Arum lily advice sought...
 

Hi,


I was given a clump of what I think are Arum Lillies last year - just
stuck 'em in the ground in September (I think) in a nice bit of farmyard
manure and watched them grow this summer to about 1.2m and four
beautiful white flowers in June. I've just been given a few more of the
same lilies, and I'm wondering if this is the best time of year to plant
them, or should I just leave them is a dark dry place and plant them in
March.

The established plant looks in great condition, should I dig it up or
just leave it in the ground for the winter?

Thanks,

Hugh

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These corms like it wet wet wet; they are not A Lilly.
In fact one of the best ways of keeping them frost free is to grow them a
couple of inches under water in a pond. So best not to let them dry out.
How hardy; will depend on the variety and what part of the UK you are in.
My Uncle in South Wales near the coast has dug all his up as they were
taking over. Mild and damp!
Suspect their hardiness is now less of a problem as the winters get milder.
I don't have any problems with the white ones in Surrey; the coloured ones
are a different matter.
I'd plant them now to keep them damp: leave the established ones in the
ground.
Roddy

"Hugh Chaloner" wrote in message
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Hi,


I was given a clump of what I think are Arum Lillies last year - just
stuck 'em in the ground in September (I think) in a nice bit of farmyard
manure and watched them grow this summer to about 1.2m and four
beautiful white flowers in June. I've just been given a few more of the
same lilies, and I'm wondering if this is the best time of year to plant
them, or should I just leave them is a dark dry place and plant them in
March.

The established plant looks in great condition, should I dig it up or
just leave it in the ground for the winter?

Thanks,

Hugh

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On 15/8/05 20:48, in article ,
"roddy" wrote:

These corms like it wet wet wet; they are not A Lilly.
In fact one of the best ways of keeping them frost free is to grow them a
couple of inches under water in a pond. So best not to let them dry out.
How hardy; will depend on the variety and what part of the UK you are in.
My Uncle in South Wales near the coast has dug all his up as they were
taking over. Mild and damp!
Suspect their hardiness is now less of a problem as the winters get milder.
I don't have any problems with the white ones in Surrey; the coloured ones
are a different matter.
I'd plant them now to keep them damp: leave the established ones in the
ground.
snip

I realise the accepted wisdom is that Arums like to be very damp but we have
two large clumps at the bottom of our garden which flower like crazy. It's
possibly the driest part of the garden where the soil can crack wide open in
dry weather. It has a certain amount of shade, though not deep. I think
it's not absolutely essential to plant Arums in damp areas.
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Sacha
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In article ,
Sacha writes:
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| I realise the accepted wisdom is that Arums like to be very damp but we have
| two large clumps at the bottom of our garden which flower like crazy. It's
| possibly the driest part of the garden where the soil can crack wide open in
| dry weather. It has a certain amount of shade, though not deep. I think
| it's not absolutely essential to plant Arums in damp areas.

It certainly depends on the species. Lords and Ladies grows in
places that dry out in summer, and Crete has several that take
dessicated conditions in summer.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Nick Maclaren wrote:
Sacha writes:

I realise the accepted wisdom is that Arums like to be very damp
but we have two large clumps at the bottom of our garden which
flower like crazy. It's possibly the driest part of the garden
where the soil can crack wide open in dry weather. It has a
certain amount of shade, though not deep. I think it's not
absolutely essential to plant Arums in damp areas.

It certainly depends on the species. Lords and Ladies grows in
places that dry out in summer, and Crete has several that take
dessicated conditions in summer.

If the OP is talking about the white 'Calla lilies' or Zantedeschia
aethiopica, they seem to thrive in a wide range of conditions. I always
thought I'd never be able to grow it in the open ground but two of my
neighbours have large, well-flowering clumps. One told me she doesn't give
it extra water, except in really droughty conditions, and our soil is very
light and sandy. That's another thing added to my steadily growing 'wants'
list.

Hugh, I'd be inclined to plant the new one out in a suitable spot, keeping
it well watered while it's settling in, and leave the established plant
where it is but give it a protective mulch later in the year if you're in a
cold area.

--
Sue

Sue wrote:

Hugh, I'd be inclined to plant the new one out in a suitable spot, keeping
it well watered while it's settling in, and leave the established plant
where it is but give it a protective mulch later in the year if you're in a
cold area.

--
Sue


Thanks Sue.


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I have an Arum lilly in a pot, given to me this year, only 1 flower
but grown on very well and now quite 'dense'
I am wondering what to do for the winter as I would like to keep it in
the pot, all the time. Also a bit of root broke off which I put into
another pot......... forgot about, and is now poking leaves through. I
would like to plant this in the garden (next year?) ANY advice please.

M

Jack Ouzzi wrote:
I have an Arum lilly in a pot, given to me this year, only 1 flower
but grown on very well and now quite 'dense'
I am wondering what to do for the winter as I would like to keep it in
the pot, all the time. Also a bit of root broke off which I put into
another pot......... forgot about, and is now poking leaves through. I
would like to plant this in the garden (next year?) ANY advice please.

M


Since I moved my Arum lilly (in a plastic pot) to stand with its feet in
my pond, a couple of years ago, it has shot up, masses of growth and
loads of flowers. I leave it there over winter. The pond is in a
slightly sheltered spot. We're in North Bucks.

So my advice leave it outside and make sure it has wet feet!

