Gardening Contractors hourly rate?
How much can I expect to pay, per hour, for a garden contactor for a work
site? TIA |
Where are you in the UK ???
If you are in the Midlands. You could pay £5 to £8 hr for just a gardener who does it on the side, and who only works in cash, and who does not touch 'machinery, and put all the rubbish in your wheelie bin or behind the bushes at the back of the garden' etc etc. But then again if you need a gardener who does it professionally and who is self employed properly, and who uses his own machinery and petrol, and who takes all the rubbish away, and does not mind being paid by cheque etc etc then you could pay £15 to £25 hr How much can I expect to pay, per hour, for a garden contactor for a work site? TIA |
£12/hr seems to be the going rate here (South Hams) for a competent
knowlegable gardener who supplies his own tools clears up etc. I know of people who get away with £20/hr but at this level I think you're talking about a horticultural specialist. Going rate for tree surgeons who know about trees is around £180/day, and that is a skilled job with a greater element of risk. David T. "Sacha" wrote in message .uk... On 6/9/05 7:29, in article , "sporty" wrote: Where are you in the UK ??? If you are in the Midlands. You could pay £5 to £8 hr for just a gardener who does it on the side, and who only works in cash, and who does not touch 'machinery, and put all the rubbish in your wheelie bin or behind the bushes at the back of the garden' etc etc. But then again if you need a gardener who does it professionally and who is self employed properly, and who uses his own machinery and petrol, and who takes all the rubbish away, and does not mind being paid by cheque etc etc then you could pay £15 to £25 hr How much can I expect to pay, per hour, for a garden contactor for a work site? TIA Here in the south west we pay about £11 per hour. That seems to be the going rate and he uses his own machinery to cut the lawns, trim hedges etc. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
sporty wrote:
Where are you in the UK ??? If you are in the Midlands. You could pay £5 to £8 hr for just a gardener who does it on the side, and who only works in cash, and who does not touch 'machinery, and put all the rubbish in your wheelie bin or behind the bushes at the back of the garden' etc etc. But then again if you need a gardener who does it professionally and who is self employed properly, and who uses his own machinery and petrol, and who takes all the rubbish away, and does not mind being paid by cheque etc etc then you could pay £15 to £25 hr How much can I expect to pay, per hour, for a garden contactor for a work site? TIA thats about right. I have a chap who does a bit of work for me (for beer money!) most saturdays for £7ph. I have all the equipment. steve |
"sporty" wrote in message ... Where are you in the UK ??? If you are in the Midlands. You could pay £5 to £8 hr for just a gardener who does it on the side, and who only works in cash, and who does not touch 'machinery, and put all the rubbish in your wheelie bin or behind the bushes at the back of the garden' etc etc. But then again if you need a gardener who does it professionally and who is self employed properly, and who uses his own machinery and petrol, and who takes all the rubbish away, and does not mind being paid by cheque etc etc then you could pay £15 to £25 hr How much can I expect to pay, per hour, for a garden contactor for a work site? TIA I'm in the West (Bristol) and would like to expand the question. How much would a LARGE company expect to pay a gardening contractor to maintain the company site? TIA |
On 8/9/05 20:43, in article ,
"Draven" wrote: "sporty" wrote in message ... Where are you in the UK ??? If you are in the Midlands. You could pay £5 to £8 hr for just a gardener who does it on the side, and who only works in cash, and who does not touch 'machinery, and put all the rubbish in your wheelie bin or behind the bushes at the back of the garden' etc etc. But then again if you need a gardener who does it professionally and who is self employed properly, and who uses his own machinery and petrol, and who takes all the rubbish away, and does not mind being paid by cheque etc etc then you could pay £15 to £25 hr How much can I expect to pay, per hour, for a garden contactor for a work site? TIA I'm in the West (Bristol) and would like to expand the question. How much would a LARGE company expect to pay a gardening contractor to maintain the company site? TIA I don't see how that can be answered easily. It would depend on the size of the site, the work required and the number of workers involved on each day of maintenance. Surely the only way to do that is to say "if you want 10 acres maintained, it will take x number of workers y days a week and they are paid z pounds an hour." -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) |
