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Old 19-12-2002, 05:46 PM
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Mad Cow Disease / Mad Deer Disease

- http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow.htm


This appears to be a US website and appears to lack any depth of
knowledge of BSE


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Old 19-12-2002, 06:30 PM
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Lotus wrote in message
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Mad Cow Disease / Mad Deer Disease

- http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow.htm


This appears to be a US website and appears to lack any depth of
knowledge of BSE


Anything to cast doubt, eh Jim.

Here are just some of the links at this excellent site;

Mad Cow Europe

a.. 11/10 McDonald's 'disastrous year' blamed in part on mad cow
b.. 10/31 Patients in CJD blunder facing 20 years of dread
c.. 10/26 Hopes are revived for CJD drug
d.. 10/22 First human case of mad cow disease found in Italy
e.. 10/21 What the government isn't telling you about mad deer disease
f.. 10/12 This year worst on record for mad cow disease in Ireland
g.. 10/11 Mad cow meat 'went into millions of burgers'
h.. 10/11 Danger meat was 'fed to children for up to 15 years'
i.. 10/10 Number of mad cows underestimated by almost a million
j.. 10/9 German test for mad cow disease effective in 15 minutes
k.. 10/6 Builders test use of animal ash in making houses
l.. 10/3 France lifts ban on British beef after six-year dispute
m.. 10/2 Japanese agriculture minister sued over mad cow disease
n.. 9/28 EU: 25 year old woman first victim of mad cow disease in Italy
o.. 9/8 Worries remain in Japan over BSE one year later
p.. 9/4 Slaughterhouse anti-BSE measures flaunted 16 years later
q.. 8/29 Japan Traces Mad Cow Outbreak to Calf Feed
r.. 8/26 Europe may ban sheep intestine containing haggis
s.. 8/23 Health officials confirm Japan's 5th mad cow disease case
t.. 8/9 Noxious byproduct of mad cow disease haunts France
u.. 7/22 Mad cow disease blamed for 64 bankrupsies in Japan
v.. 6/20 First case of human mad cow disease in South Africa
w.. 6/14 Sheep's intestines ban could spell end for British banger
x.. 6/5 First case of mad cow confirmed in Israel
y.. 5/23 Beef find in Dutch poultry raises mad cow fears
z.. 5/15 British government BSE adviser warns about European beef
aa.. 5/13 Japanese vet commits suicide after detecting fourth mad cow
ab.. 5/13 New Japan mad cow fear
ac.. 5/4 First case of mad-cow disease discovered in Poland
ad.. 4/15 BSE advisers to meet in public in anti-secrecy drive
ae.. 4/12 France condemned after BSE discovered
af.. 4/3 Mad cow report slams Japanese farm ministry
ag.. 3/29 Continued mad cow rise in Ireland threatens beef trade
ah.. 3/26 McDonald's stock prices drops for sixth straight quarter
ai.. 3/25 Scandals cause Japanese to lose their appetites
aj.. 3/24 Mad cow report incenses Japanese agro-interests
ak.. 3/18 Cases of BSE-infected cattle rise in Portugal
al.. 3/18 Italy has tested over 600,000 animals for mad cow
am.. 3/16 France snubs call to end mad cow disease beef ban
an.. 3/11 Britain can't sell its beef even after ban is ended
ao.. 3/9 Mad cow blamed as Japan sinks further into recession
ap.. 3/3 Japan scandal hits Mcdonald's
aq.. 3/1 British investigation into feed imports
ar.. 2/26 Mad cow disease cannot be inherited by calves, study finds
as.. 2/22 Japanese meat company to shut down amid labeling scandal
at.. 2/18 Review of mad cow history from dean of Brown U Med
au.. 2/16 Fourth human fatality in France from mad cow disease
av.. 2/16 Government should support consumers, not farmers
aw.. 2/16 Japanese government mad cow scandal eroded public trust
ax.. 2/16 Eleven more cases of BSE in past week in Ireland
ay.. 2/14 Italian bone meal possible cause of Japan's mad cow disease
az.. 2/11 Mad cow panic halves beef purchases in Japan
ba.. 2/5 Support for Japanese leader plunges
bb.. 2/5 Tokyo reels from latest mad cow disease scandal
bc.. 2/5 Japan Parliament rejects no-confidence against ag minister
bd.. 2/4 Tons of beef to be destroyed in Germany after faulty tests
be.. 2/4 Cliquey Japanese meat dept kept scam quiet
bf.. 1/25 Mad cows born after feed curbs cause concern
bg.. 1/15 Mad cow meat in human food chain
bh.. 1/6 Concern expressed at high level of Irish mad cow disease
bi.. 1/6 Older Japanese cows have nowhere to go
bj.. 1/3 Mad cow disease scare in Japan continues to spread
bk.. 12/29 France continues to block British beef exports
bl.. 12/29 France set to overtake Britain in new BSE cases
bm.. 12/26 Top Japanese officials resign over 'mad cow'
bn.. 12/25 Japan must take rapid, radical steps to fight mad cow
bo.. 12/24 British scientists widen BSE checks to deer
bp.. 12/18 Sweden investigates suspected first case of mad cow
bq.. 12/15 Blair presses French to lift ban on beef
br.. 12/14 Japan to incinerate 25 million pounds of stored beef
bs.. 12/13 Human folly created mad cow disease
bt.. 12/12 All of European Union now affected except for Sweden
bu.. 12/10 First case of mad cow disease discovered in Austria
bv.. 12/8 UK 'fails to record full extent of BSE'
bw.. 12/7 First case of mad cow disease found in Finland
bx.. 12/6 Mad cow hammers Japan's restaurateur
by.. 12/1 Label error led to brains mix-up in mad cow study
bz.. 12/1 3rd Japanese cow tested positive for mad cow disease
ca.. 11/30 Ireland records highest monthly mad cow tally ever
cb.. 11/28 Is there a hidden sheep epidemic of mad cow disease?
cc.. 11/27 Report: Paris slow to respond to mad cow disease
cd.. 11/23 Japan to slaughter, burn 5,100 cattle to calm fears
ce.. 11/21 Anti-mad cow steps at trial-error stage in Japan
cf.. 11/20 Second Japanese mad cow may have eaten same milk replacer
cg.. 11/15 11 cows killed in Slovakia today after 3rd confirmed case
ch.. 11/14 Traces of bonemeal in flour prompt Swiss investigation
ci.. 11/13 Australia implementing stronger feed ban
cj.. 11/8 Mad cow disease may be far more widespread than reported
ck.. 11/8 McDonald's Japan slashes year forecast due to mad cow
cl.. 11/4 In Japan, Beef Business Sinks in a Sea of Skepticism
cm.. 11/2 Are British lamb chops infectious or not?
cn.. 10/28 The British meat industry used evasion and obfuscation
co.. 10/22 Under pressure to explain BSE test blunder
cp.. 10/21 BSE sheep warnings ignored for years
cq.. 10/21 Sunday Times editorial on BSE-sheep blunder
cr.. 10/21 Anger at cover-up of BSE blunder
cs.. 10/20 Worry over giving British lamb to children
ct.. 10/20 British Ministry ignored two-day test for mad cow disease
cu.. 10/20 60% of Japanese housewives found they won't eat beef
cv.. 10/19 Organic farming: 20% increase in global sales in 2001
cw.. 10/17 Japanese Govt urged to buy, destroy suspect beef
cx.. 10/17 Quarter of Japanese stop eating beef after BSE found: poll
cy.. 10/7 Recall of cow brain, eyeball, marrow and intestine products
cz.. 10/7 Editorial: Officials must act to regain lost trust
da.. 10/4 Slovakia Says First Case of Mad Cow Confirmed
db.. 10/3 Japan Ministers stage meat feast to allay consumers' fears
dc.. 10/2 Japanese government to discourage beef by-products
dd.. 9/30 Germans shunning schnitzel-4,000 new vegetarians each week
de.. 9/30 Mad cow disease called 'just desserts for human beings'
df.. 9/28 Worst case plan for BSE would doom 40 million sheep
dg.. 9/27 Mad Cow Disease Sets Off a Scare in Japan
dh.. 9/24 Over 2,000 Japanese cattle may have been fed infected meal
di.. 9/21 French ban on UK beef ruled illegal by European court
dj.. 9/21 Mad cow may spell the end for cow intestine delicacy in Japan
dk.. 9/21 Mad cow scare moves 1,765 schools to drop beef from meals
dl.. 9/20 Japan to test 1 million cattle for 'Mad Cow'
dm.. 9/20 First case of mad cow disease suspected in Sweden
dn.. 9/19 Continental Europe faces rise in cases of mad-cow disease
do.. 9/16 Cattle cull to cost each household pounds 1,000 in tax
dp.. 9/12 Japanese govt must act fast to counter mad cow disease
dq.. 9/10 First case of mad cow disease found in Japan
dr.. 9/7 Advice for travelers to Europe
ds.. 8/28 British foot and mouth flare-up spreads
dt.. 8/28 10,000 cattle to be examined for mad cow disease in Japan
du.. Autumn, 2001 Mad Cow Disease is Killing Europe's Pets
dv.. 8/24 Germany set to deliver 6,000 tons of beef to North Korea

