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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
Just curious what the 'latest' thinking was on killing cyanobacteria
with erythromycin was? Been reading The Krib, and this seems to be the best solution for my tank, which has a huge outbreak since removing my floating wisteria plants. |
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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
Xref: 127.0.0.1 rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants:72630
"Barry Byrne" wrote in message ... Just curious what the 'latest' thinking was on killing cyanobacteria with erythromycin was? Been reading The Krib, and this seems to be the best solution for my tank, which has a huge outbreak since removing my floating wisteria plants. Don't know what country you are in but here in the UK Erythromycin is not obtainable over the counter....if you do get some I would think you'd need to be quite careful with it - it is an antibiotic after all. Interpet seem to now do an anti-slime algae treatment - you might want to look into that (I've never tried it & have no idea what's in it!). I had a bit of Slime Algae in one of my tanks a couple of months ago - just sucking it out with a syphon over a week or two seems to have god rid of it & I havn't seen it since. rgds Iain |
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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
Spot treat it with H2O2. Cheap and effective and you're not messing
with antibiotics. "Barry Byrne" wrote in message ... Just curious what the 'latest' thinking was on killing cyanobacteria with erythromycin was? Been reading The Krib, and this seems to be the best solution for my tank, which has a huge outbreak since removing my floating wisteria plants. |
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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
"Iain Miller" wrote in message ...
"Barry Byrne" wrote in message ... Just curious what the 'latest' thinking was on killing cyanobacteria with erythromycin was? Been reading The Krib, and this seems to be the best solution for my tank, which has a huge outbreak since removing my floating wisteria plants. Don't know what country you are in but here in the UK Erythromycin is not obtainable over the counter....if you do get some I would think you'd need to be quite careful with it - it is an antibiotic after all. Interpet seem to now do an anti-slime algae treatment - you might want to look into that (I've never tried it & have no idea what's in it!). I had a bit of Slime Algae in one of my tanks a couple of months ago - just sucking it out with a syphon over a week or two seems to have god rid of it & I havn't seen it since. rgds Iain BGA is easy to get rid of in 3 days. Whether or not it comes back will be up to you. You'll know what to do next time you get it and why it often appears. 3 day black out. But you have to go in, clean well, trim, remove as much as you can first. Use a net, get rid of all detrital floating matter etc. Clean filter. Turn off CO2, do 50% water change(add KNO3 at this time), cover up so that no light at all gets in. Remove after 3 days, net up any junk, do a 50% water change, add all nutrients back into the tank. Now keep up on the NO3, PO4, K, Traces and most importantly, the CO2. The plants did not do well when you use an algicide, most plants don't since they have the same pathways algae do. That method is no better than a blackout. The key is to grow the plants well, not kill algae. You have algae because your plants are not doing well at some point for too long. Once you correct conditions in the tank, you need to remove the algae that is already there and established. THEN correct conditions. Don't correct conditions and expect the algae to keel over and die, attack the algae by removing it from the tank. That + good conditions takes care of most all algae issues. Herbivores top that process off and insure even more plants dominance. Better to take care of that before spending $ on algae kills and antibiotics not to mention your own time. You cannot do much without addressing CO2 levels/nutrient levels. Need to get at the root cause, not simply treat a symptom. Black out will kill the algae faster than the antibiotics and it doesn't cost a thing. Note: Blackout will cause the Gloss to become leggy, the other plants will be fine. Regards, Tom Barr |
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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
Ghori that sounds interesting. One of the tanks at home has a bad
case of a brownish slimy algae that covers everything (glass, plants, rocks, etc), its my father's tank and he has been fighting hard to get rid of the algae with "Algae Killer" and heavy water changes however so far no luck. The tank's water goes murky around midday and returns to clarity in the mornings and evenings. Weird!! What is the H2O2 method you mention? Pour some in the tank or pull the plants out and wash them in H2O2? Jeremy "Ghazanfar Ghori" wrote in message t... Spot treat it with H2O2. Cheap and effective and you're not messing with antibiotics. "Barry Byrne" wrote in message ... Just curious what the 'latest' thinking was on killing cyanobacteria with erythromycin was? Been reading The Krib, and this seems to be the best solution for my tank, which has a huge outbreak since removing my floating wisteria plants. |
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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
H2O2 works best on BGA. It has little effect on any other form.
