Considering a rose
 

Thank you for the image. :)

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:47:53 -0500 (EST), "Shiva"
wrote, speaking of Don Juan:

a medium, very clear red that does not blue into magenta
over time,

I WILL say that mine seems to go toward black as it ages (and when it
first starts to unfold).

http://www.pbase.com/teleburst/image/20165861

It's a very cool velvety black though.