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from (WaltA) contains these words:

Ah. Now you're talking. I hanker. (Though my Shadow was all packed with
Lightning internals...)

Great stuff ! My Rapide had a Shadow inside, but outside I decided not
to add a Shadow 'clock', nor badges, cos it might have attracted
unwelcome 'admiration',

AFAICR there were no differences between the Shadow's internals and the
Rapide's. (Dammit, my Vincent book is still in store...)

HRD used to test each enginr on a brake, and the ones which came up to
scratch power-wise were painted black and went out as Shadows. Those
which didn't were sold as Rapides. However, if a Rapide had failed the
test because it was a tad tight, once it had run in it was very often
better than a lot of Shadows.

There may have been a difference in the gearbox internals though, as the
Rapide was billed as a 'tourer' and the Shadow as a 'sports model'.

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:29:17 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
AFAICR there were no differences between the Shadow's internals and the
Rapide's.

choke of carb for one.
ummm, mist of time,, was it inch&1/8 for R and inch&1/4 for S ( or
perhaps it was inch&1/4 vs. inch&1/2 ?)
Compression ratio as well ( or was that just a progression of time
thing ? After all, I had just upgraded from an HRD. (as in HRD not
HRD-Vincent)
Hmmm, I may think of more, like wheel sizes varied quite a bit from
time to time and model to model ,,,,
Are 19" tyres still available I wonder, they were difficult to get
hold of at one time.

(Dammit, my Vincent book is still in store...)

All mine also, as are a lot of my old braincells :-(

Rapide was billed as a 'tourer' and the Shadow as a 'sports model'.

Exactly, I ref. hon. gent. to my post earlier about mudguards. gert
heavy steel things with skirts on the R.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:13:45 GMT,
(WaltA) wrote:

Exactly, I ref. hon. gent. to my post earlier about mudguards. gert
heavy steel things with skirts on the R.

Oh, that is odd, my apols.
you cant see the bit about mudguards and things in a previous post cos
it didnt get in !
How strange, it should have been just before the "swoon" bit,

I wonder where that went ,,, dear me,,,,this tea must be stronger than
I thought !

In article , michael adams
writes


snipped deeply hurtful remarks and cutting asides
about whistles, sharks, lifebelts etc etc etc

PCTKB?
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:28:10 +0200, martin wrote:

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:32:18 GMT,
(WaltA) wrote:

martin wrote:
(WaltA) wrote:
PS Those ladies must have strong legs then, not to mention the thighs
and,,,
... predictable cycles?

:-) !
predictable ?
You are the Pope and I claim my 5quid

Sorry to disappoint, but we only have papal bull left at this time of
year.

It's all smoke ;-)
(and maybe some mirrors as well)
If we thought hard enough we should be able to work in a unicycle here
somewhere ?

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from "michael adams" contains these words:
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
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Oh dear!

The depths some people are prepared to sink to, in order to prevent
themselves from looking total idiots.

I think we've all got your drift.

snipped deeply hurtful remarks and cutting asides
about whistles, sharks, lifebelts etc etc etc



Janet.

....

I very much doubt that, somehow.

You appear to be totally lacking in any sense of humour whatsoever.

/snip/

Now that's funny, coming from you.

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from (WaltA) contains these words:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:29:17 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:

AFAICR there were no differences between the Shadow's internals and the
Rapide's.

choke of carb for one.
ummm, mist of time,, was it inch&1/8 for R and inch&1/4 for S ( or
perhaps it was inch&1/4 vs. inch&1/2 ?)

Dunno - the Shadow/Lightning had GPs you could crawl down.

Compression ratio as well ( or was that just a progression of time
thing ? After all, I had just upgraded from an HRD. (as in HRD not
HRD-Vincent)
Hmmm, I may think of more, like wheel sizes varied quite a bit from
time to time and model to model ,,,,
Are 19" tyres still available I wonder, they were difficult to get
hold of at one time.

Yes. The series D Shadow had a 2·25" × 20" front IIRC

(Dammit, my Vincent book is still in store...)

All mine also, as are a lot of my old braincells :-(

Rapide was billed as a 'tourer' and the Shadow as a 'sports model'.

Exactly, I ref. hon. gent. to my post earlier about mudguards. gert
heavy steel things with skirts on the R.

Well, the Black Prince had those. In fact, now you come to mention it,
mine was originally one of those enclosed thingies, later Shadowised
with ally guards, etc, then stuffed full of goodies.

