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Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Tides are certainly affected by Venus
Global weather is further impacted by Venus Tectonics have recently been influenced by Venus Platetonics (earthquakes) influenced by Venus There are only 4 primary issues associated with Earth's weather, as well as it's tectonics and/or platetonics (of course, if you're one of those super brains, then there are at least another thousand issues however, if combined those considerations will not amount to the least of the following). 1) the sun 2) the moon 3) Venus 4) Earth itself Normally (for 16+ months) our weather/storm patterns and of whatever other planetary internal/external issues are those unaffected by Venus, that's because for those 16+ months out of it's 18+ month cycle, it's sufficiently far away and not in sufficient alignment with the Sun or our moon. However folks, since Venus is roughly 100 times the mass of our moon and, upon occasions it has been only 100 times as far away, thus having nearly the same gravitational influence as our moon, with the strong added exception that unlike our moon, at times Venus is essentially parked (lingering) between then Sun and us, simply not moving towards or away all that fast, therefore it's influence is somewhat greater (accumulative, day after day), as for applying a relatively consistent/proportional gravitational pull, delivering a subsequent influence upon Earth for at least 2 months worth out of every cycle of encountering Earth. This most recent planetary influence is most certainly what generated those higher as well as unusual tides and, it certainly exacerbated other issues such as upon tectonics and associated golbal alterations, thus earthquakes, greater storms and of simply of more likely then not other radical weather/temperature affects are in fact those being influenced by Venus, especially when it has become this close and so unlike our moon, having such added inward sustained pull upon Earth for these two months of October/November 2002. A brief check of previous Venus/Earth cycles (encounters), as those associated to Earth's environment and general status of generally bad and/or unusual things happening, as coinciding with those times when Venus was being close to Earth, will indicate upon similar events and subsequently confirm the effects of this frequent encounter with Venus. In fact this October 4th & 5th we even had the moon in direct addition, thus even greater (near maximum) solar system stresses upon Earth and as such, muximum influences upon global weather and tides. Because this planetary nearness can only be observed in Earth's daylight, to most of us the planet Venus is simply not visible (does not exist), but it's certainly there and it's darn big (appearing as 3.25% of our moon) and, this event happens roughly every 18+ months. Obviously Venus is not as such helping us out by pushing us away from the Sun, in fact, it's always been pulling us inward and at recent times, such as this October/November 2002, that pull has been unusually greater because it's doing such at the mere distance of 0.27 AU (40.4^6 km), a nearly equal gravitational pull influence as that of our moon, with the exception being that this pull is prolonged (accumulative) and as unlike the moon, it's constantly in addition to the solar gravity, with that added force being applied for weeks on end. Unfortunate for Earth's humanity and truths; It seems as though our NASA has recently determined that Newton, Einstine as well as a host of other astronomers were all full of it because, this recent significant influence of Venus upon Earth's weather and tectonics and/or platetonics is oddly being ignored to death, even though Venus has recently been influencing somewhat more upon Earth then what our moon normally impacts (additionally as being accumulated along with our lunar pull on November 4th & 5th), thus greatly influencing upon our global weather situation and worse. The recent storms, earthquakes and general weather behaviour patterns have been those influenced by Venus, yet NASA and NOAA have each been doing everything within their considerable power (orchestrating) as to keeping Venus out of the news as well as out of the astronomy and other science minds. Sort of "out of sight, out of mind". OK folks, so according to our NASA, the considerable influences of Venus is not an issue worth understanding, in fact, if you were to call or email NASA/NOAA as to inquire about Venus you will not obtain squat, only textbook and/or carfully scripted references and of nothing that's current nor scheduled for the future. As far as NASA is concerned, Venus simply no longer exist, as not even our best talented astronomers nor space platform instruments can locate nor image upon Venus, even though it's with sufficiently black space at 6+ degrees south of the Sun (that's even been safe for Hubble to image upon and certainly TRACE could have managed). As I've said, certain things cause and/or affect Earth's surface environment as well as physical/internal status. In fact, if it were not for these outside influences, Earth would have little if any weather and little if any other internal/geological activity. It seems rather odd, that of something that's certainly capable of influencing our environment as much if not more so then our moon, shouldn't this be important to comprehend, important to chart and perhaps very important as to taking into account, yet NASA/NOAA will have none of it. The recent discoveries of what could be those of artificial remains and/or the current situation of "life NOT as we know it" still surviving on Venus, this highly unfortunate issue might have become the trigger that has officially placed Venus off the maps, off the charts and entirely out of the minds of those capable of researching and discovering things, towards better understanding what our solar system has to offer and, especially with regard to our nearest and most humanly accessible planet, a planet which seems to be hosting some form of obviously evolved life that has likely become accustomed to the nighttime season of Venus. Basically I've heard it all or, at least I think I've heard every orchestrated excuse there is, yet more such excuses keep showing up, as for blocking every possible avenue and opportunity towards properly researching Venus. A darn good alternate question might be; Why should our NASA be making (at taxpayers expense) such an effort at ignoring the obvious and at stopping others from obtaining the truth. If you are at all interested, I have a few dozen pages of my research and ongoing tit for tat, that which clearly pushes far too many of NASA's buttons, perhaps I'm even pushing some of your buttons as well and, if not I'll certainly try much harder as to doing better the next time around. http://guthvenus.tripod.com and http://geocities.com/bradguth Ragards, Brad Guth / IEIS "GUTH Venus" (alt. ) |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Brad Guth writes