In article , Draven
writes I'm in the West (Bristol) and would like to expand the question. How much would a LARGE company expect to pay a gardening contractor to maintain the company site? Well, here's a radical thought... Why doesn't someone in this LARGE company get out a phone book and ring around a few gardening contractors and ask them to come and give a quote for maintenance. It isn't going to cost you anything to do this, and it takes away what can at best be expected by any urg inhabitants; vague guesswork. -- Flower Bobdew South Facing Garden South West: UK |
On 10/9/05 11:53 am, in article , "Flower
Bobdew" wrote: In article , Draven writes I'm in the West (Bristol) and would like to expand the question. How much would a LARGE company expect to pay a gardening contractor to maintain the company site? Well, here's a radical thought... Why doesn't someone in this LARGE company get out a phone book and ring around a few gardening contractors and ask them to come and give a quote for maintenance. It isn't going to cost you anything to do this, and it takes away what can at best be expected by any urg inhabitants; vague guesswork. I rather thought Draven to be the gardening contractor who is wondering what he should be charging. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
In article , Sacha
writes On 10/9/05 11:53 am, in article , "Flower Bobdew" wrote: In article , Draven writes I'm in the West (Bristol) and would like to expand the question. How much would a LARGE company expect to pay a gardening contractor to maintain the company site? Well, here's a radical thought... Why doesn't someone in this LARGE company get out a phone book and ring around a few gardening contractors and ask them to come and give a quote for maintenance. It isn't going to cost you anything to do this, and it takes away what can at best be expected by any urg inhabitants; vague guesswork. I rather thought Draven to be the gardening contractor who is wondering what he should be charging. LOL! Well, uh, there you go... 'Vague guesswork' in action!! ;) -- Flower Bobdew South Facing Garden South West: UK |
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from Sacha contains these words: I rather thought Draven to be the gardening contractor who is wondering what he should be charging. Well, there's a novel concept, the professional contractor who doesn't know the going rate for his job :-) Just imagine the invoice "Garden maintenance for September; 56 hours." Tick your preferred payment method :- £20 per hour, deferred until pig lands. £10 per hour cash, forget the VAT Box of chocs and a big kiss Janet |
"Sacha" wrote in message .uk... On 10/9/05 11:53 am, in article , "Flower Bobdew" wrote: In article , Draven writes I'm in the West (Bristol) and would like to expand the question. How much would a LARGE company expect to pay a gardening contractor to maintain the company site? Well, here's a radical thought... Why doesn't someone in this LARGE company get out a phone book and ring around a few gardening contractors and ask them to come and give a quote for maintenance. It isn't going to cost you anything to do this, and it takes away what can at best be expected by any urg inhabitants; vague guesswork. I rather thought Draven to be the gardening contractor who is wondering what he should be charging. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) Sacha, You're dead right. I have the gardening contract for a Wessex Water site. I get paid one lump sum for the contract and any work, not covered by the contract, I can either charge by the hourly rate or a whole sum for the job in hand. I am not a gardening professional (in fact I'm a Scientist) but have been gardening for 25 years. The previous gardening contractors became more and more lapse in the upkeep of the site, which is why I was offered the contract. I recently had to reduce the height of a Laurel hedge, on health and safety grounds, and opted for £12 per hour. Which, according to your replies, is about right. The boss was well pleased. |
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message k from Sacha contains these words: I rather thought Draven to be the gardening contractor who is wondering what he should be charging. Well, there's a novel concept, the professional contractor who doesn't know the going rate for his job :-) Just imagine the invoice "Garden maintenance for September; 56 hours." Tick your preferred payment method :- £20 per hour, deferred until pig lands. £10 per hour cash, forget the VAT Box of chocs and a big kiss Janet No chance of a good hard shag then. ;O) |
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:00:01 +0100, Sacha