dw.. 8/23 CJD alert brings safety check on blood supplies
dx.. 8/20 Meat industry denies role in spread of BSE
dy.. 8/19 France: 'Mad-cow' scare worries travelers
dz.. 8/18 Matadors see red over mad cow meat ban
ea.. 8/12 Unlike U.S., mass testing eyed for mad cow disease in Japan
eb.. 8/10 Shadow of 'mad cow' casts gloom on Czech farms
ec.. 8/10 Conversion to organics seen as a 'devastating indictment'
ed.. 8/7 Soil Association report: 'Organic food is better for you'
ee.. 8/4 Eat more lamb, Britons to be told despite warning
ef.. 8/2 Review blames mad cow outbreak origin on calf feed
eg.. 8/2 Pressure grows over US mad cow disease blood ban
eh.. 8/1 'Tissue digesters' breakthrough in cattle disposal
ei.. 7/31 Dutch cattle farmers switch to organic farming
ej.. 7/30 Mad Cows, glad bulls: How BSE threatened bullfighting
ek.. 7/30 French farmer Jose Bove investigated for mad cow defamation
el.. 7/27 BSE origin: the end of a mystery?
em.. 7/24 McDonald's takes third straight quarterly hit from mad cow
en.. 7/23 Intensive stock raising means society may pay price
eo.. 7/19 Scrapie agent may be behind mad cow disease: UK report
ep.. 7/17 Spanish bullfighters see red over mad cow measures
eq.. 7/17 Swiss cat diagnosed with feline form of mad cow disease
er.. 7/6 'The end of agricultural policy as we have known it'
es.. 7/6 World Health Organisation says BSE is a major threat
et.. 7/5 Be mindful of 'mad cow' on European trip
eu.. 7/4 EU scientists release new guidelines on BSE v
ev.. 7/3 First mad cow case confirmed in Greece
ew.. 6/4 How Britain spawned a global epidemic
ex.. 6/3 Could mad cow strike the United States?
ey.. 6/1 Factory farming and human health
ez.. previous articles

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Old 19-12-2002, 07:14 PM
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"Lotus" wrote in message
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"Jim Webster" wrote in message

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Lotus wrote in message
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Mad Cow Disease / Mad Deer Disease

- http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow.htm


This appears to be a US website and appears to lack any depth of
knowledge of BSE


Anything to cast doubt, eh Jim.

Here are just some of the links at this excellent site;

Mad Cow Europe

a.. 11/10 McDonald's 'disastrous year' blamed in part on mad cow
b.. 10/31 Patients in CJD blunder facing 20 years of dread


snipping for brevity

ew.. 6/4 How Britain spawned a global epidemic
ex.. 6/3 Could mad cow strike the United States?
ey.. 6/1 Factory farming and human health
ez.. previous articles


Mad cow in America

Zero.

That's that disease mainly in England, right? And we have this rather large
body of water between us, right?

Let's have another beer.






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http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/.../cwdmdce.shtml
....
It is not certain how Chronic wasting disease CWD is transmitted, but based
on experience with the disease in captive deer species in facilities in the
states of Colorado and Wyoming, both lateral (animal to animal) and maternal
(mother to offspring) transmission may be possible. The most likely means of transmission is
between animals that are in close contact with each other. The epidemiology
supports the lateral transmission as the major mode of transmission as most
affected animals in the Colorado and Wyoming facilities were unrelated. In
addition, the elk and mule deer placed in paddocks that had housed infected
cervids for many years, became infected, even though there were no other
cervids on the premises, leading to the assumption that the environment of
a facility could transmit the disease. There were a few cases of CWD in
offspring of dams which developed the disease but it was not possible to
rule out lateral transmission.

Is there a risk to human health?
There is currently no scientific evidence that CWD affects humans, but we
must exercise caution since there is some evidence to suggest that BSE can
affect humans, which is another TSE also known as mad cow disease.
....

Michael wrote:

"Lotus" wrote in message
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"Jim Webster" wrote in message

...

Lotus wrote in message
...
Mad Cow Disease / Mad Deer Disease

- http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow.htm

This appears to be a US website and appears to lack any depth of
knowledge of BSE


Anything to cast doubt, eh Jim.