However folks, since Venus is roughly 100 times the mass of our moon and, upon occasions it has been only 100 times as far away, thus having nearly the same gravitational influence as our moon, Oh dear. Elementary error No1. A mass 100 times the moon 100 times further away has 1/100th the gravitational effect. Inverse square law, remember. I can't be arsed to look it up but I would be quite surprised if venus ever got as close as 5M miles. Doubtless the rest is equal rubbish .... -- Oz This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious. Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted. |
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Oz wrote in message ... Brad Guth writes However folks, since Venus is roughly 100 times the mass of our moon and, upon occasions it has been only 100 times as far away, thus having nearly the same gravitational influence as our moon, When horoscopes were supposed to relate to the gravitational pull of the planets at your birth didn't someone calculate that the gravitational effect of where the midwife was standing at your birth should have more effect that Jupiter. -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' |
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Oz wrote:
Brad Guth writes However folks, since Venus is roughly 100 times the mass of our moon and, upon occasions it has been only 100 times as far away, thus having nearly the same gravitational influence as our moon, Oh dear. Elementary error No1. You have also committed elementary error no. 0 - reading a Guth post! Brett |
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Brett Buck writes
Oz wrote: Brad Guth writes snip You have also committed elementary error no. 0 - reading a Guth post! Ahh, but new to this group, so the usual entertainment to be had until boredom sets in. -- Oz This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious. Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted. |
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Brett Buck wrote in message ... Oz wrote: Brad Guth writes However folks, since Venus is roughly 100 times the mass of our moon and, upon occasions it has been only 100 times as far away, thus having nearly the same gravitational influence as our moon, Oh dear. Elementary error No1. You have also committed elementary error no. 0 - reading a Guth post! During the English civil war, a Parliamentary 'poet' whose name I can no longer recall was captured by the Royalists who were about to string him up for treason. He was spared when a fellow poet who was a friend of the king pleaded for his life with the following words, "While he is alive, no one can call me the worst poet in England." Guth seems to serve the same purpose, a reminder that some people didn't get out of the gene pool when they wanted a pee. -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' Brett |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
om... Tides are certainly affected by Venus Global weather is further impacted by Venus Tectonics have recently been influenced by Venus Platetonics (earthquakes) influenced by Venus Does this dickhead actually believe that Venus being 100 times further away than the moon and 100 times bigger has the same effect, or is he just trolling? I didn't think the Inverse Square law was that difficult to understand! Barry Hunt |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
"Barry Hunt" wrote in message ... "Brad Guth" wrote in message om... Tides are certainly affected by Venus Global weather is further impacted by Venus Tectonics have recently been influenced by Venus Platetonics (earthquakes) influenced by Venus Does this dickhead actually believe that Venus being 100 times further away than the moon and 100 times bigger has the same effect, or is he just trolling? I didn't think the Inverse Square law was that difficult to understand! I had to demonstrate it to a engineer with a PhD once. -- Gordon Gordon Couger Stillwater, OK www.couger.com/gcouger |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Barry Hunt wrote:
"Brad Guth" wrote in message om... Tides are certainly affected by Venus Global weather is further impacted by Venus Tectonics have recently been influenced by Venus Platetonics (earthquakes) influenced by Venus Does this dickhead actually believe that Venus being 100 times further away than the moon and 100 times bigger has the same effect, or is he just trolling? I didn't think the Inverse Square law was that difficult to understand! Tides don't follow an inverse square law. They decrease as the third power of the distance. |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
"Thomas Palm" wrote in message ... Barry Hunt wrote: "Brad Guth" wrote in message om... Tides are certainly affected by Venus Global weather is further impacted by Venus Tectonics have recently been influenced by Venus Platetonics (earthquakes) influenced by Venus Does this dickhead actually believe that Venus being 100 times further away than the moon and 100 times bigger has the same effect, or is he just trolling? I didn't think the Inverse Square law was that difficult to understand! Tides don't follow an inverse square law. They decrease as the third power of the distance. Never mind that the relative distances to the near and far sides of Earth with respect to Venus are miniscule compared to the moon. Tidal effects would be negligible. Me thinks Mr. Guth's mercurial attempt at reinventing reality mars the truth to the point of joviality, and could be easily bettered by something pulled from uranus. |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
In message , Barry Hunt
writes "Brad Guth" wrote in message . com... Tides are certainly affected by Venus Global weather is further impacted by Venus Tectonics have recently been influenced by Venus Platetonics (earthquakes) influenced by Venus Does this dickhead actually believe that Venus being 100 times further away than the moon and 100 times bigger has the same effect, or is he just trolling? I didn't think the Inverse Square law was that difficult to understand! Nor the inverse cube, which makes the effect even smaller :-) -- mail to jsilverlight AT merseia.fsnet.co.uk is welcome |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Oz wrote: I can't be arsed to look it up Either that's Freudian, or very clever. Pat |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
In message s1MA9.30871$V16.25510@rwcrnsc54, Bob Harrington