wrote: On 10/9/05 11:53 am, in article , "Flower Bobdew" wrote: In article , Draven writes I'm in the West (Bristol) and would like to expand the question. How much would a LARGE company expect to pay a gardening contractor to maintain the company site? Well, here's a radical thought... Why doesn't someone in this LARGE company get out a phone book and ring around a few gardening contractors and ask them to come and give a quote for maintenance. It isn't going to cost you anything to do this, and it takes away what can at best be expected by any urg inhabitants; vague guesswork. I rather thought Draven to be the gardening contractor who is wondering what he should be charging. So he could still phone around the competition anyway and ask the question? |
Draven wrote:
I'm in the West (Bristol) and would like to expand the question. How much would a LARGE company expect to pay a gardening contractor to maintain the company site? Assuming the large company expects the gardener to carry professional indemnity insurance, and to be able to maintain a service in the envet of injury or illness, I'd say much the same as any other tradesman: 25 to 35 quid an hour. For a more flexible approach, with no fixed dates of attendance and no defined performance standards, perhaps it would be possible to get it done for under 20. But a large site will generate a lot of disposal problems which may have to be negotiated separately. |
wrote in message oups.com... Draven wrote: I'm in the West (Bristol) and would like to expand the question. How much would a LARGE company expect to pay a gardening contractor to maintain the company site? Assuming the large company expects the gardener to carry professional indemnity insurance, and to be able to maintain a service in the envet of injury or illness, I'd say much the same as any other tradesman: 25 to 35 quid an hour. For a more flexible approach, with no fixed dates of attendance and no defined performance standards, perhaps it would be possible to get it done for under 20. But a large site will generate a lot of disposal problems which may have to be negotiated separately. Thanks. So at £12 per hour I'm a bargain. That's what I needed to know. I don't need indemnity insurance as I'm already employed by the company and fully covered. (I checked). ;O) |
On 12/9/05 11:21, in article
, "Draven" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message .uk... snip I rather thought Draven to be the gardening contractor who is wondering what he should be charging. Sacha, You're dead right. I have the gardening contract for a Wessex Water site. I get paid one lump sum for the contract and any work, not covered by the contract, I can either charge by the hourly rate or a whole sum for the job in hand. I am not a gardening professional (in fact I'm a Scientist) but have been gardening for 25 years. The previous gardening contractors became more and more lapse in the upkeep of the site, which is why I was offered the contract. I recently had to reduce the height of a Laurel hedge, on health and safety grounds, and opted for £12 per hour. Which, according to your replies, is about right. The boss was well pleased. So nice to be right and how kind of you to tell me so! ;-) But that's a pretty shiny badge on your professional gardening CV so good for you. You will be able to up your rates with justification as time wears on. If you would like to, please do tell us more because this sounds of interest to others here, don't you think. Have you retired completely from your earlier and mainstream science career? Is the contract gardening a retirement venture or a sideline? -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) |
"Sacha" wrote in message .uk... On 12/9/05 11:21, in article , "Draven" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message .uk... snip I rather thought Draven to be the gardening contractor who is wondering what he should be charging. Sacha, You're dead right. I have the gardening contract for a Wessex Water site. I get paid one lump sum for the contract and any work, not covered by the contract, I can either charge by the hourly rate or a whole sum for the job in hand. I am not a gardening professional (in fact I'm a Scientist) but have been gardening for 25 years. The previous gardening contractors became more and more lapse in the upkeep of the site, which is why I was offered the contract. I recently had to reduce the height of a Laurel hedge, on health and safety grounds, and opted for £12 per hour. Which, according to your replies, is about right. The boss was well pleased. So nice to be right and how kind of you to tell me so! ;-) But that's a pretty shiny badge on your professional gardening CV so good for you. You will be able to up your rates with justification as time wears on. If you would like to, please do tell us more because this sounds of interest to others here, don't you think. Have you retired completely from your earlier and mainstream science career? Is