Here are just some of the links at this excellent site;

Mad Cow Europe

a.. 11/10 McDonald's 'disastrous year' blamed in part on mad cow
b.. 10/31 Patients in CJD blunder facing 20 years of dread


snipping for brevity

ew.. 6/4 How Britain spawned a global epidemic
ex.. 6/3 Could mad cow strike the United States?
ey.. 6/1 Factory farming and human health
ez.. previous articles


Mad cow in America

Zero.

That's that disease mainly in England, right? And we have this rather large
body of water between us, right?

Let's have another beer.

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Old 19-12-2002, 08:04 PM
 
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This is fantastic, it has the capacity of changing names depending what
species is affecting. jajajajaja
No mad cow humans, just Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.

This deer transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE), however, apparently
has shown that injestion of contaminated tissues is NOT required for transmission.
I see it potentially more dangerous than the Mad Cow strains. Maybe contact
with contaminated fecal particles is enough.
But lets just wait for 10 or 15 years for the incubation period to show me wrong,
lets do nothing.

Deer feces in my gardening organic soil?


____________
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/.../cwdmdce.shtml
....
It is not certain how Chronic wasting disease CWD is transmitted, but based
on experience with the disease in captive deer species in facilities in the
states of Colorado and Wyoming, both lateral (animal to animal) and maternal
(mother to offspring) transmission may be possible. The most likely means of
transmission is between animals that are in close contact with each other.
The epidemiology supports the lateral transmission as the major mode of
transmission as most affected animals in the Colorado and Wyoming facilities
were unrelated. In addition, the elk and mule deer placed in paddocks that
had housed infected cervids for many years, became infected, even though there
were no other cervids on the premises, leading to the assumption that the
environment of a facility could transmit the disease. There were a few cases
of CWD in offspring of dams which developed the disease but it was not possible
to rule out lateral transmission.

Is there a risk to human health?
There is currently no scientific evidence that CWD affects humans, but we
must exercise caution since there is some evidence to suggest that BSE can
affect humans, which is another TSE also known as mad cow disease.
....


"Jim Webster" wrote in message

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Lotus wrote in message
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Mad Cow Disease / Mad Deer Disease

- http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow.htm


This appears to be a US website and appears to lack any depth of
knowledge of BSE




I found it full of good links. And good luck with your burger.


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"Michael" wrote in message
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"Lotus" wrote in message
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"Jim Webster" wrote in message

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Lotus wrote in message
...
Mad Cow Disease / Mad Deer Disease

- http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow.htm

This appears to be a US website and appears to lack any depth of
knowledge of BSE


Anything to cast doubt, eh Jim.

Here are just some of the links at this excellent site;

Mad Cow Europe

a.. 11/10 McDonald's 'disastrous year' blamed in part on mad cow
b.. 10/31 Patients in CJD blunder facing 20 years of dread


snipping for brevity

ew.. 6/4 How Britain spawned a global epidemic
ex.. 6/3 Could mad cow strike the United States?
ey.. 6/1 Factory farming and human health
ez.. previous articles


Mad cow in America

Zero.


Don't look, and you won't find.

That's that disease mainly in England, right? And we have this rather large
body of water between us, right?

Let's have another beer.


Enjoy a few whilst perusing this. (you obviously didn't even
follow the link, so I doubt you will actually read any article).

Mad Cow / Mad Deer USA / Canada

a.. 11/9 Permanent import ban imposed on deer and elk in Oregon
b.. 11/9 Wisconsin extends emergency CWD rules
c.. 11/5 U.S. FDA to study deer disease risk to humans
d.. 11/5 Quick test for wasting disease OK'd in Colorado
e.. 11/3 Illinois on alert after first case of CWD found
f.. 11/3 Expert: Will Take Decades before We Know if Humans Get It
g.. 11/3 Nobel Laureate: Mad Cow 'Must' be in the U.S.
h.. 11/3 General Accounting Office Criticizes U.S. Mad Cow Policy
i.. 11/2 Florida family stricken by mad cow disease go public
j.. 11/1 Consumer Reports: Consumers May Want to Abstain from Venison
k.. 10/27 Eating venison compared to 'Russian roulette'
l.. 10/25 Wisconsin Medical Society recommends hunters use disposable knives
m.. 10/24 CWD, food safety tests not same, DNR says
n.. 10/21 'Most Reasonable Assumption' is CWD Can Be Transmitted
o.. 10/20 CWD found on a second Wisconsin game farm
p.. 10/20 In depth review of Wisconsin's CWD crisis
q.. 10/20 Mad Deer Disease Could Infect Humans
r.. 10/17 CDC to investigate human case of mad cow in Florida
s.. 10/17 Hunters Aren't Getting Good Advice
t.. 10/14 Don't Take CWD Lightly, Widower Warns
u.. 10/13 Texas considers restricting deer transport
v.. 10/13 Millions more allocated for Wisconsin's battle with CWD
w.. 10/11 Lax Oversight may have Led to CWD in Minnesota
x.. 10/11 Experimental test used in Colorado considered more reliable
y.. 10/11 Don't Eat Venison, Doctor Says
z.. 10/11 Prions are the punch behind CWD
aa.. 10/10 New regulations for deer butchers sought
ab.. 10/9 Medical Society Calls for Regulation of Deer Butchers
ac.. 10/8 Vet Criticizes Wisconsin's Handling of CWD
ad.. 10/7 Editorial argues Bush administration not doing enough
ae.. 10/7 Poll: MN Hunters are worried about chronic wasting disease
af.. 10/6 Chicago Tribune Magazine's coverage of chronic wasting
ag.. 10/6 Wisconsin hunters violating deer baiting ban
ah.. 10/4 Denver Post editorial: 'CWD precautions needed'
ai.. 10/4 Mandatory double fences around game ranches recommended
aj.. 10/4 Eradication zone deer testing negative will go to landfill
ak.. 10/3 Wisconsin Accused of "Peddling Cheap Public Relations."
al.. 10/2 Westernmost case of CWD found in Colorado