writes "Thomas Palm" wrote in message ... Barry Hunt wrote: "Brad Guth" wrote in message om... Tides are certainly affected by Venus Global weather is further impacted by Venus Tectonics have recently been influenced by Venus Platetonics (earthquakes) influenced by Venus Does this dickhead actually believe that Venus being 100 times further away than the moon and 100 times bigger has the same effect, or is he just trolling? I didn't think the Inverse Square law was that difficult to understand! Tides don't follow an inverse square law. They decrease as the third power of the distance. Never mind that the relative distances to the near and far sides of Earth with respect to Venus are miniscule compared to the moon. Tidal effects would be negligible. Me thinks Mr. Guth's mercurial attempt at reinventing reality mars the truth to the point of joviality, and could be easily bettered by something pulled from uranus. Only a real pedant would post a correction - "minuscule". But isn't there a suggestion that the Earth has had an effect on Venus? There's that 3:2 relationship between the length of Venus' day and Earth's year. -- mail to jsilverlight AT merseia.fsnet.co.uk is welcome |
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Dear Bob,
Obviously I'm not as smart as you and I'll likely make a few thousand more mistakes (inaccuracies). At least my inaccuracies aren't costing lives and billions of dollars. I'm not all that sure if you want to keep hearing this, but, there's very little reason (at the moment anyway) to look beyond Venus for other life. There's plenty of toasty CO2, at good pressure, convertible to CO/O2 There's plenty of H2O remaining in those cool nighttime clouds. Distillation as for extracting that H2O is nearly free. With relatively little energy, volumes of H2 can be produced from the H2O. (that's buoyancy as well as darn good thermal insulation) There's ample buoyancy (64+kg/m3) as for massive rigid airships. Those airships can function either below or above those cool nighttime clouds. There's GW worth of renewable vertical differential CO2 wind energy. We're talking about 4+bar/km as well as 9+K/km (nighttime), that's some sort of kinetics on steroids. So happens, Venus is still within a local area code for xenon/laser calling. btw; did I happen to mention, there's simply loads of more likely then not artificial attributes, big as "life NOT as we know it", as openly existing in plain sight (of course you have to look). There's a whole lot mo including some of my (tit for tat) return flak. I do love returning a favor whenever I can. http://guthvenus.tripod.com and http://geocities.com/bradguth Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
OK, then instead of Venus pulling us into the sun, what you're stating
is perhaps or in fact that Earth is pulling Venus away from the sun and, that those additional storm issues, earthquakes and unusual tide occurrences were entirely unrelated either way. |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Brad Guth wrote:
Obviously I'm not as smart as you and I'll likely make a few thousand more mistakes (inaccuracies). Look. Claiming to be a far greater expert on Venus than anyone else, so much so that you can see features in photographs not visible to anyone but yourself, then not being able to tell the difference between topographical maps of Venus and Mars, goes *way* beyond "innaccuracy." It calls your very competence into question and, frankly, I've seen you do absolutely nothing which demonstrates your competence to be greater than that of the average 10th-grader. Sure, you can sling jargon around quite impressively, but your command of data, your ability to draw conclusions from data, and your ability to communicate your "findings" all indicate, in my experience, a 13-year-old underachiever. If that is how you wish to be perceived, or if you don't care how you are perceived, then fine. Just don't complain because we treat you in accordance with that perception. -- Beady's Ninth Law of Social Harmonics: "Never dress better than members of the jury." |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Dear John, no John,
You guys (NASA moles) are the really smart ones because, you're getting paid for your "spin" and "damage control" efforts, all on behalf of Lord NASA. I'm just the observational village idiot that can actually still see. Unlike yourself, I'm still learning about Venus, making lots and lots of mistakes along the way and damn proud of it. That's right John, I'm an under achiever if there ever was, as I haven't goten anyone killed nor do I elect to associate with those that have. How about yourself? btw; topographical maps of Venus and Mars are certainly different and, I do not confuse them unless you're the one, the idiot, not smart enough to be looking at the current data. And, I certainly don't need any stinking maps in order to point out what a thorough bunch of fools and of much worse things you are. I was looking, searching for NASA's moral standards. They have standards on just about everything and anything, yet something as important and crucial as morals is absolutely nowhere in sight, I guess they simply have no morals, as that would certainly account for all their past and ongoing cloaking for NSA/DoD agendas. http://guthvenus.tripod.com/mars-venus.htm http://guthvenus.tripod.com/life-options.htm Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS --------------------------------------------------------- John Beaderstadt wrote in message ... Brad Guth wrote: Obviously I'm not as smart as you and I'll likely make a few thousand more mistakes (inaccuracies). Look. Claiming to be a far greater expert on Venus than anyone else, so much so that you can see features in photographs not visible to anyone but yourself, then not being able to tell the difference between topographical maps of Venus and Mars, goes *way* beyond "innaccuracy." It calls your very competence into question and, frankly, I've seen you do absolutely nothing which demonstrates your competence to be greater than that of the average 10th-grader. Sure, you can sling jargon around quite impressively, but your command of data, your ability to draw conclusions from data, and your ability to communicate your "findings" all indicate, in my experience, a 13-year-old underachiever. If that is how you wish to be perceived, or if you don't care how you are perceived, then fine. Just don't complain because we treat you in accordance with that perception. |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
I have a number of jokes about the following:
