Kill Bermuda?
 

What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?

Kill Bermuda?
 

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"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
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What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?

Kill Bermuda?
 

The product you need is Fusilade.

It is marketed under several names:

Grass B Gone, Ornamec, Green Light Bermudagrass Killer

A similar product is Poast Herbicide. It has a different

active ingredient but is the same in that it ONLY kills

grasses leaving other plants unharmed.

HTH,

Chris in Arid Austin

USDA Zn. 8b Sunset Zn. 30

P.S. Make sure you don't accidentally spray your Prize

Clump Grasses as it'll take those out as well.



"Fred Johnson" wrote in message ...
What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?

Kill Bermuda?
 

I spent six hours yesterday removing it by hand, in a patch approximately 5x9
feet. Or you can poison the soil, lizards, toads, snakes and every other thing
and go the synthetic chemical way.


On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 05:24:38 GMT, "Fred Johnson" wrote:

What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?

Kill Bermuda?
 

A related question. Is there any type of mulch that Bermuda will not grow
in? When I had my house built the builder hydromulched the entire property
with Bermuda, apparently to minimize erosion during construction. Now I
have Bermuda everywhere.


Mark


"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
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What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?

Kill Bermuda?
 

"animaux" wrote in message
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| I spent six hours yesterday removing it by hand, in a patch
approximately 5x9
| feet. Or you can poison the soil, lizards, toads, snakes and every
other thing
| and go the synthetic chemical way.
|
|
| On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 05:24:38 GMT, "Fred Johnson"
wrote:
|
| What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?
|
|
|

We've been working on a patch of Bermuda grass for decades and it just
won't quit. Now it's making a crack running halfway across the street
and growing wider every day! We've managed to sort of contain it but
never beat it back entirely.

Kill Bermuda?
 

Bermuda will grow no matter what you do. I've had bermuda come up through at
least a four foot deep pile of mulch (cedar and pine) The problem with it is
it's ability to lay dormant. Not an easy one.

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:52:55 GMT, "Mark A. Luna" wrote:

A related question. Is there any type of mulch that Bermuda will not grow
in? When I had my house built the builder hydromulched the entire property
with Bermuda, apparently to minimize erosion during construction. Now I
have Bermuda everywhere.


Mark


"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
...
What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?

Kill Bermuda?
 

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:51:27 GMT, "Texensis"
wrote:


We've been working on a patch of Bermuda grass for decades and it just
won't quit. Now it's making a crack running halfway across the street
and growing wider every day! We've managed to sort of contain it but
never beat it back entirely.


I am not too sure if Finale is a broad leaf or full spectrum herbicide, but if
it will work on turf it's the better of the two, Round Up or Finale. If it is
judiciously painted on the blades, it may not be too harmful. Now, this goes
against everything I stand for, so I'm choking this out. I hate the ongoing
loosening and pulling I do each year, but each year a little less grows than the
year before. As I loosen and pull, I get more and more of the root because I
boost the tilth of the soil with compost. Looser soil makes it easier to pull
the full root and be done with that piece.

Kill Bermuda?
 

"animaux" wrote in message
...
| Bermuda will grow no matter what you do. I've had bermuda come up
through at
| least a four foot deep pile of mulch (cedar and pine) The problem
with it is
| it's ability to lay dormant. Not an easy one.
|
snip|

And it needs n-o water to survive. Still yanking it up after all these
years.....

Kill Bermuda?
 

In article ,
"Texensis" wrote:

"animaux" wrote in message
...
| Bermuda will grow no matter what you do. I've had bermuda come up
through at
| least a four foot deep pile of mulch (cedar and pine) The problem
with it is
| it's ability to lay dormant. Not an easy one.
|
snip|

And it needs n-o water to survive. Still yanking it up after all these
years.....

Does any kind of edging keep it out and contained? Around campus they
seem to be able to keep bermuda and beds separated so it appears to be
possible. While there is a landscaping crew it is not terribly intensive
so this seems to be achieved with minimal human input.

I wanted to be sure I bought edging of sufficient depth/height to achieve
the same end.

Roland

Kill Bermuda?
 

On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:15:09 -0500, (Joe Doe) wrote:


Does any kind of edging keep it out and contained? Around campus they
seem to be able to keep bermuda and beds separated so it appears to be
possible. While there is a landscaping crew it is not terribly intensive
so this seems to be achieved with minimal human input.

I wanted to be sure I bought edging of sufficient depth/height to achieve
the same end.

Roland

I have no idea if they use herbicides to maintain it. However, if you buy
edging, it should be at least 6 inches deep into the soil, and above the soil
the same. Don't leave any chinks in it or the bermuda will definitely migrate
over. Constant weeding it out and loosening soil to get the whole root will be
endless, but it can be done if you keep on top of it. Mid summer when it's 140
in the sun is hopeless. I bought a cheap 9 foot umbrella at Sam's Club and I
hammered pvc pipe into the soil all around so when I weed I can have some shade
on me.

V

Kill Bermuda?
 

