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Shade + Large Dog = New Grass Needed
I have a shady back yard. I also have a large golden retriever who
likes to play and romp back there about 30 minutes a day. Needless to say, this combination has been hard on my grass, and I now have patches of bare earth that need to be covered. I've calculated how much will need to be re-sodded and have estimated it will take a little more than a pallet. My questions a 1. What sort of grass should I use? I've got St. Augestine, and it's not standing up to the dog. I've heard a lot about Zoysia and am leaning toward that. 2. What sort of compost should I use? Given the smell and the dog, I'm leaning away from the pure cow manure solution. |
Shade + Large Dog = New Grass Needed
On Tue, 30 May 2006 17:59:22 -0500, Victor Martinez
wrote: wrote: 1. What sort of grass should I use? I've got St. Augestine, and it's not standing up to the dog. I've heard a lot about Zoysia and am leaning toward that. Zoysia grasses are really awesome, though I'm not sure they've quite bred one that is dog-proof. :) 2. What sort of compost should I use? Given the smell and the dog, I'm leaning away from the pure cow manure solution. Compost made from manure does not smell like manure, it smells like dirt. Geo growers and The Natural Gardener both make very good products, check them out. I would add one thing to your statement: Natural Gardener has beautiful compost, but many times I've bought a yard of it while it was still hot. So, I'd bring it home and add vegetative matter and dry leaves and it would cook for about a month or so. If you can smell ammonia, the compost needs to rest before you plant in it. |
Shade + Large Dog = New Grass Needed
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oups.com... I have a shady back yard. I also have a large golden retriever who likes to play and romp back there about 30 minutes a day. Needless to say, this combination has been hard on my grass, and I now have patches of bare earth that need to be covered. I've calculated how much will need to be re-sodded and have estimated it will take a little more than a pallet. My questions a 1. What sort of grass should I use? I've got St. Augestine, and it's not standing up to the dog. I've heard a lot about Zoysia and am leaning toward that. 2. What sort of compost should I use? Given the smell and the dog, I'm leaning away from the pure cow manure solution. 1. The Palmetto and Raleigh varieties of St. Augustine. The regular strain is not shade tolerant. Zoysia is poor in shade tolerance. 2. Cow manure is not a good fertilizer. Stick with horse manure. Direct application is not advised. -- Jonny |
Shade + Large Dog = New Grass Needed
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:02:27 GMT, "Jonny"
wrote: 1. The Palmetto and Raleigh varieties of St. Augustine. The regular strain is not shade tolerant. Zoysia is poor in shade tolerance. All varieties will tolerate full sun or full shade. 2. Cow manure is not a good fertilizer. Stick with horse manure. Direct application is not advised. Horse manure is full of weed seeds. I would never use it again. |
Shade + Large Dog = New Grass Needed
In article , Jangchub wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:02:27 GMT, "Jonny" wrote: 1. The Palmetto and Raleigh varieties of St. Augustine. The regular strain is not shade tolerant. Zoysia is poor in shade tolerance. All varieties will tolerate full sun or full shade. I agree, the El Toro/Palisades Zoysia that I started from plugs is thriving, and spreading, in the shade where even St. Augustine would have a hard time. I have no experience on the dog tolerance issue though... scott |
Shade + Large Dog = New Grass Needed
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Shade + Large Dog = New Grass Needed
"Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:02:27 GMT, "Jonny" wrote: 1. The Palmetto and Raleigh varieties of St. Augustine. The regular strain is not shade tolerant. Zoysia is poor in shade tolerance. All varieties will tolerate full sun or full shade. Evidently, am not one with the same opinion. http://www.millergrass.com/varieties.htm 2. Cow manure is not a good fertilizer. Stick with horse manure. Direct application is not advised. Horse manure is full of weed seeds. I would never use it again. Both cows and horses may eat foliage that may contain seed. Whether either animal contacts seed is controllable. Saying horse only is rather suggestive that cows don't. Both cannot digest unchewed seeds. Horse manure is more fertile, more likely to burn if applied directly. -- Jonny |
Shade + Large Dog = New Grass Needed
On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:27:18 GMT, "Jonny"
wrote: Evidently, am not one with the same opinion. http://www.millergrass.com/varieties.htm The first statement on the website is saying St. Augustine is selected for it's shade tolerance. What part is not in agreement with what I said? Both cows and horses may eat foliage that may contain seed. Whether either animal contacts seed is controllable. Saying horse only is rather suggestive that cows don't. Both cannot digest unchewed seeds. Horse manure is more fertile, more likely to burn if applied directly. Which is why I said cow manure is much better than horse manure. Where's the argument? Cows absolutely do chew their seeds. They have grinding back teeth and they eat and chew their cud for hours and hours. They also have multiple stomachs, which horses don't. |
Shade + Large Dog = New Grass Needed
On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:21:07 GMT, "Jonny"
wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:27:18 GMT, "Jonny" wrote: Evidently, am not one with the same opinion. http://www.millergrass.com/varieties.htm The first statement on the website is saying St. Augustine is selected for it's shade tolerance. What part is not in agreement with what I said? Not sure what you said, you left that out in your last response. Your response before seemed to respond to zoysia from where I read it. But you left that out to, interesting. Both cows and horses may eat foliage that may contain seed. Whether either animal contacts seed is controllable. Saying horse only is rather suggestive that cows don't. Both cannot digest unchewed seeds. Horse manure is more fertile, more likely to burn if applied directly. Which is why I said cow manure is much better than horse manure. You never said why, then went on about seeds. Confusing at the least. But that information is gone now as was not included in your last response, interesting. Where's the argument? Cows absolutely do chew their seeds. They have grinding back teeth and they eat and chew their cud for hours and hours. They also have multiple stomachs, which horses don't. What's with the attitude? Your information was not correct. Nothing is lost, if you'd like me to repost what I said, I will. The fact is, cows absolutely digest differently than horses, rendering 99% of weed seeds not viable. AND all varieties of St. Augustine are absolutely shade tolerant. Both of these answers are different than yours. I have the facts, you have...who knows what. |
Shade + Large Dog = New Grass Needed
Jangchub wrote:
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:02:27 GMT, "Jonny" wrote: 1. The Palmetto and Raleigh varieties of St. Augustine. The regular strain is not shade tolerant. Zoysia is poor in shade tolerance. All varieties will tolerate full sun or full shade. 2. Cow manure is not a good fertilizer. Stick with horse manure. Direct application is not advised. Horse manure is full of weed seeds. I would never use it again. Chickensh*t is the best, but has to be aged or composted, as it's very hot! Sheep manure also has no weed seeds. Don't know if you can find that around here though. |
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