JFK, the dead fool The USS LIBERTY and, what 6 day war prisoners? 9/11 on steroids and the missing 757 Flight 107 and flight 800 (poof) Those Apollo days of wonderment How not to take pictures of vibrant stars. How to make vacuum dried lunar soil/sand clump. How SAR imaging has been avoiding anything lunar. How a good UV a/b laser cannon solves problems for Israel. How warlord Bush will soon fix everything. --------------------------------------------------------------- "Bob Harrington" wrote in message news:s1MA9.30871$V16.25510@rwcrnsc54... "Thomas Palm" wrote in message ... Barry Hunt wrote: "Brad Guth" wrote in message om... Tides are certainly affected by Venus Global weather is further impacted by Venus Tectonics have recently been influenced by Venus Platetonics (earthquakes) influenced by Venus Does this dickhead actually believe that Venus being 100 times further away than the moon and 100 times bigger has the same effect, or is he just trolling? I didn't think the Inverse Square law was that difficult to understand! Tides don't follow an inverse square law. They decrease as the third power of the distance. Never mind that the relative distances to the near and far sides of Earth with respect to Venus are miniscule compared to the moon. Tidal effects would be negligible. Me thinks Mr. Guth's mercurial attempt at reinventing reality mars the truth to the point of joviality, and could be easily bettered by something pulled from uranus. |
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"Doubtless the rest is equal rubbish"
That's right, just not worth the aggravation or, perhaps NASA is simply not paying you enough. I'll call in a request for another salary increase, or perhaps just a big bonus will have to due. I'm good at errors as well as at replacement errors, as to how that affects the values and/or worthy nature of what's available to us on Venus is obviously not understood by your infected brain. Perhaps you should go back into cloaking on behalf of NSA/DoD agendas, this time get an entire fleet (United is looking for a way out) to crash into NYC, they seem to thrive on adversity. http://guthvenus.tripod.com/mars-venus.htm http://guthvenus.tripod.com/life-options.htm Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS ----------------------------------------------------------- Oz wrote in message ... Brad Guth writes However folks, since Venus is roughly 100 times the mass of our moon and, upon occasions it has been only 100 times as far away, thus having nearly the same gravitational influence as our moon, Oh dear. Elementary error No1. A mass 100 times the moon 100 times further away has 1/100th the gravitational effect. Inverse square law, remember. I can't be arsed to look it up but I would be quite surprised if venus ever got as close as 5M miles. Doubtless the rest is equal rubbish .... |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Brad Guth writes
"Doubtless the rest is equal rubbish" That's right, just not worth the aggravation or, perhaps NASA is simply not paying you enough. I'll call in a request for another salary increase, or perhaps just a big bonus will have to due. Ahh! A good one! Now I'm being paid by nasa! Where do I get the cheque? I'm good at errors Yeah, right, like not knowing the inverse square law. My kids knew that aged 11. Anyway, as a self-certified crank with nothing of interest to say. plonk. -- Oz This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious. Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted. |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
In further jest, in deed I do, as well as often apply satire and, I'm
not even all that good at it. Sort of like NASA's jesting and satire on all of that lunar stuff except, they're darn good at it. Just like recently NASA's moles have delivered onto their following of worshipers that Earth (besides being flat and only American) is entirely unaffected by other gravity such as Venus, even when it's lingering at 0.27 AU and even more so when it's in further alignment with our moon as well as the sun. As for being the village idiot, thereby not an astronomer (Hell, I don't even know which way is up), I always thought that our moon affected or at least had an influence upon Earth's weather, tides and even did a number on various tectonic issues. Seems I recall that aligning especially large gravitational pulls is a definite no-no unless you actually wanted greater tides and such as Earth's core and platetonics being manipulated. Seems that of something that's roughly 100 times the mass of our moon and, as such being situated (unlike our moon) for weeks in nearly one accumulative specific direction of pull, that was also aligned with the sun, that this would have offered some influence, especially when all 4 bodies were in alignment. Seems that gravitional pull is also associated with time, as our moon spends so very little time pulling in any one direction (damn thing keeps going round and round you know) however, Venus was doing it's near miss thing for a good two weeks worth and, worse yet was the fact that again unlike our moon, that Venus gravity thing was in sufficient alignment with that other big gravity thing called the sun. Good thing I was entirely dead wrong about all that gravity stuff and to think, I can thank all those NASA moles for setting me straight. Good thing Venus has never affected Earth (having always been a non issue) as otherwise, I would have thought those dates of inclusion were somewhat coinciding with extra bad weather disturbances, extra extreme tides and of overly active tectonics were some how related to gravitational pull issues, especially when sufficiently aligned and sufficiently close to matter but, as according to God, that has not been the case and NASA can damn well prove it, almost as good as they can prove we've walked on the moon, almost as good as they can prove they don't cloak for NSA/DoD agendas, almost as good as making hundreds of expertise witnesses that saw a small missile taking out flight 800 into liars and mentally incompetent fools (Boeing and of all other aero engineers must be the really stupid and incompetent fools because, they've tried absolutely everything [short of a dynamite stick] and still can't make a center fuel tank explode, let alone into small [unrecoverable] fragments because, that damn tank was not only big but apparently constructed better then the airplane itself), then how about almost as good as the Israeli can prove those thousands of 6-Day war prisoners simply vanished on their own after they had been released with wine and box lunches into the desert and, just because the USS LIBERTY happened to be orchestrating on behalf of Israel (utilizing just about every NASA/NSA/DoD space reconnaissance, guidance and eavesdropping possible) and subsequently recording such military wonders, apparently that same illusion of those nice Israeli folks taking out the USS LIBERTY was simply an unfortunate turn of events that mistakenly led to the 9/11 "tit for tat". After all, it was certainly also a good move and a good thing we trained and armed those Taliban as for doing our cold-war thing against those nasty USSR folks, as those USSR devils were trying to oust such bad assed sorts out of Afghanistan (how dare they do that, interfere with our street drug production and illegal global drug trade). Boy, am I glad that our NASA and their crack crews of moles are on top of things, that is whenever there not on top of each other, as in doing the nasty. As without their divine guidance, I might actually have thought gravity was a consideration, but now I know because God has spoken. Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com |
