and only freeze that week.

This year it was beautiful the week prior, so we're having to pay for it this
week. It's been in the low 40's for the past two nights. DH said he saw some
frost on the roofs this morning, but I didn't see any damage on my frost meters
(impatients).

BTW, my roses are already all pruned. Even if we get some cold weather it
won't (shouldn't) be bad enough to cause any damage.

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Old 19-02-2004, 08:51 PM
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last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.



The last AVERAGE frost date for our area is February 15. It seems that every
year the week leading up to the 15th is the coldest of the year. Often we will
have our first and only freeze that week.

This year it was beautiful the week prior, so we're having to pay for it this
week. It's been in the low 40's for the past two nights. DH said he saw some
frost on the roofs this morning, but I didn't see any damage on my frost meters
(impatients).

BTW, my roses are already all pruned. Even if we get some cold weather it
won't (shouldn't) be bad enough to cause any damage.

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Old 19-02-2004, 10:51 PM
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dave weil wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:12:24 GMT, escapee
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:16:38 GMT, Crystal opined:


When is the average last frost where you are? When I lived in
Portland, everyone believed that the last frost was always on Tax
Day, April 15! Is this a saying anywhere else? Now I live in
Northern California, where there's never any frost. Not in my
corner of it, at least.

Dreaming of springtime,
Crystal Bucher


Average last frost date in my region is March 6, but I don't ever trust that as
anything can happen. We safely go with March 15-20. For sure by March 30.


I think I read that here in Nashville (Zone 6b), last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.
Just this week, we got 7 inches of snow just a hour SOUTH of here.
Nashville got nary a flake.

What hurts us is the late March hard frost that we always seem to get.
It occurs right at the peak of marigold bloomings. Usually screws
things up good, especially since mid-March is usually quite warm.
That's why I usually wait until mid-April to do my serious spring
pruning.


Marigold bloomings in March? When do you plant your marigolds?

Farmers Almanac lists Nashville's last frost date as April 5, but my
neighbors don't put their tomatoes in until April 25. I'm usually a dare
devil and put them in around April 15.

It's beautiful here today. I hoed around the garlic (transplanting some
of the chickweed from my neighbor's garden to mine) while he tilled. A
very pleasant hour and probably more productive than my removing moss
for my garden and transplanting it to the mossy front yard.

Kate
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dave weil wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:12:24 GMT, escapee
wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 21:16:38 GMT, Crystal opined:


When is the average last frost where you are? When I lived in
Portland, everyone believed that the last frost was always on Tax
Day, April 15! Is this a saying anywhere else? Now I live in
Northern California, where there's never any frost. Not in my
corner of it, at least.

Dreaming of springtime,
Crystal Bucher


Average last frost date in my region is March 6, but I don't ever trust that as
anything can happen. We safely go with March 15-20. For sure by March 30.


I think I read that here in Nashville (Zone 6b), last frost date is
usually considered either 7 or 12 April. For the last couple of years,
I don't remember a frost in April at all. But you never know about
these things. Growing up in Memphis, we got the largest snowfall in
recorded history on April 18th (I think). It was 18 inches back around
'68. I'm sure Nashville got plastered as well. It was a funny thing.
Just this week, we got 7 inches of snow just a hour SOUTH of here.
Nashville got nary a flake.

What hurts us is the late March hard frost that we always seem to get.
It occurs right at the peak of marigold bloomings. Usually screws
things up good, especially since mid-March is usually quite warm.
That's why I usually wait until mid-April to do my serious spring
pruning.


Marigold bloomings in March? When do you plant your marigolds?

Farmers Almanac lists Nashville's last frost date as April 5, but my
neighbors don't put their tomatoes in until April 25. I'm usually a dare
devil and put them in around April 15.

It's beautiful here today. I hoed around the garlic (transplanting some
of the chickweed from my neighbor's garden to mine) while he tilled. A
very pleasant hour and probably more productive than my removing moss
for my garden and transplanting it to the mossy front yard.

Kate
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Old 19-02-2004, 11:10 PM
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kate wrote:

... but my
neighbors don't put their tomatoes in until April 25. I'm usually a dare
devil and put them in around April 15...



If your first planting of tomatoes doesn't freeze occasionally you
aren't putting them in early enough. Push the envelope (but provide them
some protection). (Also, plan on a couple different plantings of
tomatoes).

[Here in MA, we've had frost as late as Memorial day and as early as the
week before Labor day, so think of us while you're planting]
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