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Bickering New Yorkers: was Nitrate fertilizers and airport security
Howdy folks.
In regards to this message: I am a native New Yorker. I have a big mouth, I'm abrasive and I have definite beliefs in nature and all its myriad delights. Actually, I'm a also a native New Yorker, came to Austin in the seventies, as was also my mother born and raised on the upper East Side of Manhattan. She raised me with the stern warning that having a big mouth and being abrasive was a quality of taxi drivers and not necessarily New Yorkers in general. As she used to caution me, watch your language, you don't want to sound like you're from Brooklyn. I hope we are providing some entertainment for the Native Texans in the group. That could be of some small value in these difficult times. Time to go enjoy the myriad delights of Nature, or more specifically get some weeding done in the garden Steve Coyle |
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Bickering New Yorkers: was Nitrate fertilizers and airport security
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 18:13:55 -0500, Libralove wrote:
Actually, I'm a also a native New Yorker, came to Austin in the seventies, as was also my mother born and raised on the upper East Side of Manhattan. She raised me with the stern warning that having a big mouth and being abrasive was a quality of taxi drivers and not necessarily New Yorkers in general. As she used to caution me, watch your language, you don't want to sound like you're from Brooklyn. Geez... what an elitist broad who raised you! :/ I have lots of friends in Brooklyn. What's the problem with sounding like being from Brooklyn? I love that Mel Brooks Brooklyn attitude! Get over yourself! Exactly. I was raised to be culturally and racially tolerant. I was raised by people who actually had sex, loved cinema, father was a hair dresser(lost him ten years ago and still cry when I see his photo), mother is a social worker, now married to a black man, liberal background, complete with New York attitude which is superior in friendliness than any Texas born I'd met, to date. And still, with all of that, I am more than willing to wait or be detained at the airport security gate for whatever it takes to insure we have a safe flight. Perhaps if they'd been doing this all along we would not have had to watch the Twin Towers (which I watched being built because at that time we lived in what is now called, Tribecca) and lost many thousands of lives. It takes quite a bit to terrorize a New Yorker, and that event tops them all. I'm sorry if I feel justified in agreeing with detention at the airport. |
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Bickering New Yorkers: was Nitrate fertilizers and airport security
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Perhaps if they'd been doing this all along we would not have had to watch the Twin Towers (which I watched being built because at that time we lived in what is now called, Tribecca) and lost many thousands of lives. Wow, Tribeca in the early seventies?? Does French Onion soup at Magoo's, reggae on the juke box at Barnabus Rex, dancing at Prescott's or a 4:am egg cream on Canal ring a bell? Just curious. Steve Coyle |
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Bickering New Yorkers: was Nitrate fertilizers and airport security
Howdy folks,
In regards to this exchange: Wow, Tribeca in the early seventies?? Does French Onion soup at Magoo's, reggae on the juke box at Barnabus Rex, dancing at Prescott's or a 4:am egg cream on Canal ring a bell? Just curious. Steve Coyle Unless you didn't understand the sentence: "...what is NOW called Tribeca..." maybe you should remain curious. Don't mind the added "c" which happened as I typed without seeing my typo. I held the key too long. The places I mentioned were on going around the time the Towers were wrapping up. That was a great scene, second only to Liberty Lunch before the roof went up and the Armadillo here in Austin. For etymology nuts, it was originally spelled out as TriBeCa, for 'Triangle Below Canal'. Tourist guides to NYC talk about Tribeca as a neighborhood formed in the 'eighties' which I guess was when Robert DiNero and the big wigs started moving in, which put it on the map. The neighborhood was already in progress long before, ( and being called TriBeCa ) with a lot of artists and musicians doing loft conversions. I always thought since it was south of SoHo, ( South of Houston ) it could have been called 'SoSoHo' but that never cought on. Of course, the landlords in the seventies did the standard NYC rip off of renting trashed out industrial spaces on five year leases to struggling artist types, who would put a lot of sweat into fixing the places up and then at the end of the lease the landlord would turn around and sell it as a condo to the well to do . I was in a huge loft with two other artists, and we had canvases, a stereo, mattresses and a capuchino machine and virtually nothing else, it was a lot of fun. I've enjoyed the irony of the Bickering New Yorkers having been in the same neighborhood, long ago and far away. I hope everyone who traveled got back from their July Fourth weekend,safe and sound. ( and without nitrate fertilizers on their shoes ) Steve Coyle www.austingardencenter.com |
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Bickering New Yorkers: was Nitrate fertilizers and airport security
Howdy folks,
In regards to this snippet Also, I do not SOUND like I'm from New York. The fact is, I am from there. Born in Rapid City, SD and moved to NY at age 3 mos. I'm not ashamed to sound like I'm from there. I'm not white bread, but thanks for the little Texan in You driven little lesson. Actually the idea of ' watching your language' was a reference to choice of words and usage, and not accent. As the good Dr.Bordie, a retired UT prof who taught language acquisition, ( and literacy acquisition , and is a serious gardener here in town ) used to say: Accent is arbitrary and local and studies have shown that one's accent is strongly correlated to one's identification of place, which explains why some folks drop their accent's quickly upon moving to a new region and other's hang on for a lifetime. More important than accent, I try to be very aware of language because aside from the notion of 'right speech' being critical to 'right thinking', words are your little ambassadors you send out into the world to represent you, and particularly in a technology like we are using, they are stored and archived and will be available for browsing, by who knows how many and for who knows how long to come. I can imagine my grandchgildren long after I'm going pulling files off the net to get a sense of who I was ( "Hey mom, in real life, was gramps always such a windbag?" ) So yes, I think one should stay attuned to how they communicate. take care,have fun Steve Coyle www.austingardencenter.com |
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Bickering New Yorkers: was Nitrate fertilizers and airport security
Howdy folks,
In regards to this snippet Also, I do not SOUND like I'm from New York. The fact is, I am from there. Born in Rapid City, SD and moved to NY at age 3 mos. I'm not ashamed to sound like I'm from there. I'm not white bread, but thanks for the little Texan in You driven little lesson. Actually the idea of ' watching your language' was a reference to choice of words and usage, and not accent. As the good Dr.Bordie, a retired UT prof who taught language acquisition, ( and literacy acquisition , and is a serious gardener here in town ) used to say: Accent is arbitrary and local and studies have shown that one's accent is strongly correlated to one's identification of place, which explains why some folks drop their accent's quickly upon moving to a new region and other's hang on for a lifetime. More important than accent, I try to be very aware of language because aside from the notion of 'right speech' being critical to 'right thinking', words are your little ambassadors you send out into the world to represent you, and particularly in a technology like we are using, they are stored and archived and will be available for browsing, by who knows how many and for who knows how long to come. I can imagine my grandchgildren long after I'm going pulling files off the net to get a sense of who I was ( "Hey mom, in real life, was gramps always such a windbag?" ) So yes, I think one should stay attuned to how they communicate. take care,have fun Steve Coyle www.austingardencenter.com |
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