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I have lots to say;
In further jest, in deed I do, as well as often apply satire and, I'm not even all that good at it. Sort of like NASA's jesting and satire on all of that lunar stuff except, they're darn good at it. Just like recently NASA's moles have delivered onto their following of worshipers that Earth (besides being flat and only American) is entirely unaffected by other gravity such as Venus, even when it's lingering at 0.27 AU and even more so when it's in further alignment with our moon as well as the sun. As for being the village idiot, thereby not an astronomer (Hell, I don't even know which way is up), I always thought that our moon affected or at least had an influence upon Earth's weather, tides and even did a number on various tectonic issues. Seems I recall that aligning especially large gravitational pulls is a definite no-no unless you actually wanted greater tides and such as Earth's core and platetonics being manipulated. Seems that of something that's roughly 100 times the mass of our moon and, as such being situated (unlike our moon) for weeks in nearly one accumulative specific direction of pull, that was also aligned with the sun, that this would have offered some influence, especially when all 4 bodies were in alignment. Seems that gravitional pull is also associated with time, as our moon spends so very little time pulling in any one direction (damn thing keeps going round and round you know) however, Venus was doing it's near miss thing for a good two weeks worth and, worse yet was the fact that again unlike our moon, that Venus gravity thing was in sufficient alignment with that other big gravity thing called the sun. Good thing I was entirely dead wrong about all that gravity stuff and to think, I can thank all those NASA moles for setting me straight. Good thing Venus has never affected Earth (having always been a non issue) as otherwise, I would have thought those dates of inclusion were somewhat coinciding with extra bad weather disturbances, extra extreme tides and of overly active tectonics were some how related to gravitational pull issues, especially when sufficiently aligned and sufficiently close to matter but, as according to God, that has not been the case and NASA can damn well prove it, almost as good as they can prove we've walked on the moon, almost as good as they can prove they don't cloak for NSA/DoD agendas, almost as good as making hundreds of expertise witnesses that saw a small missile taking out flight 800 into liars and mentally incompetent fools (Boeing and of all other aero engineers must be the really stupid and incompetent fools because, they've tried absolutely everything [short of a dynamite stick] and still can't make a center fuel tank explode, let alone into small [unrecoverable] fragments because, that damn tank was not only big but apparently constructed better then the airplane itself), then how about almost as good as the Israeli can prove those thousands of 6-Day war prisoners simply vanished on their own after they had been released with wine and box lunches into the desert and, just because the USS LIBERTY happened to be orchestrating on behalf of Israel (utilizing just about every NASA/NSA/DoD space reconnaissance, guidance and eavesdropping possible) and subsequently recording such military wonders, apparently that same illusion of those nice Israeli folks taking out the USS LIBERTY was simply an unfortunate turn of events that mistakenly led to the 9/11 "tit for tat". After all, it was certainly also a good move and a good thing we trained and armed those Taliban as for doing our cold-war thing against those nasty USSR folks, as those USSR devils were trying to oust such bad assed sorts out of Afghanistan (how dare they do that, interfere with our street drug production and illegal global drug trade). Boy, am I glad that our NASA and their crack crews of moles are on top of things, that is whenever there not on top of each other, as in doing the nasty. As without their divine guidance, I might actually have thought gravity was a consideration, but now I know because God has spoken. Regards, Brad Guth / IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com ----------------------------------------------------------- Oz wrote in message ... Brad Guth writes "Doubtless the rest is equal rubbish" That's right, just not worth the aggravation or, perhaps NASA is simply not paying you enough. I'll call in a request for another salary increase, or perhaps just a big bonus will have to due. Ahh! A good one! Now I'm being paid by nasa! Where do I get the cheque? I'm good at errors Yeah, right, like not knowing the inverse square law. My kids knew that aged 11. Anyway, as a self-certified crank with nothing of interest to say. plonk. |
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Venus because it's worth the trip, it's at least worth making a few
thousand xenon beam and/or laser packet calls (that's a local area code, no charge), it's worth a lot to ESA members and it's even worth something to those which constructed a fair number of big things on Venus. It's the only planet that's so far worth commercial enterprise. Even as for a manned mission, Venus is but 1/10th the impact of anything Mars (actually more like 1%) and, we have the technology as to doing VL2 right now, no weighting around. In spite of NASA, at least wherever it's hot, there's energy as to do something constructive. Without energy we couldn't survive, as in submarines nor ISS, nor Earth. Venus has lots of energy. http://guthvenus.tripod.com/mars-venus.htm and http://guthvenus.tripod.com/positive.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Percy wrote in message ... Brad Guth wrote: Tides are certainly affected by Venus .. There are only 4 primary issues associated with Earth's weather.. 1) the sun 2) the moon 3) Venus 4) Earth itself This is where my interest level sinks to zero. Sun,earth,moon, but then... Venus? Of all planets, why Venus. Mike |
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Brad Guth proved conclusively that the USA still produces a unique calibre of thinker. I wonder if he has consulted with Archimedes Plutonium. -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' |
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Brad Guth wrote:
I have lots to say; And no matter how often you say it, you still have nothing worthwhile to say. And all the insults destroy the value of even *reading* you tripe. Except of course for purely humorously reasons. -- Mike __________________________________________________ ______ "Colorado Ski Country, USA" Come often. Ski hard. Spend *lots* of money. Then leave as quickly as you can. |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Exactly where is Venus?