a.. 9/30 Chronic wasting disease spreads in Colorado
b.. 9/29 More Wisconsin game farm quarantines expected
c.. 9/25 Wisconsin Representative blasts Bush administration
d.. 9/25 A 'negative' CWD test doesn't necessarily mean meat is safe
e.. 9/25 Infected wild elk found in Colorado's Western Slope
f.. 9/25 - Mad Deer Crisis in Wisconsin Continues
g.. 9/24 A chronology of chronic wasting disease in Wisconsin
h.. 9/23 Deadly Game? People magazine weighs in on CWD
i.. 9/22 Can people be carriers of chronic wasting disease?
j.. 9/22 CWD perspective from New York State
k.. 9/22 Expert: CWD 'Might be 21st century's AIDS epidemic'
l.. 9/21 Wisconsin game farms put in quarantine
m.. 9/21 Wisconsin governor takes up bow to quell fears
n.. 9/20 First captive deer case of CWD found in Wisconsin
o.. 9/19 Food pantries all across state sign up to take donated deer
p.. 9/19 Wisconsin DNR urges food pantries to take deer
q.. 9/19 - Cattlemen Lose Food Slander Case Against Oprah Winfrey & Howard Lyman
r.. 9/17 CWD Public Service Announcement
s.. 9/14 Wisconsin deer eradication plan continues
t.. 9/12 Canadians at Risk for Mad Cow Disease
u.. 9/11 Rendering companies bid to feed infected deer to livestock
v.. 9/9 New 'rapid' chronic wasting disease tests on the horizon
w.. 9/8 Reducing the risk of venison
x.. 9/6 Gubernatorial candidate chows down on deer for the cameras
y.. 9/6 EPA concerned that CWD prions could get into the water
z.. 9/6 Autopsy of Montana elk hunter results pending
aa.. 9/5 State to incinerate carcasses in some areas but not others
ab.. 9/3 New York Times on the CWD crisis
ac.. 9/2 75% of Wisconsin residents less likely to eat venison
ad.. 9/1 The growth of the game farming industry in Wisconsin
ae.. 8/30 Winsconsin Attorney General charges Governor with 'cover-up'
af.. 8/30 - First chronic wasting case found in Minnesota
ag.. 8/30 - Butchers May Be Spreading Mad Deer Disease to Humans
ah.. 8/29 - Governor slams U.S. for delays in deer tests
ai.. 8/29 - Don't Look Don't Find-MI & MN Test for Mad Deer Disease
aj.. 8/27 - Landowners rebuff plan to kill deer
ak.. 8/14 - Bush kills new funds for deer disease
al.. 8/10 - Scientists say CWD unlikely to jump to humans, but other experts aren't so sure
am.. 8/10 - A look at chronic wasting disease in Wisconsin
an.. 8/9 - US: 8/9 Neurologists in Denver want to examine hunters
ao.. 8/7 - CWD carriers among us?
ap.. 8/7 - Variant of Mad Cow Hits US Midwest
aq.. 7/31 - Wisconsin Deaths May Be Linked to Mad Deer Epidemic
ar.. 7/28 - DNR pushes panic button with unpopular deer-eradication plan
as.. 7/25 - Overview of America's Spreading Mad Deer Disease Epidemic
at.. 7/21 - Did wild game feasts lead to fatal brain disorders?
au.. 7/20 - Did hunters create the conditions for this tragic epidemic?
av.. 7/20 Wisconsin's Mad Deer Epidemic- The Feed Connection
aw.. 7/15 Tougher anti-CWD rules sought for game farms
ax.. 6/20 First case of 'mad deer disease' found in New Mexico
ay.. 6/19 Wisconsin takes a stand: don't feed the deer
az.. 6/15 Chronic wasting disease could be 'big ailment' for economy
ba.. 6/15 Wisconsin wants to ban feeding of deer
bb.. 6/15 Where is the debate over methods to curb CWD?
bc.. 6/11 What to do with 25,000 carcasses?
bd.. 6/10 Crafting plan to fight deer ailment 'tough'
be.. 6/9 Wisconsin eradication hunt finally gets under way
bf.. Commentary on CWD Article in the Houston Chronicle by Dr. Thomas Pringle
bg.. 6/9 Where are Experts on Government CWD Panel?
bh.. 6/8 Concern raised about burying deer kill in landfills
bi.. 6/8 Dangers of Game Farming Put It at Forefront on CWD Scourge
bj.. 6/8 State Must Level with Us on Public Health Implications
bk.. 6/7 DNR says orphaned fawns should be killed, too
bl.. 6/7 NPR's Talk of the Nation on chronic wasting disease
bm.. 6/7 Commentary on Deer Supplement Feeding by John Stauber
bn.. 6/6 Sheep owners, USDA dispute Vermont sheep test results
bo.. 6/5 Chronic wasting disease creeping south in Colorado
bp.. 6/2 Texas takes steps to prevent chronic wasting disease
bq.. 6/2 Leading Researcher Places Blame Squarely on Game Farms
br.. 6/1 Government Response is Marked by Denial and Delay
bs.. 6/1 Wildlife vs. agricultu Elk ranching reignites duel
bt.. 6/1 Exposure to CWD is a death sentence for a game ranch
bu.. 5/24 Growing Plague Of "Mad Deer" Baffles Scientists
bv.. 5/23 We 'need to extensively test all farmed elk and deer'
bw.. 5/22 Call to extensively test deer, elk on Wisconsin game farms
bx.. 5/21 Wisconsin charity rejects gifts of venison
by.. 5/19 Testing facilties may not be ready by Fall
bz.. 5/19 Wisconsin outlines battle plan for chronic wasting disease
ca.. 5/18 Fears arise over helicopters in mass hunt
cb.. 5/18 Mad governor vs. mad deer in Wisconsin
cc.. 5/17 Dane County Board Acts While State Fumbles on CWD
cd.. 5/17 Mass extermination may spread the disease
ce.. 5/17 Humane Society calls for ban on deer and elk shipments
cf.. 5/17 Ohio 'on full alert' for chronic wasting disease
cg.. 5/16 Wisconsin DNR to get sweeping new powers
ch.. 5/16 Lawmakers free up millions to fight wasting disease
ci.. 5/16 Deer hunters group calls eradication proposal 'overkill'
cj.. 5/15 Massive Wisconsin deer kill doubtful before Fall
ck.. 5/14 Activists criticize state for not doing more
cl.. 5/14 Wisconsin agriculture department criticized over game farms
cm.. 5/12 Critics accuse Wisconsin DNR of jumping the gun
cn.. 5/12 Wisconsin works at plan to halt outbreak
co.. 5/12 Citizens Against Irrational Deer Slaughter forms
cp.. 5/11 Group forms to oppose mass deer kill
cq.. 5/10 s? Wait and see, panel decides
cr.. 5/10 Commentary on Wisconsin Crisis by Dr. Thomas Pringle
cs.. 5/9 Wisconsin Negligence 'Smacks of a State Cover-Up"
ct.. 5/8 Game Farms Bane Of Wildlife
cu.. 5/7 Wisconsin governor to call special session
cv.. 5/7 Deer could end up in sewer
cw.. 5/7 Wisconsin aggressive in handling of chronic wasting disease
cx.. 5/6 Peril and profit in bagging big antlers behind high fences
cy.. 5/6 Deer hunters could be spreading lethal prions
cz.. 5/6 Wisconsin residents fear deer slaughter 'war zone'
da.. 5/6 Wisconsin hunters face mass deer slaughter
db.. 5/6 Unprecedented deer kill could worsen the problem
dc.. 5/5 The big kill: will it work?