"Joe Doe" wrote in message
...
| In article
,
| "Texensis" wrote:
|
| "animaux" wrote in message
| ...
| | Bermuda will grow no matter what you do. I've had bermuda come
up
| through at
| | least a four foot deep pile of mulch (cedar and pine) The
problem
| with it is
| | it's ability to lay dormant. Not an easy one.
| |
| snip|
|
| And it needs n-o water to survive. Still yanking it up after all
these
| years.....
|
| Does any kind of edging keep it out and contained? Around campus
they
| seem to be able to keep bermuda and beds separated so it appears to
be
| possible. While there is a landscaping crew it is not terribly
intensive
| so this seems to be achieved with minimal human input.
|
| I wanted to be sure I bought edging of sufficient depth/height to
achieve
| the same end.
|
| Roland

I've seen metal edging pounded very deep and done in a double row
separated by a deep and maintained trench (not very wide, though)
between a Bermuda yard and a St. A yard where ne'er the twin did meet.

Kill Bermuda?
 

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:52:33 GMT, animaux wrote:

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:51:27 GMT, "Texensis"
wrote:


We've been working on a patch of Bermuda grass for decades and it just
won't quit. Now it's making a crack running halfway across the street
and growing wider every day! We've managed to sort of contain it but
never beat it back entirely.


I am not too sure if Finale is a broad leaf or full spectrum herbicide, but if
it will work on turf it's the better of the two, Round Up or Finale. If it is
judiciously painted on the blades, it may not be too harmful. Now, this goes
against everything I stand for, so I'm choking this out.

:-)

Finale' is full spectrum but in my experience isn't very effective
against Bermuda. It's not readily translocated and acts primarily at
the point of contact. The bermuda leaves will die back and you think
you've got it, but new shoots quickly reappear from the (apparently)
unaffected stolons.

On the positive side, glufosinate is a natural compound. It's poor
movement into the root zone reduces the chance of toxicity to
surrounding plants. Also it's said to have a short half-life and break
down into harmless carbon compounds in the soil. However it is only
slightly less toxic "out of the bottle" than Roundup, so anyone
wishing to try Finale should use appropriate precautions.

I hate the ongoing loosening and pulling I do each year, but each
year a little less grows than the year before. As I loosen and pull,
I get more and more of the root because I boost the tilth of the soil
with compost. Looser soil makes it easier to pull
the full root and be done with that piece.

The patience of Jobe. :-)

Kill Bermuda?
 

On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:39:42 GMT, (Terry Horton) wrote:


The patience of Jobe. :-)

Also known as: "My compliance IS my defiance!" I've been unwavering in my
plight to do things to support nature. You will never see RoundUp in my tool
shed.

Kill Bermuda?
 

gasoline and a match?


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On Thu, 01 May 2003 02:06:00 GMT, "Norma Briggs" wrote:

gasoline and a match?

There will be people who will now go do that. One never knows what jerks lurk.

Kill Bermuda?
 

Jeshh...it was a joke already....
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On Thu, 01 May 2003 02:06:00 GMT, "Norma Briggs"
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gasoline and a match?

There will be people who will now go do that. One never knows what jerks
lurk.


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Kill Bermuda?
 

One can only go so far in defense of the safety of morons. BTW, I have
heard that lighting your toes on fire will kill bermuda grass. Have you
heard that?
gary


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On Thu, 01 May 2003 02:06:00 GMT, "Norma Briggs"

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gasoline and a match?

There will be people who will now go do that. One never knows what
jerks
lurk.


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On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 23:29:43 GMT, animaux wrote:

On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:39:42 GMT, (Terry Horton) wrote:


The patience of Jobe. :-)

Also known as: "My compliance IS my defiance!" I've been unwavering in my
plight to do things to support nature. You will never see RoundUp in my tool
shed.

Same here.

I've got one noxious hillside I've given up on weeding. Going to
solarize it this month, start with a clean slate.

Kill Bermuda?
 

On Thu, 01 May 2003 04:52:05 GMT, "Norma Briggs" wrote:

Jeshh...it was a joke already....

I know it was a joke. I wasn't criticizing you. Rather, pointing out how
idiotic people can be.

Kill Bermuda?
 

On Thu, 01 May 2003 17:46:07 GMT, (Terry Horton) wrote:


Same here.

I've got one noxious hillside I've given up on weeding. Going to
solarize it this month, start with a clean slate.

I did that in the back where I put the paths in. Now I have to order the
decomposed granite. I am using that instead of anything impermeable to allow
for wildflower seeds to germinate in the paths.

V

Kill Bermuda?
 

That's nice. I love nature too. I have plenty of RoundUp and Lorsban. Good
stuff. Tough to kill some of these things. They've been around for millions
of years. Couple go to the grave early aint going to hurt anything.


"animaux" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:39:42 GMT, (Terry Horton)
wrote:


The patience of Jobe. :-)

Also known as: "My compliance IS my defiance!" I've been unwavering in
my
plight to do things to support nature. You will never see RoundUp in my
tool
shed.