Don't take any of this as absolute fact, however, just because I'm no astronomer and thereby I'm not pretending as being "all knowing", plus the fact that I do not understand certain fundamental laws of physics as well as (unlike yourself) I do make mistakes, that's not at all the same thing as being more right then not and, as such being systematically rejected on the pathetic basis of syntax and/or omissions which others have intentionally failed to provide, as that would be exactly like knowingly allowing your doctor to amputate the wrong cancerous leg, then complaining (likely suing his socks off for millions) that before as well as after the fact you knew more then the doctor and did nothing wrong, yet that's exactly how NASA and their hordes of Borg followers have been acting, as against the "GUTH Venus" discoveries. I been calling it "spin" and "damage control", however folks and sucker taxpayers, perhaps that's needs to be revised as to SIMBAD (Self Inflicted Mutilation Behaviour Associated Disorder). Regarding gravitational influences: If that 0.0000051:1 gravitational pull (I've been informed as being a ratio of what our moon applies) is like anything associated with impulse power, as that which is calculated with a measured time frame of perhaps per second, in other words, if that 0.0000051 influence is being offered per each and every second and, if we have all of 2 weeks worth as to accumulate upon such; that's 1.2096^6 x 0.0000051 or 6.17:1 and, obviously that's only if those two weeks were unrealistically compressed down to just one of those seconds. I'm thinking (which hurts), that because Venus is not anything like our moon, it's not zipping about but rather focused in one direction and as such, if that accumulated gravity pull was to be calculated upon using minutes instead of per second, that's 60 X 0.0000051 or 0.0003:1 or roughly 0.03% and, hourly that's becoming an impressive 0.01836:1 or 1.836% as potentially applied. Even at the 1.8% of per lunar pull per hour, that's still a fairly great amount of influence, especially if that's in addition to the moon as well as going along with everything towards the sun (like November 4th and 5th), where that's a 24 hour 44% which is certainly quite another impulse value altogether. So, and mostly because I'm still on that nifty "need to know" basis, at this point I'm still entirely uncertain as to the accumulated affect; if we are talking about a gravitational force per second, per minute, per hour or per day. Obviously the length of such gravitational exposure time (hours, days or weeks) from such a gravitational influence is (unlike what my opposition stipulates) entirely relevant, even somewhat more so if and when that force is being added in conjunction with the sun as well as that of our moon, and as such, seems something should give, as otherwise there's perhaps things terribly wrong with the very existence of our solar system and/or why otherwise is our core so freaking active as well as mobile in terms of affecting platetonics in action. Without Earth's rotation interacting with the sun, then of the moon and perhaps Venus, Earth would obviously be quite thoroughly dead (dull as hell, cold too), little or no weather and probably no molten core neither and of one solid crust with perhaps big slabs of thick ice nearly everywhere. As it seems to take those active gravity associated issues in motion in order to keep things sufficiently mixed up and thereby unfrozen and hot (obviously, as this village idiot sees it, the more aggravation the more heat, above as well as below ground). I presume that nothing is ever pushing anything apart, other then of nuclear and/or certain magnetic considerations, as such I believe Venus has little of either to go around, so it's essentially back into gravity and of the relative position/location of that gravity in relationship to Earth and, obviously of the time spent or applied as in any sort of solar/lunar alignment that's worth considering. Obviously outside the two month proximity of Venus (only two of those weeks being worth much of anything), there's little influence from Venus, sort of like how little influence Pluto has upon the other planets, since it spends so much of it's meager time exposure too far away and seldom if ever applying it's minimal gravity influence in addition to the sun and, that's perhaps restricted to Neptune at best. http://guthvenus.tripod.com and http://geocities.com/bradguth Ragards, Brad Guth / IEIS "GUTH Venus" (alt. ) |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus?
