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how can i kill a tree stump?
hi i have 2 sycamore tree stumps 2 1/2 to 3 feet wide,i want to kill them because 1 is starting to sprout again,someone mentioned drilling holes in the stump and putting some pellets in the holes,but i can't seem to find any anyware,all i get in a search is the DEEP ROOT TREE KILLER,does anyone knowwhere i can get it please?i have tried my local garden centre,but they have'nt got any,i don't really want to go to the expense of grinding them out.thank you kaz44
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kaz44 wrote:
hi i have 2 sycamore tree stumps 2 1/2 to 3 feet wide,i want to kill them because 1 is starting to sprout again,someone mentioned drilling holes in the stump and putting some pellets in the holes,but i can't seem to find any anyware,all i get in a search is the DEEP ROOT TREE KILLER,does anyone knowwhere i can get it please?i have tried my local garden centre,but they have'nt got any,i don't really want to go to the expense of grinding them out.thank you kaz44 I am not too sure about the truth or otherwise of this suggestion, but! A farmer once told me that the best and easiest way to get rid of tree stumps was the following technique. In the top of the stump, drill as many holes as you can using a brace and a large bit and drill as deeply as you can. Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. In the spring build a bon-fire on top of the stump and set fire to it. He said that the bonfire would burn the stump away down to the roots. This is only hearsay, but it might well work. It won't cost you a lot to try it. If it doesn't work you'll have to dig the stump out by hand, or hire a stump chipper. |
"Peter James" wrote in message .. . kaz44 wrote: hi i have 2 sycamore tree stumps 2 1/2 to 3 feet wide,i want to kill them because 1 is starting to sprout again,someone mentioned drilling holes in the stump and putting some pellets in the holes,but i can't seem to find any anyware,all i get in a search is the DEEP ROOT TREE KILLER,does anyone knowwhere i can get it please?i have tried my local garden centre,but they have'nt got any,i don't really want to go to the expense of grinding them out.thank you kaz44 I am not too sure about the truth or otherwise of this suggestion, but! A farmer once told me that the best and easiest way to get rid of tree stumps was the following technique. In the top of the stump, drill as many holes as you can using a brace and a large bit and drill as deeply as you can. Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. In the spring build a bon-fire on top of the stump and set fire to it. He said that the bonfire would burn the stump away down to the roots. This is only hearsay, but it might well work. It won't cost you a lot to try it. If it doesn't work you'll have to dig the stump out by hand, or hire a stump chipper. What if the stump is in your front garden? Building a bonfire would be a strange thing to do in such a case. |
Draven wrote:
"Peter James" wrote in message .. . kaz44 wrote: hi i have 2 sycamore tree stumps 2 1/2 to 3 feet wide,i want to kill them because 1 is starting to sprout again,someone mentioned drilling holes in the stump and putting some pellets in the holes,but i can't seem to find any anyware,all i get in a search is the DEEP ROOT TREE KILLER,does anyone knowwhere i can get it please?i have tried my local garden centre,but they have'nt got any,i don't really want to go to the expense of grinding them out.thank you kaz44 I am not too sure about the truth or otherwise of this suggestion, but! A farmer once told me that the best and easiest way to get rid of tree stumps was the following technique. In the top of the stump, drill as many holes as you can using a brace and a large bit and drill as deeply as you can. Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. In the spring build a bon-fire on top of the stump and set fire to it. He said that the bonfire would burn the stump away down to the roots. This is only hearsay, but it might well work. It won't cost you a lot to try it. If it doesn't work you'll have to dig the stump out by hand, or hire a stump chipper. What if the stump is in your front garden? Building a bonfire would be a strange thing to do in such a case. I don't think that the idea is to build a large bonfire. Just one that will generate sufficient heat to ignite the stump. I think one would need to use a degree of common sense over this. As you suggest, too big and the house goes with it. Not what the OP was hoping to achieve I imagine. The other problem might be in deciding how far under the house the roots of the stump go. That might be a problem, in which case you would have to find some other way of getting rid of the problem. -- Please remove AT to reply |