dd.. 5/5 CWD source unknown, but some point to the Dept. of Wildlife
de.. 5/5 CWD could undercut half billion dollar industry
df.. 5/5 Venison safety cannot be guaranteed
dg.. 5/3 Wildlife Expert 'Very Skeptical' of Mass Deer Cull
dh.. 5/3 Wisconsin plans to wipe out 25,000 deer
di.. 5/3 Beef lobby quashes downed animal protection
dj.. 5/1 Deer kill revs up critics in hot zone
dk.. 4/30 Lax Security at USDA Labs Putting Farms at Risk
dl.. 4/30 Systematic closure of Colorado game farms begun
dm.. 4/30 Laying the Blame on Deer and Elk Farms
dn.. 4/29 USA Today Plays Down Human Mad Cow Disease Cases in Michigan
do.. 4/28 Michigan brain-disease deaths 'unusual, disturbing'
dp.. 4/27 Chronic wasting disease looms as increasing problem
dq.. 4/26 Are Hunters Unknowingly Spreading the Disease?
dr.. 4/23 Eradicate wasting disease, FDA chief says
ds.. 4/23 Bovine Bioterrorism and the Perfect Pathogen
dt.. 4/21 Fears rise over chronic wasting disease's impact
du.. 4/19 Human 'Mad Cow' Case Found in U.S.
dv.. 4/14 Minnesota to test for chronic wasting disease
dw.. 4/14 Deer disease can't be ignored
dx.. 4/13 Colorado ranchers flee elk business
dy.. 4/11 Boulder County, Colorado: CWD hot spot
dz.. 4/11 USDA says two Vermont sheep tested positive
ea.. 4/11 How did Colorado's CWD program slip up?
eb.. 4/10 Worst fears realized as CWD jumps continental divide
ec.. 4/9 Deer hunters fear the unknown
ed.. 4/8 The Mad Deer Nightmare Is Just Beginning
ee.. 4/8 Federal Researcher Would't Eat Wisconsin's 'Mad Deer'
ef.. 4/8 Wisconsin Gearing Up for War
eg.. 4/7 Hunters debate whether or not to eat venison
eh.. 4/6 Wisconsin food pantries got lots of venison
ei.. 4/2 CWD a potential threat to Colorado's cattle industry
ej.. 4/2 New York Times article on chronic wasting disease
ek.. 4/1 Washington Post article on chronic wasting disease
el.. 3/31 Concerns about deer and elk disease still high
em.. 3/30 Colorado jump of wasting disease a peril to state's economy
en.. 3/30 Wasting illness hits unparalleled 50% of herd
eo.. 3/29 Boulder 'botches' deer disease issue
ep.. 3/28 Wisconsin may limit deer feeding practices
eq.. 3/27 A wasting disease outbreak in MN 'would be devastating'
er.. 3/24 Dairy state's whitetail deer herd threatened
es.. 3/24 Chronic wasting disease could lead to disaster in Wisconsin
et.. 3/24 End Game Ranching -- Immediately
eu.. 3/24 Millions of Europeans, tourists may have been exposed
ev.. 3/23 Attacking the scourge of chronic wasting disease
ew.. 3/23 Now Deer Are Really Mad
ex.. 3/21 Scientists are alarmed by chronic wasting disease
ey.. 3/21 Wisconsin session on chronic wasting disease evokes fears
ez.. 3/21 'you can't in good conscience let people eat venison'
fa.. 3/19 Rising harvest of Wisconsin carcasses being tested
fb.. 3/18 Canadian Cattlemen's Association letter criticized
fc.. 3/18 Report: 1998 memo urges state action against deer disease
fd.. 3/17 Chronic wasting disease could "spread like wildfire."
fe.. 3/17 'Watching this develop has been like a prairie fire'
ff.. 3/16 DNR launches offensive on chronic wasting disease
fg.. 3/16 Science, cowboy culture in High Plains showdown over elk
fh.. 3/16 700 deer in Wisconsin test area might be infected
fi.. 3/15 Ill deer: out of dying plan, into the pyre?
fj.. 3/14 "Mad deer disease" confirmed in national park
fk.. 3/14 Denver Post editorial: More at stake than deer
fl.. 3/14 Texas at risk for deadly chronic wasting disease
fm.. 3/14 Wisconsin asks hunters to shoot deer to test for disease
fn.. 3/11 Wisconson Faulted for Ignoring Deer Disease
fo.. 3/12 Boston Globe editorial: Mad-cow safeguards
fp.. 3/10 Wisconsin game farm owners, ranchers share illness concerns
fq.. 3/10 Wisconsin hunters "upbeat" despite deer ailment
fr.. 3/10 Minnesota Deer Hunters Association: stop deer baiting
fs.. 3/9 Wisconsin boosts deer kill to 500 animals
ft.. 3/9 Texas move on deer importing may be too late
fu.. 3/9 Deer Hunting editor's take on Wisconsin "time bomb"
fv.. 3/9 Testing to be required for chronic wasting disease
fw.. 3/8 Half of northeastern Nebrask deer herd may be killed
fx.. 3/8 1,000 more elk may be killed in Colorado
fy.. 3/8 Killing of Water Buffaloes Senseless
fz.. 3/8 Wisconsin Assembly, Senate pass bills on captive wildlife
ga.. 3/7 Wisconsin legislator urges steps to protect deer health
gb.. 3/4 20 million white-tailed deer placed "at risk"
gc.. 3/4 Wildlife experts talk to Wisconsin legislators about disease
gd.. 3/1 Mad Deer Disease Spreads into Wisconsin
ge.. 3/1 U.S. beef exports hurt by Japanese mad cow outbreak
gf.. 2/28 For first time, chronic wasting disease found in Wisconsin
gg.. 2/27 Watchdogs Blast U.S. Mad Cow Disease Enforcement
gh.. 2/27 Mad Cow Disease Defenses are Inadequate, GAO Says
gi.. 2/26 FDA Not Doing Enough to Prevent Mad Cow Disease?
gj.. 2/24 Chronic wasting disease confirmed in South Dakota wild herd
gk.. 2/24 Wasting disease can remain infectious in soil says expert
gl.. 2/22 Wildlife board approves plan to kill 4,500 deer
gm.. 2/22 Biologist lashes out at Canadian hunting practices
gn.. 2/22 Compromise reached in Canadian water buffalo case
go.. 2/21 Chronic wasting disease found in South Dakota
gp.. 2/19 Review of chronic wasting disease in Colorado newspaper
gq.. 2/19: 200 Colorado elk killed to contain mad cow-like disease
gr.. 2/17 Lions may be helping in CWD control efforts
gs.. 2/15 Activists question Colorado deer and elk cull plan
gt.. 2/14 Efforts to eliminate diseased elk continue in Colorado
gu.. 2/12 Tyson Foods found in violation of mad cow feed ban
gv.. 2/12 Grisly job of slaughtering elk herd continues
gw.. 2/11 Hunting farms urged for Alberta, Canada
gx.. 2/8 Officials to kill 350 elk at Colorado ranch
gy.. 2/8 Elk kill begins at ill-fated ranch
gz.. 2/7 U.S. May Have Imported Banned Beef
ha.. 2/7 Outlook bleak for future meatpacking plant
hb.. 2/6 U.S. beef consumer spending hits record $ 57 billion
hc.. 2/4 Nebraska deer disease could pose threat in South Dakota
hd.. 2/4 Fawns discovered with chronic wasting disease
he.. 2/3 Idaho becomes battleground for elk rancher's rules dispute
hf.. 2/2 Deadly quest to stop chronic wasting disease in Nebraska
hg.. 2/1 Tenth wild deer with CWD confirmed in Nebraska
hh.. previous articles