Don't bother taking any of this as absolute fact, however, just because I'm no astronomer and thereby I'm not pretending as being "all knowing", plus the fact that I do not understand certain fundamental laws of physics as well as (unlike yourself) I do make mistakes, that's not at all the same thing as being more right then not and, as such being systematically rejected on the pathetic basis of syntax and/or omissions which others have intentionally failed to provide, as that would be exactly like knowingly allowing your doctor to amputate the wrong cancerous leg, then complaining (likely suing his socks off for millions) that before as well as after the fact you knew more then the doctor and did nothing wrong, yet that's exactly how NASA and their hordes of Borg followers have been acting, as against the "GUTH Venus" discoveries. I been calling it "spin" and "damage control", however folks and sucker taxpayers, perhaps that's needs to be revised as to SIMBAD (Self Inflicted Mutilation Behaviour Associated Disorder). Regarding gravitational influences: If that 0.0000051:1 gravitational pull (I've been informed as being a ratio of what our moon applies) is like anything associated with impulse power, as that which is calculated with a measured time frame of perhaps per second, in other words, if that 0.0000051 influence is being offered per each and every second and, if we have all of 2 weeks worth as to accumulate upon such; that's 1.2096^6 x 0.0000051 or 6.17:1 and, obviously that's only if those two weeks were unrealistically compressed down to just one of those seconds. I'm thinking (which hurts), that because Venus is not anything like our moon, it's not zipping about but rather focused in one direction and as such, if that accumulated gravity pull was to be calculated upon using minutes instead of per second, that's 60 X 0.0000051 or 0.0003:1 or roughly 0.03% and, hourly that's becoming an impressive 0.01836:1 or 1.836% as potentially applied. Even at the 1.8% of per lunar pull per hour, that's still a fairly great amount of influence, especially if that's in addition to the moon as well as going along with everything towards the sun (like November 4th and 5th), where that's a 24 hour 44% which is certainly quite another impulse value altogether. So, and mostly because I'm still on that nifty "need to know" basis, at this point I'm still entirely uncertain as to the accumulated affect; if we are talking about a gravitational force per second, per minute, per hour or per day. Obviously the length of such gravitational exposure time (hours, days or weeks) from such a gravitational influence is (unlike what my opposition stipulates) entirely relevant, even somewhat more so if and when that force is being added in conjunction with the sun as well as that of our moon, and as such, seems something should give, as otherwise there's perhaps things terribly wrong with the very existence of our solar system and/or why otherwise is our core so freaking active as well as mobile in terms of affecting platetonics in action. Without Earth's rotation interacting with the sun, then of the moon and perhaps Venus, Earth would obviously be quite thoroughly dead (dull as hell, cold too), little or no weather and probably no molten core neither and of one solid crust with perhaps big slabs of thick ice nearly everywhere. As it seems to take those active gravity associated issues in motion in order to keep things sufficiently mixed up and thereby unfrozen and hot (obviously, as this village idiot sees it, the more aggravation the more heat, above as well as below ground). I presume that nothing is ever pushing anything apart, other then of nuclear and/or certain magnetic considerations, as such I believe Venus has little of either to go around, so it's essentially back into gravity and of the relative position/location of that gravity in relationship to Earth and, obviously of the time spent or applied as in any sort of solar/lunar alignment that's worth considering. Obviously outside the two month proximity of Venus (only two of those weeks being worth much of anything), there's little influence from Venus, sort of like how little influence Pluto has upon the other planets, since it spends so much of it's meager time exposure too far away and seldom if ever applying it's minimal gravity influence in addition to the sun and, that's perhaps restricted to Neptune at best. http://guthvenus.tripod.com and http://geocities.com/bradguth Ragards, Brad Guth / IEIS "GUTH Venus" (alt. ) btw OZ; at least my one brain cell is not responsible for the carnage and dastardly deeds of NASA/NSA/DoD agendas. How about yourself? --------------------------------------------------------------- Oz wrote in message ... Jonathan Silverlight writes Brad has just one iron in the fire. and one cell in his brain .... |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Brad Guth wrote in message om... OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus? just down Crellin Street, past the chippie. -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:18:28 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote: Brad Guth wrote in message . com... OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus? just down Crellin Street, past the chippie. Take a right at the light, keep going straight until night, and then boy you're on your own. -- Michael R. Grabois -//- http://chili.cjb.net "People say losing builds character. That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. All losing does is suck. " -- Charles Barkley, 9/29/96 |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to "s" wrote in message ... On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:18:28 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: Brad Guth wrote in message . com... OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus? just down Crellin Street, past the chippie. Take a right at the light, keep going straight until night, and then boy you're on your own. peter pan was a least in the same mental sphere as humanity, you've broken through the event horizon and are acclerating away at relativistic speeds. If you look back over your shoulder you might just be able to spot reality. -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 06:50:33 -0000, "Jim Webster"
wrote: Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to "s" wrote in message ... On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:18:28 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: Brad Guth wrote in message . com... OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus? just down Crellin Street, past the chippie. Take a right at the light, keep going straight until night, and then boy you're on your own. peter pan was a least in the same mental sphere as humanity, you've broken through the event horizon and are acclerating away at relativistic speeds. If you look back over your shoulder you might just be able to spot reality. Actually, mine was a lyric from Bruce Springsteen's "Blinded by the Light". "Madmen, drummers, bummers, and Indians in the summer..." -- Michael R. Grabois -//- http://chili.cjb.net "People say losing builds character. That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. All losing does is suck. " -- Charles Barkley, 9/29/96 |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to "s" wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 06:50:33 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: Michael R. Grabois ... change $ to "s" wrote in message ... On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:18:28 -0000, "Jim Webster" wrote: Brad Guth wrote in message . com... OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus? just down Crellin Street, past the chippie. Take a right at the light, keep going straight until night, and then boy you're on your own. peter pan was a least in the same mental sphere as humanity, you've broken through the event horizon and are acclerating away at relativistic speeds. If you look back over your shoulder you might just be able to spot reality. Actually, mine was a lyric from Bruce Springsteen's "Blinded by the Light". "Madmen, drummers, bummers, and Indians in the summer..." sorry, I put it badly, I was describing guth rather than yourself, and it did seem that the instructions to finding neverland were almost too mundane for him -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' -- Michael R. Grabois -//- http://chili.cjb.net "People say losing builds character. That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. All losing does is suck. " -- Charles Barkley, 9/29/96 |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
