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Old 18-03-2003, 07:44 PM
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"Larry Stoter" wrote in message
. co.uk...
: Earnest Trawler wrote:
:
: snips ......
: Sorrry Larry, but legally you have no recourse against the owners in
this
: country, if you don't like it complain to your Member of Parliament.
:
: snips ...
:
: Precisely my point.
:
: Although, despite having no legal recourse, I think that what prevents
: me acting against cats is essentially social attitudes. For example, I
: don't think there is actually anything to stop me trapping cats and
: taking them to a cat rescue centre 200 miles from where I live.
:
: --
: Larry Stoter

But would you be prepared to make a donation to the rescue centre for the
cats' upkeep or the valuable work the centre is doing for stray, abandoned
and maltreated cats? These places are usually run by charities.

K


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Old 18-03-2003, 08:20 PM
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In article , Nick Maclaren
writes


If you are virtually certain they they are strays, I know of nothing
that stops you from humanely killing them.


and they taste like Rabbit when cooked



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I was at the airport, checking in at the gate, when the airport employee
asked, "Has anyone put anything in your baggage without your knowledge?"
I said, "If it was without my knowledge, how would I know?"
He smiled and nodded knowingly, "That's why we ask."





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Old 18-03-2003, 09:09 PM
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"Mike" wrote in message
...
: In article , Nick Maclaren
: writes
:
:
: If you are virtually certain they they are strays, I know of nothing
: that stops you from humanely killing them.
:
:
: and they taste like Rabbit when cooked

How do you know?

K


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Old 18-03-2003, 09:09 PM
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In article , K
writes

"Mike" wrote in message
...
: In article , Nick Maclaren
: writes
:
:
: If you are virtually certain they they are strays, I know of nothing
: that stops you from humanely killing them.
:
:
: and they taste like Rabbit when cooked

How do you know?

K


When Holland was occupied during the war, they used to kill the 'Roof
Rabbits' for food. How do I know? Henk a member of the IMC,
International Maritime Confederation, told us when we were in Brussels
for a Conference. He was in Holland during the war and had first hand
experience.

OK?

Mike
Who never knowingly tells lies
Does he Mabbett?

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GREAT TRUTHS ABOUT LIFE, THAT LITTLE CHILDREN HAVE LEARNED:
No matter how hard you try, you can't baptise cats.





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Old 19-03-2003, 05:44 AM
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:36:37 +0000, (Larry
Stoter) wrote:

Bart Bailey wrote:

snips .....
http://www.havahart.com/nuisance/cats/cat_solutions.htm

Bart


Thank you. I have considered trapping and relocation to a cat rescue
centre a couple of hundred miles from where I live. Would that be
illegal in the UK?


I wouldn't know what's illegal in the UK,
I'm in San Diego g

Bart
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Old 19-03-2003, 09:56 AM
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K wrote:

"Larry Stoter" wrote in message
. co.uk...
: Earnest Trawler wrote:
:
: snips ......
: Sorrry Larry, but legally you have no recourse against the owners in
this
: country, if you don't like it complain to your Member of Parliament.
:
: snips ...
:
: Precisely my point.
:
: Although, despite having no legal recourse, I think that what prevents
: me acting against cats is essentially social attitudes. For example, I
: don't think there is actually anything to stop me trapping cats and
: taking them to a cat rescue centre 200 miles from where I live.
:
: --
: Larry Stoter

But would you be prepared to make a donation to the rescue centre for the
cats' upkeep or the valuable work the centre is doing for stray, abandoned
and maltreated cats? These places are usually run by charities.

K


Yes - and I'd pay for it to be neutered.

Although, I have checked the legal situation and it seems likely that
trapping a cat and taking it to a rescue centre would leave me open to
action by the 'owner', assuming they actually noticed it was missing.
--
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Old 19-03-2003, 09:56 AM
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Bart Bailey wrote:

On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:36:37 +0000, (Larry
Stoter) wrote:

Bart Bailey wrote:

snips .....
http://www.havahart.com/nuisance/cats/cat_solutions.htm

Bart


Thank you. I have considered trapping and relocation to a cat rescue
centre a couple of hundred miles from where I live. Would that be
illegal in the UK?