And more..
a.. 11/11 Mechanism by which prions kill brain cells found
b.. 11/4 New non-invasive diagnostic tool proposed for CJD
c.. 10/12 Growing concern about mad cow disease in the blood supply
d.. 10/11 'Low risk' of mad cow disease from vaccines
e.. 9/20 Analysis predicts possible 7,000 human deaths from mad cow
f.. 9/20 New vCJD predictions may be underestimated
g.. 8/10 More 'mad cow' deaths likely
h.. 8/9 Canadian Dies of Mad Cow Disease
i.. 8/8 Dissecting chronic wasting disease
j.. 8/6 Deer disease link to humans sought
k.. 8/3 New study finds more evidence mad cow disease can be transmitted through blood
l.. 6/8 Researchers hedge on public health implications of CWD
m.. 6/1 Did Venison Kill this Young Utah Hunter?
n.. 6/1 Parallels between Chronic Wasting Disease and Mad Cow
o.. 5/31 New mad cow blood donor limits take effect friday
p.. 5/31 - Is US Mad Deer Disease Infecting Humans?
q.. 5/31 Top Animal Doctor Says Eat Venison at Your Own Risk
r.. 5/26 A third of Wisconsin deer hunters may not hunt this Fall
s.. 5/25 Concerns raised over Wisconsin's 'Scorched Earth' Plan
t.. 5/18 New FDA rules could lead to shortages of blood in N.J.
u.. 5/11 Is an epidemic of CJD going undetected?5/11 Government body dismisses claims of mad cow
risk from milk
v.. 5/4 Balancing risks/benefits of single-use surgical instruments
w.. 5/4 Mother of tonsil surgery boy asks: Why did he die?
x.. 5/2 Did Minnesota Man Die from Eating Venison?
y.. 4/29 Humans may be vulnerable to chronic wasting disease
z.. 4/27 Deaths of two young Michigan men 'cause for alarm'
aa.. 4/22 Red Cross for-profit venture targets mad cow pathogens
ab.. - - Two Young Men in Michigan Die of a Suspicious Mad Cow-Like Disease
ac.. 4/19 NPR'S All Things Considered on Florida human mad cow case
ad.. 4/6 Mad cow rule may cut blood donors by 6%
ae.. - Mad Deer Disease May Spread to Humans
af.. 4/3 Researchers investigate heartbeat clue to mad cow disease
ag.. 4/2 Chinese mad cow cosmetics ban confuses industry
ah.. 3/31 British blood ban to curb human mad cow disease
ai.. 3/28 Human cases of mad cow doubling every three years
aj.. 3/27 Search for BSE in muscle meat draws blank
ak.. 3/26 Mad cow prions found to be able to grow in muscle
al.. 3/24 Millions of Europeans, tourists may have been exposed
am.. 3/19 Mad Cow Research Leads to Call for Quick Testing
an.. 3/15 Search for BSE type disease turns to fish farms
ao.. 3/14 CWD research a long, uphill fight
ap.. 3/14 China bans imported cosmetics over mad cow fears
aq.. 3/6 A British ban on lamb chops is being considered
ar.. 2/27 British water supplies could be contaminated with mad cow
as.. 2/22 Hong Kong woman becomes first in Asia to die of mad cow
at.. 2/21 Dentist refuses to treat family of CJD victim2/19 News release from business patenting
urine test
au.. 2/17 Ministers 'bury' alarming CJD infection report2/16: Courts likely to set CJD settlement
at 60 million yen
av.. February 2002 Mad Cow Disease: Is It Time to Go Vegetarian?
aw.. 2/15 BSE meat controls fail for third time this year in Britain
ax.. 2/11 Cattle ashes sparks fear of BSE pollution in water
ay.. 2/8 Second probable case of human mad cow disease hits Italy
az.. 2/8 Discovery of BSE cow dashes hopes of reducing controls
ba.. 2/6: First human case of mad cow disease in Italy
bb.. 2/4 Lone scientist implicates manganese in BSE and vCJD
bc.. 2/3 F.D.A. Urged to Drop Policy Barring Some Blood Donors
bd.. 1/29 World Animal Health Group: test sheep for mad cow
be.. 1/29 vCJD may have been passed on in blood
bf.. 1/27 Father attacks 'culture of greed' for mad cow stricken son
bg.. 1/16 Cosmetics buyers told not to get beauty from beasts
bh.. 1/15 To the last breath: Rachel Forber's father
bi.. 1/12 Mad mutton could be as big a threat as mad cows
bj.. 1/10 Scientists refuse to rule out epidemic of CJD from sheep
bk.. 1/9 Big death toll feared if mad-cow disease has infected sheep
bl.. 12/31 Time to review correlation between food, nature
bm.. 12/30 Researchers discover protein thought linked to cause
bn.. 12/18 Scientists examine CJD 'link' to polio vaccine
bo.. 12/15 Ban on re-using surgical tools lifted in tonsilectomies
bp.. 12/12 Gene may play role in vCJD susceptibility
bq.. 12/9 Avoid meat from abroad, warns top CJD expert
br.. 12/3 First human CJD 'guinea pig' dies from reaction to drugs
bs.. 11/28 Estimating the extent of human mad cow disease
bt.. 11/25 Human death toll predicted to jump next year
bu.. 11/19 Patients kept in dark about CJD timebomb
bv.. 11/16 Families' new CJD nightmare
bw.. 11/15 Common bacterium 'linked to BSE, vCJD and MS'
bx.. 11/14 Gene boosts resistance to human form of mad cow disease
by.. 11/11 British hospital study on CJD 'was stifled'
bz.. 10/30 Estimates of future human death toll from mad cow disease
ca.. 10/20 Mainstream BSE researchers swiftly rejected claim
cb.. 10/18 Japan's first suspected case of the human form of mad cow
cc.. 10/12 Challenge to BSE connection with CJD
cd.. 10/11 Right to know for patients at CJD risk
ce.. 10/2 British blood donors fear results of vCJD tests
cf.. 10/1 Experts fear human variant could become an epidemic
cg.. 9/30 Thousands of patients were exposed to vCJD
ch.. 9/22 Human Epidemic in Waiting
ci.. 9/19 British BSE expert warns about European beef
cj.. 9/18 Variant CJD May Be More Infectious
ck.. 9/16 Mad cow disease risk in milk and dairy products?
cl.. 9/15 Vaccine for human equivalent of mad cow disease possible
cm.. 9/15 High Scottish vCJD rates may be due to cheaper meats
cn.. 9/14 Two Kentucky Creutzfeldt-Jakob cases confirmed
co.. 9/10 Another French victim of mad cow disease
cp.. 9/7 Sharp rise in human cases of mad cow disease in the UK
cq.. 9/6 CJD treatments thus far disappointing
cr.. 9/5 We may soon know the size of the CJD epidemic
cs.. 8/28 Lack of protection from infected sheep criticized
ct.. August, 2001 Nearly everything we touch or taste has cow in it
cu.. 8/28 Mad cow expert voices fears over sheep risk
cv.. 8/23 Major review of treatments for spongiform encephalopathies
cw.. 8/21 Evidence for early urine diagnosis for CJD
cx.. 8/17 Scientists find antibodies that may tame rogue prions
cy.. 8/17 Mathematical model suggests novel CJD treatment
cz.. 8/16 Promise abounds for prion-disease treatments - or does it?
da.. 8/15 Public citizen calls on FDA to ban risky brain material
db.. 8/14 The published study on the two potential drug treatments
dc.. 8/14 Doctors test therapy for CJD
dd.. 8/13 Hopes raised over CJD treatment
de.. 8/11 Malaria drugs offer CJD hope
df.. 8/11 Firms used meat slurry in baby food
dg.. 8/10 British meat industry accused of CJD 'conspiracy'
dh.. 8/8 Human 'Mad Cow' Cases Reach 106 in the UK
di.. 8/7 Father: 'My CJD girl is dying while farmers get rich'
dj.. 8/3 Alarm as food chiefs say that lamb was as risky as beef
dk.. 7/28 British dentists not taking proper CJD precautions
dl.. 7/28 CJD victim's mother fears she may have disease
dm.. Summer, 2001 Mad Cow Disease 'Set to Put AIDS in the Shade'
dn.. 7/21 If you've got vCJD, would you want to know ?
do.. 7/20 Test Developed for 'Mad Cow'-Related Disease
dp.. 7/20 Eye op instruments 'could cause vcjd infection'
dq.. 7/17 A marker for mad cow disease may be found in urine
dr.. 7/14 Defusing the timebomb of human mad cow disease
ds.. 7/14 Watching newlywed die of vCJD 'was like a horror movie.'
dt.. 7/13 Japanese ministry fears dental surgery link to CJD
du.. 7/6 'Tests possible soon' for human 'mad cow' disease
dv.. 7/1 Lingering Doubts about Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
dw.. 7/1 Atypical Cerebellum-Type Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
dx.. 7/1 Prions found in urine; diagnostic test in the works
dy.. previous articles






