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On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 20:47:16 GMT, wrote:
On 26 Apr 2003 09:14:42 GMT, wrote:

i)
3. Evidence on the impact of land reform in Zimbabwe
A panel survey of resettlement households started in
1983 shows clearly that resettled households' well-being
has improved dramatically over the past 20 years
ii)
The 70,000 households which have so far benefited from land
redistribution, represent about 5% of the peasant farmer,
but produce between 15 population and 20% of the marketed
output of maize and cotton, while also largely satisfying
their own food consumption needs (Moyo, 1995).
iii)
Redistribution efforts so far (3.2 million ha) have had no
negative impact on large-scale commercial farm output, given
the extent of underutilization of arable land in the large-scale
commercial farm sector.

Well there are short term benefits in enabling families to employ
themselves in subsistance farming.

Terrible news!
(to the racist whites in these NGs)

This is a rather dishonest comment, to say the least. Clearly Mr.
Glur wants us to believe that the short-term effects of violent,
uncompensated transfers of land from competent farmers to incompetent
thugs are somehow merely the long-term effects of orderly and
compensated transfers from larger to smaller competent farmers.

Yes. Dishonesty exists all around.
The white incompetent thugs who - violently and with no
compensation offered - grabbed the ancestral lands in africa
did not have a background in farming. The native
pastoralists who are reclaiming their ancestral lands will
re-discover their pastoral roots that were violently
uprooted by, among other knaves, a rat named cecil_rhodes.
And they are doing admirably well.

Should humanity COMPENSATE crime or the criminals who
grabbed the ancestral lands with NO COMPENSATION? Men of
goodwill would suggest that the natives deserve rents,
restitution and revenge.

Thugs are not to be rewarded for their dastardly deeds.

The land-grabbing white cutthroats also had a track record
in murder, rape, poisoning and trading in human misery.
Can/Does humanity overlook the crimes of murder and fraud?
Do we observe any time limits on these? Men of goodwill
would suggest that the natives deserve just revenge, just
retribution. Surely we asserted these rights in Afghanistan
after the events of September 11, 2001!

How about the particular crime of slave trade? The Jews are
heavily compensated for same! Why shouldn't the african?

Dishonest indeed.





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Well there are short term benefits in enabling families to employ
themselves in subsistance farming.

Terrible news!
(to the racist whites in these NGs)

I note that reverting to subsistance farming is always people on newsgroups
advocate for others. You never see them give up their comfortable existance
to do it themselves.


This is a rather dishonest comment, to say the least. Clearly Mr.
Glur wants us to believe that the short-term effects of violent,
uncompensated transfers of land from competent farmers to incompetent
thugs are somehow merely the long-term effects of orderly and
compensated transfers from larger to smaller competent farmers.

Yes. Dishonesty exists all around.
The white incompetent thugs who - violently and with no
compensation offered - grabbed the ancestral lands in africa
did not have a background in farming. The native
pastoralists who are reclaiming their ancestral lands will
re-discover their pastoral roots that were violently
uprooted by, among other knaves, a rat named cecil_rhodes.
And they are doing admirably well.

Should humanity COMPENSATE crime or the criminals who
grabbed the ancestral lands with NO COMPENSATION? Men of
goodwill would suggest that the natives deserve rents,
restitution and revenge.

Thugs are not to be rewarded for their dastardly deeds.

The land-grabbing white cutthroats also had a track record
in murder, rape, poisoning and trading in human misery.
Can/Does humanity overlook the crimes of murder and fraud?
Do we observe any time limits on these? Men of goodwill
would suggest that the natives deserve just revenge, just
retribution. Surely we asserted these rights in Afghanistan
after the events of September 11, 2001!

How about the particular crime of slave trade? The Jews are
heavily compensated for same! Why shouldn't the african?

why not the Russians, who were shipped in large numbers into Egypt?

Jim Webster

I don't know why they need more land! Some of the most fertile soil in South
Africa lies in the hand of the black community. There is irrigation schemes
you name it, all set up for prosperous farming. Before it was given to the
black white people lived there and had thriving farming activities going on.
There is absolutely no agricultural activities there, all the land is just
lying there. Maybe they should first start using the land they do have and
then look to get more land. No help looking at other prosperous farmers and
say it is all apartheids fault while meantime it is their own stupid fault
that they are in the position they are in!

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 20:47:16 GMT, wrote:
On 26 Apr 2003 09:14:42 GMT, wrote:

i)
3. Evidence on the impact of land reform in Zimbabwe
A panel survey of resettlement households started in
1983 shows clearly that resettled households' well-being
has improved dramatically over the past 20 years
ii)
The 70,000 households which have so far benefited from land
redistribution, represent about 5% of the peasant farmer,
but produce between 15 population and 20% of the marketed
output of maize and cotton, while also largely satisfying
their own food consumption needs (Moyo, 1995).
iii)
Redistribution efforts so far (3.2 million ha) have had no
negative impact on large-scale commercial farm output, given
the extent of underutilization of arable land in the large-scale
commercial farm sector.

Well there are short term benefits in enabling families to employ
themselves in subsistance farming.

Terrible news!
(to the racist whites in these NGs)

This is a rather dishonest comment, to say the least. Clearly Mr.
Glur wants us to believe that the short-term effects of violent,
uncompensated transfers of land from competent farmers to incompetent
thugs are somehow merely the long-term effects of orderly and
compensated transfers from larger to smaller competent farmers.

Yes. Dishonesty exists all around.
The white incompetent thugs who - violently and with no
compensation offered - grabbed the ancestral lands in africa
did not have a background in farming. The native
pastoralists who are reclaiming their ancestral lands will
re-discover their pastoral roots that were violently
uprooted by, among other knaves, a rat named cecil_rhodes.
And they are doing admirably well.

Should humanity COMPENSATE crime or the criminals who
grabbed the ancestral lands with NO COMPENSATION? Men of
goodwill would suggest that the natives deserve rents,
restitution and revenge.

Thugs are not to be rewarded for their dastardly deeds.

The land-grabbing white cutthroats also had a track record
in murder, rape, poisoning and trading in human misery.
Can/Does humanity overlook the crimes of murder and fraud?
Do we observe any time limits on these? Men of goodwill
would suggest that the natives deserve just revenge, just
retribution. Surely we asserted these rights in Afghanistan
after the events of September 11, 2001!

How about the particular crime of slave trade? The Jews are
heavily compensated for same! Why shouldn't the african?

Dishonest indeed.





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