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Rusty
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Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
"Mike Lyle" writes:

Nick can explain the stats better than I, and I wish dear old
Franz were still with us to describe the physics, but I think
it's essentially correct to say it's a matter of what the
layman would call "averaging". A localised concentration does
nothing to detract from the principle applied globally; and,
very interestingly, according to catastrophe theory, may even
appear to produce a transitory effect _contrary_ to what a
global calculation would predict.

As demonstrated by the technology of paraffin refrigerators.

Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin refrigerator
works. Anyone?

--


Travis in Shoreline Washington

Travis wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
"Mike Lyle" writes:

Nick can explain the stats better than I, and I wish dear old
Franz were still with us to describe the physics, but I think
it's essentially correct to say it's a matter of what the
layman would call "averaging". A localised concentration does
nothing to detract from the principle applied globally; and,
very interestingly, according to catastrophe theory, may even
appear to produce a transitory effect _contrary_ to what a
global calculation would predict.

As demonstrated by the technology of paraffin refrigerators.

Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin
refrigerator
works. Anyone?

Same as a gas one.

--
Mike.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:33:51 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
snip nostalgia for brevity, all noted.
Well, the Black Prince had those. In fact, now you come to mention it,
mine was originally one of those enclosed thingies,

I had a feeling that you might be talking about the later D series.
Ah yes, the one in skirts :-))
As you say, "originally", but like you most real riders soon undressed
her.
and that transparent plastic thing in front meant you didn't get flys
& bees in yer beard like what real riders were supposed to have ,
heheee.

later Shadowised with ally guards,

Yep, I mentioned those as well in that post I managed to misfire !
(and now lost to posterity)
There was also a fancy stainless set as well wasn't there?
Or were they other supplier add-ons ? Tut, how my brain doth fade !

My first were series B - HRD, cos they were cheap s/h ( nobody wanted
them ! can you imagine ha ! ) then later series C Vincent-HRDs

Oh drool. You'll have me weeping into my beer soon, stoppit :-)

Enough of this, go look at my tree bark pictures for your pennance

In article ,
martin wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:57:32 +0100, "Mike Lyle"
wrote:
Travis wrote:

Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin
refrigerator
works. Anyone?

Same as a gas one.

and for those who don't know ...

http://www.nh3tech.org/absorption.html

Ye gods! That explains why I was about to give the answer to how
one works: rather badly.

I had never looked up the physics before, but that isn't the sort
of technology that is ideal for the conditions we used them in.
Not field repairable? When transport from the nearest factory
takes several weeks? Not good news.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 22/8/05 19:22, in article , "michael adams"
wrote:


"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...
snip
Ah. Well, if you start off long postings with abuse,



My heart bleeds for you.

It really does.

Good. Let's hope that means you're going to stop boring the us to death.
What a tedious little person you are.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

On 22/8/05 22:19, in article , "michael adams"
wrote:


"Kay" wrote in message
...

In article , michael adams
writes


snipped deeply hurtful remarks and cutting asides
about whistles, sharks, lifebelts etc etc etc

PCTKB?

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"



You noticed ?

Indeed, I always find it the best strategy to adopt, when cut to
the quick by the rapier wit of the likes of Janet Barraclough,
to announce the fact to the world.

Not too much gets past you does it, eh Kay ?


Oh dear. The prat strikes again.
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

Mike Lyle wrote:
Travis wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
"Mike Lyle" writes:

Nick can explain the stats better than I, and I wish dear
old Franz were still with us to describe the physics, but I
think it's essentially correct to say it's a matter of what
the layman would call "averaging". A localised
concentration does nothing to detract from the principle
applied globally; and, very interestingly, according to
catastrophe theory, may even appear to produce a transitory
effect _contrary_ to what a global calculation would
predict.

As demonstrated by the technology of paraffin refrigerators.

Even though I Googled for it I can't find how a paraffin
refrigerator works. Anyone?

Same as a gas one.

Since paraffin is a soild (isn't it) and gas is a gas I don't get it.

--


Travis in Shoreline Washington

In article DGxOe.10628$g47.7290@trnddc07,
Travis wrote:

Since paraffin is a soild (isn't it) and gas is a gas I don't get it.

Not at any civilised temperature, it isn't. It is a liquid. You
are thinking of paraffin wax. Also don't confuse (liquid) paraffin
with liquid paraffin :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.