"Brad Guth" wrote in message om... I'm good at errors as well as at replacement errors No kidding. What's fascinating about reading your exchanges with other people in this group is how assiduously avoid ever responding to a specific criticism or request for clarification. Typically, you respond instead either with invective or by simply changing the subject entirely. RM |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
"Brad Guth" wrote in message om... I have lots to say; In further jest, in deed I do, as well as often apply satire and, I'm not even all that good at it. True enough. As for being the village idiot, thereby not an astronomer (Hell, I don't even know which way is up), Probably also true. I always thought that our moon affected or at least had an influence upon Earth's weather, tides and even did a number on various tectonic issues. Seems I recall that aligning especially large gravitational pulls is a definite no-no unless you actually wanted greater tides and such as Earth's core and platetonics being manipulated. Seems that of something that's roughly 100 times the mass of our moon and, as such being situated (unlike our moon) for weeks in nearly one accumulative specific direction of pull, that was also aligned with the sun, that this would have offered some influence, especially when all 4 bodies were in alignment. It's been repeatedly pointed out to you that you are either ignoring or unaware of the inverse square law. You have (typically) never bothered to respond to this criticism. Why? Good thing I was entirely dead wrong about all that gravity stuff You were surprised? RM |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
I read everything below and was going to reply, but I just don't know where
to begin. It's all like some bizarre stream-of-consciousness thing . . . if there were actually something conscious producing it. RM "Brad Guth" wrote in message om... OZ, I have another few questions, like wxactly where is Venus? Don't bother taking any of this as absolute fact, however, just because I'm no astronomer and thereby I'm not pretending as being "all knowing", plus the fact that I do not understand certain fundamental laws of physics as well as (unlike yourself) I do make mistakes . . . Regarding gravitational influences: If that 0.0000051:1 gravitational pull (I've been informed as being a ratio of what our moon applies) is like anything associated with impulse power, as that which is calculated with a measured time frame of perhaps per second, in other words, if that 0.0000051 influence is being offered per each and every second and, if we have all of 2 weeks worth as to accumulate upon such; that's 1.2096^6 x 0.0000051 or 6.17:1 and, obviously that's only if those two weeks were unrealistically compressed down to just one of those seconds. What? I'm thinking (which hurts), that because Venus is not anything like our moon, it's not zipping about but rather focused in one direction What? and as such, if that accumulated gravity pull was to be calculated upon using minutes instead of per second, that's 60 X 0.0000051 or 0.0003:1 or roughly 0.03% and, hourly that's becoming an impressive 0.01836:1 or 1.836% as potentially applied. Even at the 1.8% of per lunar pull per hour, that's still a fairly great amount of influence, especially if that's in addition to the moon as well as going along with everything towards the sun (like November 4th and 5th), where that's a 24 hour 44% which is certainly quite another impulse value altogether. What? I can't bring myself to repost the rest. Do you just make all of this up out of whole cloth, just to see how funny you can make it sound? RM |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Ron Miller writes
What's fascinating about reading your exchanges with other people in this group is how assiduously avoid ever responding to a specific criticism or request for clarification. Typically, you respond instead either with invective or by simply changing the subject entirely. It's called 'trying to conceal ignorance'. -- Oz This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious. Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted. |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Oz wrote in message ... Ron Miller writes What's fascinating about reading your exchanges with other people in this group is how assiduously avoid ever responding to a specific criticism or request for clarification. Typically, you respond instead either with invective or by simply changing the subject entirely. It's called 'trying to conceal ignorance'. I just wish he would make a better job of it -- Jim Webster "The pasture of stupidity is unwholesome to mankind" 'Abd-ar-Rahman b. Muhammad b. Khaldun al-Hadrami' |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Jim Webster writes
Oz wrote in message ... Ron Miller writes What's fascinating about reading your exchanges with other people in this group is how assiduously avoid ever responding to a specific criticism or request for clarification. Typically, you respond instead either with invective or by simply changing the subject entirely. It's called 'trying to conceal ignorance'. I just wish he would make a better job of it Well of course he would, if he were not so ignorant. -- Oz This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious. Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted. |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Jim,
From a discussion on AgBioview: "When I stayed in England I was amazed at the high cost of food. Meat was two to three times the price I was used to paying in the Safeway. When these English people stayed with me in Washington D.C. they couldn't believe the amount of meat in the local super-market and how cheap it was. I was afraid they were going to OD on steak before they went home." As I recall when we worked out the price to feed a beef your selling price wasn't a great deal different than mine. Where did de money go? Gordon |
Earth is affected by Venus, NASA is affected by GUTH Venus
Gordon Couger writes
"When I stayed in England I was amazed at the high cost of food. Meat was two to three times the price I was used to paying in the Safeway. When these English people stayed with me in Washington D.C. they couldn't believe the amount of meat in the local super-market and how cheap it was. I was afraid they were going to OD on steak before they went home." As I recall when we worked out the price to feed a beef your selling price wasn't a great deal different than mine. Where did de money go? We have these extremely efficient corporations that sell food in the UK. They seem to require about a 100% markup on meat to make what they claim is a paltry living. They are called 'supermarkets'. To give the lowest cost to their consumers they ensure that all those below them in the supply chain trade at cost. Apparently it's something to do with a 'margin' where you buy at cost and sell as high as the market will bear. This is (according to their many adverts) done entirely altruistically on behalf of their well respected and much loved 'consumers'. Since nobody ever shops outside their local supermarket they have no idea of the real price of anything. Apparently this is called a 'captive' market which of course allows lower prices for the 'consumers'. Doesn't it? Must do, it's what they keep telling us .... -- Oz This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious. Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted. |
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