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This is fantastic, it has the capacity of changing names depending what
species is affecting. jajajajaja
No mad cow humans, just Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.


'TSEs are a mysterious class of diseases that are called by different
names in different species. For instance some identified types of TSE
are Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD), and its specific strain, new
variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (nvCJD) which is a human disease
apparently caused by the same agent which causes bovine spongiform
encephalopathy (BSE) or British "mad cow" disease, Fatal Familial
Insomnia (FFA), Gerstmann-Straussler-Scheinker Syndrome (GSS),
scrapie in sheep, transmissible mink encephalopathy (TME) in mink in
North America, and chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer and elk in
North America. There may be different strains of TSE within species,
and new strains may be produced when TSEs move from one animal
species to another.

The common characteristics of TSE diseases are that they are
invariably fatal. '
http://www.icta.org/legal/madcow.htm

This deer transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE), however, apparently
has shown that injestion of contaminated tissues is NOT required for transmission.
I see it potentially more dangerous than the Mad Cow strains. Maybe contact
with contaminated fecal particles is enough.
But lets just wait for 10 or 15 years for the incubation period to show me wrong,
lets do nothing.


That still appears to be the attitude of some. Of course that's the
same attitude that allowed things to get this far..

Deer feces in my gardening organic soil?


Direct Saliva Contact, Etc, Most Likely Route CWD Infection
USGS National Wildlife Health Center
12-5-2

... The mode of transmission of CWD between animals is not known,
although direct contact between infected and non-infected animals
via saliva, urine and feces is the most likely route of transmission.
Contamination of soil by excreta from infected animals is thought to
be another route of transmission, particularly among captive herds
of deer and elk.
http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/research/ch...c_wasting.html

____________
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/.../cwdmdce.shtml
...
It is not certain how Chronic wasting disease CWD is transmitted, but based
on experience with the disease in captive deer species in facilities in the
states of Colorado and Wyoming, both lateral (animal to animal) and maternal
(mother to offspring) transmission may be possible. The most likely means of
transmission is between animals that are in close contact with each other.
The epidemiology supports the lateral transmission as the major mode of
transmission as most affected animals in the Colorado and Wyoming facilities
were unrelated. In addition, the elk and mule deer placed in paddocks that
had housed infected cervids for many years, became infected, even though there
were no other cervids on the premises, leading to the assumption that the
environment of a facility could transmit the disease. There were a few cases
of CWD in offspring of dams which developed the disease but it was not possible
to rule out lateral transmission.

Is there a risk to human health?
There is currently no scientific evidence that CWD affects humans, but we
must exercise caution since there is some evidence to suggest that BSE can
affect humans, which is another TSE also known as mad cow disease.
...


Hold onto your hat...
'An estimated two to three million Americans are afflicted by
Alzheimer's (Scully, 1993); it is the fourth leading cause of death
among the elderly in the U.S (Perry, 1995). Twenty percent or more
of people clinically diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease are found
at autopsy to not have had Alzheimer's at all (McKhann, 1984). At
Yale, out of 46 patients clinically diagnosed with Alzheimer's,
6 were proven to be CJD at autopsy (Manuelidis, 1989). In another
post-mortem study 3 out of 12 "Alzheimer" patients actually died
from a spongiform encephalopathy (Teixeira, 1995). .....' !!!
http://www.mad-cow.org/~tom/Alzheimer_cjd.html

How?