the contract gardening a retirement venture or a sideline? -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) Sacha, I'm 36 years old, a scientist for Wessex Water and have been gardening since I was 11 yrs. For the last couple of years my Boss has approached me to do some planting in particular areas of the site. Quite basically a quote was obtained from the gardener contractors and then I was asked how much could you do it for? The first thing I did was a bare patch of land as you drove into the site. The gardener contractors (Gardiners) quoted something of the region of £600 and were going to plant evergreen shrubs (as always). I did it at no cost to myself and only charged for the plants that I had to buy. Some of the plants were my own that I grew form cuttings. It wasn't easy as the land was just builders clay and rubble. But I went ahead and now there is a bank of Fuchsias that the Director said "Is fantastic". Total cost £40. Next I was asked if I could take charge of the canteen area, it's a patio area where we sit and eat (weather permitting). More fuchsias, bedding plants (this year marigolds), small conifers and a Honeysuckle Hallina (to cover up a fence that separates the site and some waste land) was planted. All looking great. Then the Boss came to me and asked me if I could plant up a long strip at the entrance of the building. This I did with gazanias and rudbeckias. As all this was going on the supervisor of the gardener contractors left. It was then that everything went wrong. Nothing was cut back, weeds everywhere etc. One day I was sitting with the boss on the patio (weeds all in it) and the boss said "you couldn't get some weedkiller and spray the weeds? It was then that I pointed out that it was the gardener contractors duties to do that as that was what they were paid for. He then remarked that they were useless and that I would do a better job than them. And that was the seed sown. The site is too big for me on my own so I asked my best mate (also working there) if he would like half the contract to cut the lawns (he's a lawn freak). It was very stressful at that time. I lay awake at night wondering if I was taking on more than I could handle. The final straw was when the gardener contractors came to work and said "from now on we'll only be coming in once a fortnight!" The person in charge of Wessex sites came down and told us that they were doing this in some of the other Wessex sites and they were going to lose the contracts there too. The rest is history. My mate and myself said we'd do it. We put in a quote £1300 less than the current contractors. We negotiated a lump sum (to buy all the petrol gear) and then a monthly payment from then on. And off we went. It was hard at first with lots to do but now everything is getting there. We spend around 4 hours a week, each, on site. We told the boss that we wanted compost bins to put suitable waste in. We now have 6 compost bins made out of pallets that we put clippings and weeds in. This was such a revelation that we are going to appear in the Wessex Water magazine, called Source, on how we are trying to be more environmentally aware. We recently went for a walk into the near by sewage works, where Gardiners still have the contract, the place is a total state. Weeds everywhere. So that's the next plan, to try to get that contract. If we were more sure of ourselves we could have approached the other sites, that Gardiners had lost the contract for (I think there was around 6 in all), and done those too. |
On 13/9/05 14:22, in article ,
"Draven" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message .uk... snip Is the contract gardening a retirement venture or a sideline? -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) Sacha, I'm 36 years old, a scientist for Wessex Water and have been gardening since I was 11 yrs. For the last couple of years my Boss has approached me to do some planting in particular areas of the site. Quite basically a quote was obtained from the gardener contractors and then I was asked how much could you do it for? snip of amazing story If we were more sure of ourselves we could have approached the other sites, that Gardiners had lost the contract for (I think there was around 6 in all), and done those too. All I can say is what a truly wonderful outcome and that you deserve to succeed and make yourself a lot of money out of this. Who ever said the entrepreneurial spirit was dead?! We have a friend who was part-time employed by SW Water to promote the planting of drought-tolerant plants, in order to encourage water conservation. Next step a gravel garden in Beth Chatto mode, perhaps? ;-) I wish you every possible bit of good luck - you couldn't possible deserve it more. -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) |
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