Kill Bermuda?
 

On Tue, 13 May 2003 12:45:59 GMT, "Fred Johnson" wrote:

That's nice. I love nature too. I have plenty of RoundUp and Lorsban. Good
stuff. Tough to kill some of these things. They've been around for millions
of years. Couple go to the grave early aint going to hurt anything.

Perhaps, though your family may miss you.

Kill Bermuda?
 

You are an asshole.


On Tue, 13 May 2003 12:45:59 GMT, "Fred Johnson" wrote:

That's nice. I love nature too. I have plenty of RoundUp and Lorsban. Good
stuff. Tough to kill some of these things. They've been around for millions
of years. Couple go to the grave early aint going to hurt anything.


"animaux" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:39:42 GMT, (Terry Horton)
wrote:


The patience of Jobe. :-)

Also known as: "My compliance IS my defiance!" I've been unwavering in
my
plight to do things to support nature. You will never see RoundUp in my
tool
shed.

Kill Bermuda?
 

Nice mouth. You kiss your kids with that?


"animaux" wrote in message
...
You are an asshole.


On Tue, 13 May 2003 12:45:59 GMT, "Fred Johnson" wrote:

That's nice. I love nature too. I have plenty of RoundUp and Lorsban.
Good
stuff. Tough to kill some of these things. They've been around for
millions
of years. Couple go to the grave early aint going to hurt anything.


"animaux" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:39:42 GMT, (Terry Horton)
wrote:


The patience of Jobe. :-)

Also known as: "My compliance IS my defiance!" I've been unwavering
in
my
plight to do things to support nature. You will never see RoundUp in
my
tool
shed.

Kill Bermuda?
 

On Wed, 14 May 2003 05:19:34 GMT, "Fred Johnson" wrote:

Nice

plonk.

Kill Bermuda?
 

It must be a terrible responsibility to be an expert on every subject.
"animaux" wrote in message
...
Bermuda will grow no matter what you do. I've had bermuda come up through
at
least a four foot deep pile of mulch (cedar and pine) The problem with it
is
it's ability to lay dormant. Not an easy one.

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:52:55 GMT, "Mark A. Luna"
wrote:

A related question. Is there any type of mulch that Bermuda will not
grow
in? When I had my house built the builder hydromulched the entire
property
with Bermuda, apparently to minimize erosion during construction. Now I
have Bermuda everywhere.


Mark


"Fred Johnson" wrote in message
...
What will kill Bermuda grass Tifway, but not harm other things?

Kill Bermuda?
 

It must be a terrible responsibility to be an expert on every subject.
"animaux" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:15:09 -0500, (Joe Doe) wrote:


Does any kind of edging keep it out and contained? Around campus they
seem to be able to keep bermuda and beds separated so it appears to be
possible. While there is a landscaping crew it is not terribly
intensive
so this seems to be achieved with minimal human input.

I wanted to be sure I bought edging of sufficient depth/height to
achieve
the same end.

Roland

I have no idea if they use herbicides to maintain it. However, if you buy
edging, it should be at least 6 inches deep into the soil, and above the
soil
the same. Don't leave any chinks in it or the bermuda will definitely
migrate
over. Constant weeding it out and loosening soil to get the whole root
will be
endless, but it can be done if you keep on top of it. Mid summer when
it's 140
in the sun is hopeless. I bought a cheap 9 foot umbrella at Sam's Club
and I
hammered pvc pipe into the soil all around so when I weed I can have some
shade
on me.

V

Kill Bermuda?
 

It must be a terrible responsibility to be an expert on every subject.
"animaux" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:51:27 GMT, "Texensis"
wrote:


We've been working on a patch of Bermuda grass for decades and it just
won't quit. Now it's making a crack running halfway across the street
and growing wider every day! We've managed to sort of contain it but
never beat it back entirely.


I am not too sure if Finale is a broad leaf or full spectrum herbicide,
but if
it will work on turf it's the better of the two, Round Up or Finale. If
it is
judiciously painted on the blades, it may not be too harmful. Now, this
goes
against everything I stand for, so I'm choking this out. I hate the
ongoing
loosening and pulling I do each year, but each year a little less grows
than the
year before. As I loosen and pull, I get more and more of the root
because I
boost the tilth of the soil with compost. Looser soil makes it easier to
pull
the full root and be done with that piece.

Kill Bermuda?
 

It must be a terrible responsibility to be an expert on every subject.
"animaux" wrote in message
...
You are an asshole.


On Tue, 13 May 2003 12:45:59 GMT, "Fred Johnson" wrote:

That's nice. I love nature too. I have plenty of RoundUp and Lorsban.
Good
stuff. Tough to kill some of these things. They've been around for
millions
of years. Couple go to the grave early aint going to hurt anything.


"animaux" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:39:42 GMT, (Terry Horton)
wrote:


The patience of Jobe. :-)

Also known as: "My compliance IS my defiance!" I've been unwavering
in
my
plight to do things to support nature. You will never see RoundUp in
my
tool
shed.