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.. . kaz44 wrote: Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. As private individuals, how can we get hold of the saltpetre (potassium nitrate?) ? -- M Stewart Milton Keynes, UK http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm |
"Malcolm Stewart" wrote in message ... "Peter James" wrote in message .. . kaz44 wrote: Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. As private individuals, how can we get hold of the saltpetre (potassium nitrate?) ? -- M Stewart Milton Keynes, UK http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm Very difficult as it's one of the parts for making gun powder. Would a sodium chlorate / sugar mix replace it? |
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
"Peter James" wrote in message .. . kaz44 wrote: Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. As private individuals, how can we get hold of the saltpetre (potassium nitrate?) ? You just pop in to the nearest chemist's shop, and ask. A few quid will cover it. Save the rest for next time you kill a pig and need to make bacon and ham. Or, if you don't want pot nitrate for that purpose, and are less dramatically inclined, you go to the garden centre or B&Q and buy a tub of sodium chlorate. People make a terrible to-do about tree-stumps. Again and again, I say this gardening lark is a simple business: I have personal reservations about leaving dead material in the ground, but most times a stump won't do your garden any harm at all. Just leave it there, and it'll rot away in a few years. Break off any shoots which come up from the stump, and relax. Nature has been growing plants on this planet for an awfully long time, and on the whole did it better before we started interfering. -- Mike. |
"Draven" wrote in message
.. . "Malcolm Stewart" wrote in message ... "Peter James" wrote in message .. . kaz44 wrote: Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. As private individuals, how can we get hold of the saltpetre (potassium nitrate?) ? Very difficult as it's one of the parts for making gun powder. Would a sodium chlorate / sugar mix replace it? Ask a chemist or a charcuterie. Since it's also part of the way to making Salami and Salt Beef. -- J.P. in London. |
"JP in Lon" wrote in message ... "Draven" wrote in message .. . "Malcolm Stewart" wrote in message ... "Peter James" wrote in message .. . kaz44 wrote: Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. As private individuals, how can we get hold of the saltpetre (potassium nitrate?) ? Very difficult as it's one of the parts for making gun powder. Would a sodium chlorate / sugar mix replace it? Ask a chemist or a charcuterie. Since it's also part of the way to making Salami and Salt Beef. ....and I forgot, Bacon. -- J.P. in London. |
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
"Peter James" wrote in message .. . kaz44 wrote: Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. As private individuals, how can we get hold of the saltpetre (potassium nitrate?) ? I don't know. I do know that my farmer friend was able to get it. Try your local Agricultural Supplier and Fertiliser Merchant. Or maybe a wholesale chemist might be able to help. I know that saltpetre is used in the manufacture of explosives so it might be a problem. Have you googled for it? -- Please remove AT to reply |
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"Peter James" wrote in message .. . kaz44 wrote: Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. As private individuals, how can we get hold of the saltpetre (potassium nitrate?) ? A search of google brought up: http://www.thechemicalshop.com/index...RODUCT&product id=31 Remember google is your friend! -- Please remove AT to reply |
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from "Draven" contains these words: Very difficult as it's one of the parts for making gun powder. Would a sodium chlorate / sugar mix replace it? Only as gunpowder. -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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kaz44 wrote: hi i have 2 sycamore tree stumps 2 1/2 to 3 feet wide,i want to kill them because 1 is starting to sprout again,someone mentioned drilling holes in the stump and putting some pellets in the holes,but i can't seem to find any anyware,all i get in a search is the DEEP ROOT TREE KILLER,does anyone knowwhere i can get it please?i have tried my local garden centre,but they have'nt got any,i don't really want to go to the expense of grinding them out.thank you kaz44 Cut channels or grooves into the top of the stump (I used a chainsaw on large hawthorn bushes - a bow-saw would be *much* harder work) and brush Amcide onto the stump. I used to get 100 per cent results. Amcide is ammonium sulphamate and, ironically, is sold by the Organic Gardening Catalogue! |
