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Judith Lea 26-07-2005 11:59 AM

Advice on how to stop spam
 
Could anyone tell me how to stop newsgroup spam - I have reported it to
Demon but nothing seems to be happening - is there anything I can do
this end?
--
Judith Lea

Mike 26-07-2005 12:22 PM


"Judith Lea" wrote in message
...
Could anyone tell me how to stop newsgroup spam - I have reported it to
Demon but nothing seems to be happening - is there anything I can do
this end?
--
Judith Lea


If it is Demon they won't do anything. The spam is not being fed out by one
of their clients. They will only attack you as a Demon client if someone
makes a complaint against you. They will act against you first, then ask
questions.

Been there, done that, threatened Solicitor action, got the apology.

Mike
Who never knowingly tells lies



Mike 26-07-2005 12:34 PM


and doesn't use Demon anymore?
--


:-))

correct :-))



Sacha 26-07-2005 01:32 PM

On 26/7/05 12:30, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:59:51 +0100, Judith Lea
wrote:

Could anyone tell me how to stop newsgroup spam - I have reported it to
Demon but nothing seems to be happening - is there anything I can do
this end?


Try filtering out the subject and the posters?


Nobody can filter the amount of junk that's been sent to this group lately.
Judith needs an ISP that helps to do some of that. Freeserve, who I used,
seemed to stop a lot of it, but not all of it.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


[email protected] 26-07-2005 01:41 PM

Sacha wrote:
On 26/7/05 12:30, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:59:51 +0100, Judith Lea
wrote:

Could anyone tell me how to stop newsgroup spam - I have reported it to
Demon but nothing seems to be happening - is there anything I can do
this end?


Try filtering out the subject and the posters?


Nobody can filter the amount of junk that's been sent to this group lately.
Judith needs an ISP that helps to do some of that. Freeserve, who I used,
seemed to stop a lot of it, but not all of it.


.... but with a decent newsreader it's trivial to ignore even that huge
amount of junk. It took me only a few seconds to realise what had
happened, look to see if anything interesting was interspersed and
then 'mark as read' the whole lot.

--
Chris Green


Martin Brown 26-07-2005 02:22 PM

Judith Lea wrote:

Could anyone tell me how to stop newsgroup spam - I have reported it to
Demon but nothing seems to be happening - is there anything I can do
this end?


The short answer is you can't reliably, but if you are prepared to
accept a small risk of collateral damage block the zones of the internet
that are littered with open mail relays and dozy sysops - notably:

*.hk
*.kr

Ask on d.i.s.turnpike for details of a custom rule to do it.

I think Custom rule reject /^X-Trace.*\.kr/h
or something like ought to do it NB UNTESTED

It will also bin anything posted by legit Hong kong users into u.r.g
Try it at your own risk!

Regards,
Martin Brown

Ceri Davies 26-07-2005 03:54 PM

On 2005-07-26, Martin wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:32:41 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 26/7/05 12:30, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:59:51 +0100, Judith Lea
wrote:

Could anyone tell me how to stop newsgroup spam - I have reported it to
Demon but nothing seems to be happening - is there anything I can do
this end?

Try filtering out the subject and the posters?


Nobody can filter the amount of junk that's been sent to this group lately.
Judith needs an ISP that helps to do some of that. Freeserve, who I used,
seemed to stop a lot of it, but not all of it.


Somebody claimed to have filtered the whole lot. I only got one big
burst of troll messages.


This basically got them all, but I doubt that there are many slrn users
he

[uk.rec.gardening]
Sco =-9999 % Spamming ****
Expires: 12/31/2008
% Kill anything with one of these in
{::
NNTP-Posting-Host: 221.124.129.*
NNTP-Posting-Host: 222.106.21.*
X-Complaints-To:

Path: .*kornet.net.*
}

Ceri
--
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.)

Bob Hobden 26-07-2005 03:57 PM


"Sacha" wrote after...
"Martin" wrote in reply to Judith Lea

Could anyone tell me how to stop newsgroup spam - I have reported it to
Demon but nothing seems to be happening - is there anything I can do
this end?


Try filtering out the subject and the posters?


Nobody can filter the amount of junk that's been sent to this group
lately.
Judith needs an ISP that helps to do some of that. Freeserve, who I used,
seemed to stop a lot of it, but not all of it.

http://news.individual.net did a good job, well worth the 10 EUR (few £'s) a
year, some spam/crossposted junk appeared for a few hours then disappeared
when they caught up.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London



[email protected] 26-07-2005 04:00 PM

Ceri Davies wrote:

Somebody claimed to have filtered the whole lot. I only got one big
burst of troll messages.