Make sure you've got BGA. Its easy to tell if its BGA - its got a VERY distinct earthly smell, and its very soft - you can rub it off very easily. Usually its dark green in color. If that is indeed what you have, then read this... http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Algae/...-peroxide.html If its got your entire tank, it'll be hard to spot treat, and the amount of H202 you might endup using may hurt your plants a fish. Go with Tom Barrs reccomendation. If I see a little of it starting up (do to some kind of neglect or poor water circulation) I'll spot treat it and it goes away within 2 days. However, since you say its brownish, I have some doubts that you have BGA. You may have brown algae - diatoms. Add in 2 ottos per 10G of tank and they should be able to clean it off pretty quickly. Water getting hazy could be several things. It could be a slight case of green water or a bacteria bloom. |
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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
One of the tanks at home has a bad
case of a brownish slimy algae that covers everything (glass, plants, rocks, etc), its my father's tank and he has been fighting hard to get rid of the algae with "Algae Killer" and heavy water changes however so far no luck. For brown algae (which is what your father's tank seems to have), get an otocinclus catfish or three. They are small, and are happiest in groups, so get more than one, if you can. They will make short work of brown algae. But make sure the algae killer has cleared the tank before introducing any new fish. New fish tend to be stressed, and may not tolerate toxins well. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
Jeremy,
Do a Google search on a long writeup I did on my experiences with H2O2 and Cyanobacteria. It was posted on 5/2/03. Jeff "Jeremy Pemberton" wrote in message om... Ghori that sounds interesting. One of the tanks at home has a bad case of a brownish slimy algae that covers everything (glass, plants, rocks, etc), its my father's tank and he has been fighting hard to get rid of the algae with "Algae Killer" and heavy water changes however so far no luck. The tank's water goes murky around midday and returns to clarity in the mornings and evenings. Weird!! What is the H2O2 method you mention? Pour some in the tank or pull the plants out and wash them in H2O2? Jeremy "Ghazanfar Ghori" wrote in message t... Spot treat it with H2O2. Cheap and effective and you're not messing with antibiotics. "Barry Byrne" wrote in message ... Just curious what the 'latest' thinking was on killing cyanobacteria with erythromycin was? Been reading The Krib, and this seems to be the best solution for my tank, which has a huge outbreak since removing my floating wisteria plants. |
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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
H2O2 works best on BGA. It has little effect on any other form.
Make sure you've got BGA. Its easy to tell if its BGA - its got a VERY distinct earthly smell, and its very soft - you can rub it off very easily. Usually its dark green in color. If that is indeed what you have, then read this... http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Algae/...-peroxide.html If its got your entire tank, it'll be hard to spot treat, and the amount of H202 you might endup using may hurt your plants a fish. Go with Tom Barrs reccomendation. If I see a little of it starting up (do to some kind of neglect or poor water circulation) I'll spot treat it and it goes away within 2 days. However, since you say its brownish, I have some doubts that you have BGA. You may have brown algae - diatoms. Add in 2 ottos per 10G of tank and they should be able to clean it off pretty quickly. Water getting hazy could be several things. It could be a slight case of green water or a bacteria bloom. |
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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
One of the tanks at home has a bad
case of a brownish slimy algae that covers everything (glass, plants, rocks, etc), its my father's tank and he has been fighting hard to get rid of the algae with "Algae Killer" and heavy water changes however so far no luck. For brown algae (which is what your father's tank seems to have), get an otocinclus catfish or three. They are small, and are happiest in groups, so get more than one, if you can. They will make short work of brown algae. But make sure the algae killer has cleared the tank before introducing any new fish. New fish tend to be stressed, and may not tolerate toxins well. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
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Blue Green Algae (cyanobacteria) & Erythromycin
Jeremy,
Do a Google search on a long writeup I did on my experiences with H2O2 and Cyanobacteria. It was posted on 5/2/03. Jeff "Jeremy Pemberton" wrote in message om... Ghori that sounds interesting. One of the tanks at home has a bad case of a brownish slimy algae that covers everything (glass, plants, rocks, etc), its my father's tank and he has been fighting hard to get rid of the algae with "Algae Killer" and heavy water changes however so far no luck. The tank's water goes murky around midday and returns to clarity in the mornings and evenings. Weird!! What is the H2O2 method you mention? Pour some in the tank or pull the plants out and wash them in H2O2? Jeremy "Ghazanfar Ghori" wrote in message t... Spot treat it with H2O2. Cheap and effective and you're not messing with antibiotics. "Barry Byrne" wrote in message ... Just curious what the 'latest' thinking was on killing cyanobacteria with erythromycin was? Been reading The Krib, and this seems to be the best solution for my tank, which has a huge outbreak since removing my floating wisteria plants. |
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