Keith

Since I moved my Arum lilly (in a plastic pot) to stand with its feet in
my pond, a couple of years ago, it has shot up, masses of growth and
loads of flowers. I leave it there over winter. The pond is in a
slightly sheltered spot. We're in North Bucks.

So my advice leave it outside and make sure it has wet feet!

Keith

Do you think this is true of all types of lily in pots? I just overwinter
them under a bench in a rather sheltered spot, and quite a lot die each
year. Maybe I've been keeping them too dry?

Grahame

So called "Arum lilies" are aroids and not even closely related to true
lilies, babe.


"grahame" wrote in message
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Since I moved my Arum lilly (in a plastic pot) to stand with its feet in
my pond, a couple of years ago, it has shot up, masses of growth and
loads of flowers. I leave it there over winter. The pond is in a
slightly sheltered spot. We're in North Bucks.

So my advice leave it outside and make sure it has wet feet!

Keith

Do you think this is true of all types of lily in pots? I just overwinter
them under a bench in a rather sheltered spot, and quite a lot die each
year. Maybe I've been keeping them too dry?

Grahame

The message
from "grahame" contains these words:

Since I moved my Arum lilly (in a plastic pot) to stand with its feet in
my pond, a couple of years ago, it has shot up, masses of growth and
loads of flowers. I leave it there over winter. The pond is in a
slightly sheltered spot. We're in North Bucks.

So my advice leave it outside and make sure it has wet feet!

Keith

Do you think this is true of all types of lily in pots?

Not at all. Arum lily is Zantedeschia aethiopica, which isn't in the
lily family. It's just got a misleading name. The root is a rhizome. It
likes boggy wet conditions and is tender in cold areas. Mulching it in
winter is a good idea.

I just overwinter
them under a bench in a rather sheltered spot, and quite a lot die each
year. Maybe I've been keeping them too dry?

Do you mean, lilies that grow from bulbs? Possibly, they got too dry,
or froze too hard; plastic pots don't insulate very well.They are hardy
enough to be planted out in the garden, though not in the boggy wet-feet
locations enjoyed by zantedeschia.

Janet

"Jack Ouzzi" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have an Arum lilly in a pot, given to me this year, only 1 flower
but grown on very well and now quite 'dense'
I am wondering what to do for the winter as I would like to keep it in
the pot, all the time. Also a bit of root broke off which I put into
another pot......... forgot about, and is now poking leaves through. I
would like to plant this in the garden (next year?) ANY advice please.

M
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I have Arum Lilies planted in damp, dry and arid [under a privet hedge]
conditions. All thrive~ though a late frost can cut them down~~but they
recover. It seems to need an old-fashioned winter to do any harm.
Best Wishes Brian.

You are only half right. Several different species in several different
aroid genera are commonly called arum lilies. Some are completely cold hardy
but some are not. Check it out.


"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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The message
from "grahame" contains these words:

Since I moved my Arum lilly (in a plastic pot) to stand with its feet
in
my pond, a couple of years ago, it has shot up, masses of growth and
loads of flowers. I leave it there over winter. The pond is in a
slightly sheltered spot. We're in North Bucks.

So my advice leave it outside and make sure it has wet feet!

Keith

Do you think this is true of all types of lily in pots?

Not at all. Arum lily is Zantedeschia aethiopica, which isn't in the
lily family. It's just got a misleading name. The root is a rhizome. It
likes boggy wet conditions and is tender in cold areas. Mulching it in
winter is a good idea.

I just overwinter
them under a bench in a rather sheltered spot, and quite a lot die each
year. Maybe I've been keeping them too dry?

Do you mean, lilies that grow from bulbs? Possibly, they got too dry,
or froze too hard; plastic pots don't insulate very well.They are hardy
enough to be planted out in the garden, though not in the boggy wet-feet
locations enjoyed by zantedeschia.

Janet

"Cereus-validus......." wrote in message
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You are only half right. Several different species in several different
aroid genera are commonly called arum lilies. Some are completely cold
hardy
but some are not. Check it out.


"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "grahame" contains these words:

Since I moved my Arum lilly (in a plastic pot) to stand with its feet
in
my pond, a couple of years ago, it has shot up, masses of growth and
loads of flowers. I leave it there over winter. The pond is in a
slightly sheltered spot. We're in North Bucks.

So my advice leave it outside and make sure it has wet feet!

Keith

Do you think this is true of all types of lily in pots?

Not at all. Arum lily is Zantedeschia aethiopica, which isn't in the
lily family. It's just got a misleading name. The root is a rhizome. It
likes boggy wet conditions and is tender in cold areas. Mulching it in
winter is a good idea.

I just overwinter
them under a bench in a rather sheltered spot, and quite a lot die each
year. Maybe I've been keeping them too dry?

Do you mean, lilies that grow from bulbs? Possibly, they got too dry,
or froze too hard; plastic pots don't insulate very well.They are hardy
enough to be planted out in the garden, though not in the boggy wet-feet
locations enjoyed by zantedeschia.

Janet
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As Janet says, Z.aethiopica is the only species, of nine, grown in the
UK that can be called reasonably hardy and grown outdoors. There is a var.
of aethiopica 'Crowborough' that is quite tough. It is now quite common and
might be the plant in question, as few others survived '83.
Surprising how long the name 'Calla' has persisted. Possibly easier to say
than zantedeschia!?
Best Wishes Brian.