This basically got them all, but I doubt that there are many slrn users
he

[uk.rec.gardening]
Sco =-9999 % Spamming ****
Expires: 12/31/2008
% Kill anything with one of these in
{::
NNTP-Posting-Host: 221.124.129.*
NNTP-Posting-Host: 222.106.21.*
X-Complaints-To:
Path: .*kornet.net.*
}

But was it worth the effort of doing even that, the IP addresses will
be different next time around (probably) so that's only a one off
filter. With slrn (as with tin that I use) it's a matter of only a
few seconds to skip past all the junk and then mark it as read.

--
Chris Green


Sacha 26-07-2005 04:10 PM

On 26/7/05 13:41, in article ,
" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 26/7/05 12:30, in article
,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:59:51 +0100, Judith Lea
wrote:

Could anyone tell me how to stop newsgroup spam - I have reported it to
Demon but nothing seems to be happening - is there anything I can do
this end?

Try filtering out the subject and the posters?


Nobody can filter the amount of junk that's been sent to this group lately.
Judith needs an ISP that helps to do some of that. Freeserve, who I used,
seemed to stop a lot of it, but not all of it.


... but with a decent newsreader it's trivial to ignore even that huge
amount of junk. It took me only a few seconds to realise what had
happened, look to see if anything interesting was interspersed and
then 'mark as read' the whole lot.


So what would you recommend Judith to use?
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Ceri Davies 26-07-2005 04:36 PM

On 2005-07-26, wrote:
Ceri Davies wrote:

Somebody claimed to have filtered the whole lot. I only got one big
burst of troll messages.


This basically got them all, but I doubt that there are many slrn users
he

[uk.rec.gardening]
Sco =-9999 % Spamming ****
Expires: 12/31/2008
% Kill anything with one of these in
{::
NNTP-Posting-Host: 221.124.129.*
NNTP-Posting-Host: 222.106.21.*
X-Complaints-To:

Path: .*kornet.net.*
}

But was it worth the effort of doing even that, the IP addresses will
be different next time around (probably) so that's only a one off
filter.


Not really; it kills "anything with one of th[o]se in", as per the
comment.

With slrn (as with tin that I use) it's a matter of only a
few seconds to skip past all the junk and then mark it as read.


Assuming that the junk comes in blocks.

Either way, I have no desire to argue over whether this or that is a
good solution. I was simply pointing out that it was trivially possible
to get rid of all the crap posts having looked at two of them.

Ceri
--
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the former. -- Einstein (attrib.)

Jaques d'Alltrades 26-07-2005 07:15 PM

The message k
from Sacha contains these words:

Nobody can filter the amount of junk that's been sent to this group lately.
Judith needs an ISP that helps to do some of that. Freeserve, who I used,
seemed to stop a lot of it, but not all of it.


Ahem!

I know at least one ISP that does.

--
Rusty
Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Jaques d'Alltrades 26-07-2005 07:18 PM

The message
from contains these words:

.... but with a decent newsreader it's trivial to ignore even that huge
amount of junk. It took me only a few seconds to realise what had
happened, look to see if anything interesting was interspersed and
then 'mark as read' the whole lot.


Depends on the newsreader - with an offline one like ours, and using the
system of compressed packets, you get the lot. However, the Zetgods are
very accommodating when it comes to blocking malicious stuff.

--
Rusty
Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Jaques d'Alltrades 26-07-2005 07:20 PM

The message
from contains these words:

But was it worth the effort of doing even that, the IP addresses will
be different next time around (probably) so that's only a one off
filter. With slrn (as with tin that I use) it's a matter of only a
few seconds to skip past all the junk and then mark it as read.


Only if you can do it on the server.

--
Rusty
Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Charlie Pridham 26-07-2005 07:21 PM


"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , writes
Sacha wrote:
On 26/7/05 12:30, in article

,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:59:51 +0100, Judith Lea
wrote:

Could anyone tell me how to stop newsgroup spam - I have reported it

to
Demon but nothing seems to be happening - is there anything I can do
this end?

Try filtering out the subject and the posters?


Hardly. A mailbomb attack depends on each of the 1000 or so emails
having a different subject and apparent poster.

Nobody can filter the amount of junk that's been sent to this group

lately.
Judith needs an ISP that helps to do some of that. Freeserve, who I

used,
seemed to stop a lot of it, but not all of it.


... but with a decent newsreader it's trivial to ignore even that huge
amount of junk. It took me only a few seconds to realise what had
happened, look to see if anything interesting was interspersed and
then 'mark as read' the whole lot.

Fine if you have broadband but a pain if you have to wait for that lot
to download over a phone connection.

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Well as soon as I saw the number of headers I assumed this was not all my
missing posts :~) and stopped after down loading all the headers, all the
Urg stuff was at one end so I just marked everything as read then marked the
urg messages as unread and flagged them to down load next time, bit of a
pain but certainly not bad enough to change anything and I am using OE. took
about 60 seconds to sort.
I did not look at the other stuff, where did it come from? (I know someone
said it was from Hongkong) surely no one would bother to make up that many
messages just to annoy a few gardeners?

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)




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