I wouldn't know what's illegal in the UK,
I'm in San Diego g

Bart


It seems that if they had an 'owner', it would be illegal in the UK.
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Old 19-03-2003, 12:08 PM
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"Larry Stoter"

Thank you. I have considered trapping and relocation to a cat rescue
centre a couple of hundred miles from where I live. Would that be
illegal in the UK?


You are a frustrated little brad if it comes to your garden aren't you?


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Old 19-03-2003, 08:20 PM
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In article , Larry
Stoter writes
K wrote:


But would you be prepared to make a donation to the rescue centre for the
cats' upkeep or the valuable work the centre is doing for stray, abandoned
and maltreated cats? These places are usually run by charities.

K


Yes - and I'd pay for it to be neutered.

Although, I have checked the legal situation and it seems likely that
trapping a cat and taking it to a rescue centre would leave me open to
action by the 'owner', assuming they actually noticed it was missing.


That's a strange comment. Why do you imagine a cat's owner *wouldn't*
notice it was missing?
--
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http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/


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Old 19-03-2003, 08:56 PM
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:57:17 -0000, "julie manns"
wrote:

can anyone offer advice on how to keep them off plants.



The Cat Protection League have just released their leaflet on this,
the press release is available at:
http://www.cats.org.uk/php/pr_htm.php?status=T&file=109

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Kay Easton wrote:

In article , Larry
Stoter writes
K wrote:


But would you be prepared to make a donation to the rescue centre for the
cats' upkeep or the valuable work the centre is doing for stray, abandoned
and maltreated cats? These places are usually run by charities.

K


Yes - and I'd pay for it to be neutered.

Although, I have checked the legal situation and it seems likely that
trapping a cat and taking it to a rescue centre would leave me open to
action by the 'owner', assuming they actually noticed it was missing.


That's a strange comment. Why do you imagine a cat's owner *wouldn't*
notice it was missing?


They certainly don't notice that it is wandering around the
neighbourhood, digging up gardens, killing birds and small mammals,
defaecating where it wants and polluting the area with toxoplasma
gondii.

My experience, having several relatives who 'own' cats is that they
don't start getting really worried until their little darlings have been
'missing' for 3-4 days.
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Marc wrote:

"Larry Stoter"

Thank you. I have considered trapping and relocation to a cat rescue
centre a couple of hundred miles from where I live. Would that be
illegal in the UK?


You are a frustrated little brad if it comes to your garden aren't you?


Frustrated, indeed. "A little brad" ...... hmmm, care to translate?
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In article , Larry
Stoter writes
Kay Easton wrote:

In article , Larry
Stoter writes

Although, I have checked the legal situation and it seems likely that
trapping a cat and taking it to a rescue centre would leave me open to
action by the 'owner', assuming they actually noticed it was missing.


That's a strange comment. Why do you imagine a cat's owner *wouldn't*
notice it was missing?


They certainly don't notice that it is wandering around the
neighbourhood, digging up gardens, killing birds and small mammals,
defaecating where it wants and polluting the area with toxoplasma
gondii.

My experience, having several relatives who 'own' cats is that they
don't start getting really worried until their little darlings have been
'missing' for 3-4 days.


Ah, true - but that's not the same as not noticing it's missing.

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/
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"Larry Stoter" wrote in message
.uk...
Marc W wrote:

"Gorgeous George" wrote

You cannot! Cats will be cats, dogs will be dogs, kids will be kids.

Not
everybody is in to gardening. I just accept it then from time to time

a
pet
will demolish something in the garden, a football will demolish some
flowers. I don't live alone in my neighbourhood and not everybody

shares
my
gardening obsession.


Are you one of these weirdos who feels so unloved they need to have
five cats or more?


No I do not have any cats, I once had a dog, I do have a kid and a

garden. I
am just not one of 'these weirdos' that think my whole neighbourhood

should
walk around my garden from ten meters distance, because otherwise they

would
destroy something.


I do not want anybody or animal to walk around my garden at 10 meters
distance. However, I would prefer they do not walk, or worse, through my
garden uninvited. In the case of dogs and people, there are a number of
acceptable means of recourse. Regretably, a small proportion of cat
owners feel they are entitled to allow the animals they claim to own to
enter neighbours gardens without permission. Even worse, I seem to have
no legal or social remedy to prevent or discourage this infringement of
my property.


There are painless and harmless ways to deal with this problem, all
you have to do is to ask politely!

I have a solution, but I'll only tell you if you ask nicely and make sure
you say 'please'!

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