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US Bully: Sign war crime immunity agreement, or lose veterinary program aid
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US Bully: Sign war crime immunity agreement, or lose veterinary program aid
--Rire d'un Américain! s'écria J.-T. Maston, mais voilà un casus
belli!... (De la terre à la lune, par Jules Verne) Thus far, countries such as China, Cuba, North Korea, Iraq, USA, Libya, Burma, Pakistan, have refused to sign the ICC Treaty. Guilt by association? An old Stalinist tactic. Then by bleating in French, you associate yourself with a people that returns our gift of liberation from fascism and Germany with open betrayal. A nation that has so little manhood left that she brings in Africans and Arabs to impregnate her women. Quite a crowd that you associate yourself with. BTW, this is a science forum, not a crybaby forum, so do us a favor and shutup.-Jitney |
US Bully: Sign war crime immunity agreement, or lose veterinary program aid
--Rire d'un Américain! s'écria J.-T. Maston, mais voilà un casus
belli!... (De la terre à la lune, par Jules Verne) Thus far, countries such as China, Cuba, North Korea, Iraq, USA, Libya, Burma, Pakistan, have refused to sign the ICC Treaty. Guilt by association? An old Stalinist tactic. Then by bleating in French, you associate yourself with a people that returns our gift of liberation from fascism and Germany with open betrayal. A nation that has so little manhood left that she brings in Africans and Arabs to impregnate her women. Quite a crowd that you associate yourself with. BTW, this is a science forum, not a crybaby forum, so do us a favor and shutup.-Jitney |
US Bully: Sign war crime immunity agreement, or lose veterinary program aid
"Torsten Brinch" wrote in message ... On 7 Jul 2003 01:18:34 -0700, (jitney) wrote: In essence, US reaction to the establishment of an International Criminal Court has been to try to force through the establishment of international law as one for American citizens -- and another for the rest of the world. It is a classic case of American double standards, easy to see for the rest of us, but strangely invisible to Americans. (snip) Oh, quit bleating and whining, you tortured bitch. Nobody but a fellow Euroweenie wants to listen to your pseudomoral bellyaching. Just shut your dirty mouth and do something useful for once.-Jitney Thus far, countries such as China, Cuba, North Korea, Iraq, USA, Libya, Burma, Pakistan, have refused to sign the ICC Treaty. Torsten, I have explained how treaties work in this country. They must pass the senate. 100 Americans 2 from each state which give them a heavy conservitive bias. The majority of people of this country see no reason that others have any seventy over the US what so ever. We do not like the idea of progressive taxes. We don't like paying the lions share of he UN and we don't like doing you wet work and we will never allow a UN leader to lead US troop again after turning tail and running and living our boys to die. The Kyoto treaty has a better chance of passing than that one. The world can cry whine and get it's panties in a wad all it wants we will not put one Americans life in foreign hands after the way we have been treated. Too much of the world disagrees with the way we do things. We will not give them sacrificial lambs. I don't think it is right but people like you, France, South Africa and the Arab world we don't trust for a fair trial. Nor will this president make nice noises about it like the last one did about Kyoto knowing full well that less that 10 senators world vote for its passage. Gordon |
US Bully: Sign war crime immunity agreement, or lose veterinary program aid
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US Bully: Sign war crime immunity agreement, or lose veterinary program aid
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US Bully: Sign war crime immunity agreement, or lose veterinary program aid
"Torsten Brinch" wrote in message ... On 9 Jul 2003 00:34:34 -0700, (jitney) wrote: BTW, this is a science forum Nope, according to the sci.agriculture charter: "This newsgroup is intended for the discussion of any topics related to farming and agriculture." "Torsten Brinch" wrote in message ... 199 US casualties as at 28 June http://www.fallenheroesmemorial.com/chronlist.html min 5570 max 7243 reported Iraqi civilian casualties as at 29 June http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm We must take this opportunity to publically thank torsten for such useful agricultural statistics Jim Webster |
US Bully: Sign war crime immunity agreement, or lose veterinary program aid
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 03:13:02 -0500, "Gordon Couger"
wrote: "Torsten Brinch" wrote in message .. . Thus far, countries such as China, Cuba, North Korea, Iraq, USA, Libya, Burma, Pakistan, have refused to sign the ICC Treaty. I have explained how treaties work in this country. They must pass the senate. 100 Americans 2 from each state which give them a heavy conservitive bias. The majority of people of this country see no reason that others have any seventy over the US what so ever. We do not like the idea of progressive taxes. We don't like paying the lions share of he UN and we don't like doing you wet work and we will never allow a UN leader to lead US troop again after turning tail and running and living our boys to die. As librarian said, that's the funny thing about America: Always that dark undercurrent of racism, fervid nationalism, unhealthy patriotism, smug I-got-mine-ism, lethal NIMBYism, and pompous assertion of moral (and any other kind of) superiority at the drop of a bucket. The Kyoto treaty has a better chance of passing than that one. The world can cry whine and get it's panties in a wad all it wants we will not put one Americans life in foreign hands after the way we have been treated. Also funny, how lethargically many Americans default to regurgitating the propaganda lies their government has told them, despite having the best access to the most modern information technology in the world. FACT: The Court will have no jurisdiction over crimes committed on U.S. soil unless the United States ratifies its treaty. As regards American citizens accused of crimes overseas, they are already subject to foreign jurisdiction. This is a basic and well-established principle of international law. If an American citizen or service member is accused today of a serious crime in Japan or Germany, for example, Japan or Germany have the right to try him, even if the United States wants to prosecute the crime itself. Countries that ratify the Rome Treaty are simply exercising their sovereign right to allow an international court to prosecute certain crimes committed on their territory rather than conducting these trials themselves. Too much of the world disagrees with the way we do things. We will not give them sacrificial lambs. FACT: The ICC will provide defendants with greater due process rights and protections than many countries to which the United States extradites its own citizens. Moreover, unlike national courts that try Americans, it must defer to American justice when the United States is willing to investigate and prosecute an alleged crime itself. I don't think it is right but people like you, France, South Africa and the Arab world we don't trust for a fair trial. FACT: The ICC Treaty establishes strict criteria for the selection of the prosecutor and the judges, requiring experts whose reputation, moral character and independence are beyond reproach. They will be prohibited from any activity during their term in office that might jeopardize their independence, and will be excused from particular cases if there is any question of partiality. The judges will be accountable to an assembly of member states and can be removed by a simple vote of those countries in the unlikely event that they abuse their powers. |
US Bully: Sign war crime immunity agreement, or lose veterinary program aid
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