'When mink TSE wiped out 60 percent of the 7,300 breeding mink
on a Stetsonville, Wisconsin, ranch in 1985, Marsh traced the disease
to the mink's feed, downer dairy cows (cows unable to walk and
considered unfit for human consumption). Marsh injected some of
the infected mink tissue into the brains of two calves and waited. In
less than two years, the calves' rear legs collapsed under them just
like downer cattle. He injected some of the calves' brain tissue back
into healthy mink. After an incubation period identical to that in the
original infected mink, the new mink developed the same disease. '
http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/122002/cwd.html

'It is reassuring that outbreaks of TSEs on mink farms have been rare,
and that none have been documented in the last ten years. However,
one unsettling thing about Dr. Marsh's work on TSE is that the two
calves infected with diseased mink brain did not act aggressively or
exhibit any of the other behavioral symptoms typical of "mad cow"
disease; rather, they just became a little stiff and sluggish and
ultimately collapsed, much as a "downer" cow would. Furthermore,
histopathological examination of the calves brain did not turn up
spongy holes in the places of the brain where "mad cow" disease
usually attacks. In fact, the brain lesions were variable and did not
resemble those seen in British cattle with "mad cow" disease. However,
these cattle died of a spongiform encephalopathy (Marsh et al., 1991).
These data suggest that TSEs could occur in cattle without being
noticed or properly identified as such.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1527/fdabse.html

"Jim Webster" wrote in message

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Lotus wrote in message
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Mad Cow Disease / Mad Deer Disease

- http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow.htm

This appears to be a US website and appears to lack any depth of
knowledge of BSE




I found it full of good links. And good luck with your burger.









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"Lotus" wrote in message
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"Michael" wrote in message
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"Lotus" wrote in message
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"Jim Webster" wrote in message

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Lotus wrote in message
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Mad Cow Disease / Mad Deer Disease

- http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow.htm

This appears to be a US website and appears to lack any depth of
knowledge of BSE

Anything to cast doubt, eh Jim.

Here are just some of the links at this excellent site;

Mad Cow Europe

a.. 11/10 McDonald's 'disastrous year' blamed in part on mad cow
b.. 10/31 Patients in CJD blunder facing 20 years of dread


snipping for brevity

ew.. 6/4 How Britain spawned a global epidemic
ex.. 6/3 Could mad cow strike the United States?
ey.. 6/1 Factory farming and human health
ez.. previous articles


Mad cow in America

Zero.


Don't look, and you won't find.

That's that disease mainly in England, right? And we have this rather

large
body of water between us, right?

Let's have another beer.


Enjoy a few whilst perusing this. (you obviously didn't even
follow the link, so I doubt you will actually read any article).

Mad Cow / Mad Deer USA / Canada

a.. 11/9 Permanent import ban imposed on deer and elk in

Oregon

Snipping deer info. Not quite the same as mad cow disease. Also some stuff
about Hong Kong and Scotland.

CWD and MCD are different, but my my my you can sure post a monster message.
Not a single bit of it footnoted.




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"Michael" wrote in message
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"Lotus" wrote in message
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"Michael" wrote in message
...

"Lotus" wrote in message
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"Jim Webster" wrote in message
...

Lotus wrote in message
...
Mad Cow Disease / Mad Deer Disease

- http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow.htm

...
Snipping deer info. Not quite the same as mad cow disease. Also some stuff
about Hong Kong and Scotland.


There are items about mad cow in the US, if you look. (clue)

Try;
g.. 11/3 Nobel Laureate: Mad Cow 'Must' be in the U.S.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/experts11302.cfm

h.. 11/3 General Accounting Office Criticizes U.S. Mad Cow Policy
http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/experts11302.cfm



CWD and MCD are different,


Both are TSEs. (clue)

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"Michael" wrote in message
.cfm


A bunch of snipping


CWD and MCD are different,


Both are TSEs. (clue)


All dogs are animals but not all animals are dogs. (another clue)




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Maybe you did not read.
This organism is not your regular animal.
Stop thinking in Boolean logic.

Michael wrote:
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All dogs are animals but not all animals are dogs. (another clue)

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Maybe you did not read.
This organism is not your regular animal.
Stop thinking in Boolean logic.

Michael wrote:
...
All dogs are animals but not all animals are dogs. (another clue)


What's truly comical is a bunch of nut cases (I include myself) raving about
organophosphates and Mg triggers like there was a snowball's chance in Hades
any of us had a clue to the causes of this problem.

And if anyone thinks they do because of citing a web page, well go look in
the mirror and do a serious reality check.


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Michael writes

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Maybe you did not read.
This organism is not your regular animal.
Stop thinking in Boolean logic.

Michael wrote:
...
All dogs are animals but not all animals are dogs. (another clue)


What's truly comical is a bunch of nut cases (I include myself) raving about
organophosphates and Mg triggers like there was a snowball's chance in Hades
any of us had a clue to the causes of this problem.


sigh

Without any reasonable doubt TE's are caused by transmission of prions
from one animal to another.

The origin of BSE is unknown and there aren't very convincing pointers
either.

Or is that too simple?

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Oz wrote in message
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Michael writes

wrote in message
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Maybe you did not read.
This organism is not your regular animal.
Stop thinking in Boolean logic.

Michael wrote:
...
All dogs are animals but not all animals are dogs. (another clue)


What's truly comical is a bunch of nut cases (I include myself)

raving about
organophosphates and Mg triggers like there was a snowball's chance

in Hades
any of us had a clue to the causes of this problem.


sigh

Without any reasonable doubt TE's are caused by transmission of prions
from one animal to another.

The origin of BSE is unknown and there aren't very convincing pointers
either.

Or is that too simple?

much to simple. It doesn't allow for conspiracy theories, the
macinations of corporate capitalists, or the despicable actions of
corrupt politicians.

If people had to face up to this generally then a lot of sad and
inadequate people would suddenly have to face up to the fact that sh*t
happens and you cannot keep blaming your parents all your life.

Much more comforting to believe that it is all "their" fault and that
"they" are out there plotting against the small folk, holding them back.
--
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"The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind"

'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami'



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"Oz" wrote in message
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Michael writes

wrote in message
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Maybe you did not read.
This organism is not your regular animal.
Stop thinking in Boolean logic.

Michael wrote:
...
All dogs are animals but not all animals are dogs. (another clue)


What's truly comical is a bunch of nut cases (I include myself) raving

about
organophosphates and Mg triggers like there was a snowball's chance in

Hades
any of us had a clue to the causes of this problem.


sigh

Without any reasonable doubt TE's are caused by transmission of prions
from one animal to another.

The origin of BSE is unknown and there aren't very convincing pointers
either.

Or is that too simple?

--
Oz
This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.
Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted.


Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!!!!!

The Great Oz has spoken.




 
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