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from kaz44 contains these words: thanks for all your suggestions,someone also said hammer copper nails in to the top of the stump,might do that and leave it and break off any new shoots and make a feature out of it,thank you kaz44 Copper nail treatment is *VERY* long term. A shorter-term method would be to bore some deep holes into the top, pour in some sulphuric acid (from an old accumulator would do), then seal the tops of the holes with some screwed-up polythene, or something. But be careful not to squirt any of the acid while doing this - it's bad news for eyes, skin and fabric. -- Rusty Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
thanks for all your suggestions,someone also said hammer copper nails in to the top of the stump,might do that and leave it and break off any new shoots and make a feature out of it,thank you kaz44 I found a stump of something, elderberry I think, I planted thyme in the top, it looks very pretty kate |
Peter James wrote:
kaz44 wrote: hi i have 2 sycamore tree stumps 2 1/2 to 3 feet wide,i want to kill them because 1 is starting to sprout again,someone mentioned drilling holes in the stump and putting some pellets in the holes,but i can't seem to find any anyware,all i get in a search is the DEEP ROOT TREE KILLER,does anyone knowwhere i can get it please?i have tried my local garden centre,but they have'nt got any,i don't really want to go to the expense of grinding them out.thank you kaz44 You want ammonium sulphamate sold under the tradename rootout eg http://www.daxproducts.co.uk/rootout.html I am not too sure about the truth or otherwise of this suggestion, but! A farmer once told me that the best and easiest way to get rid of tree stumps was the following technique. In the top of the stump, drill as many holes as you can using a brace and a large bit and drill as deeply as you can. Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. In the spring build a bon-fire on top of the stump and set fire to it. He said that the bonfire would burn the stump away down to the roots. It might work if you live in the mediterranean where the ground is bone dry in winter, but it doesn't stand a cat in hells chance of working in the UK. I loaded my pear tree stump with 2kg of potassium nitrate (roughly this way) and was only rewarded with a huge crop of fungi. No way would it burn as the wood at ground level was still saturated with water even in mid summer. This is only hearsay, but it might well work. It won't cost you a lot to try it. If it doesn't work you'll have to dig the stump out by hand, or hire a stump chipper. Strangely copper nails or copper sulphate might help accelerate the tree roots demise by inhibiting the enzymes that protect it against fungal attack. I have never tried this but it is supposed to help. Ultimately you may find spade, crowbar and scaffold pole the most satisfying way to remove them after they are dead. Regards, Martin Brown |
Malcolm Stewart wrote:
"Peter James" wrote in message .. . kaz44 wrote: Pack the holes with saltpetre and plug the top of the holes with putty and leave it all winter. As private individuals, how can we get hold of the saltpetre (potassium nitrate?) ? On the shelf of any decent garden centre. Regards, Martin Brown |
"kaz44" wrote in message ... hi i have 2 sycamore tree stumps 2 1/2 to 3 feet wide,i want to kill them because 1 is starting to sprout again,someone mentioned drilling holes in the stump and putting some pellets in the holes,but i can't seem to find any anyware,all i get in a search is the DEEP ROOT TREE KILLER,does anyone knowwhere i can get it please?i have tried my local garden centre,but they have'nt got any,i don't really want to go to the expense of grinding them out.thank you kaz44 Use RootOut from B&Q - or almost anywhere. Follow the instructions on it. Works well. |
I've killed many sycamore and ash stumps over the years. My technique is to strip as much bark as possible from the stump down to ground level (and below) and to drill a few deep holes in the centre of the stump using a brace with a broad auger bit. Every time the roots send up a sucker or some more leaves, hack them off. The lack of bark causes the live wood to die. The holes in the centre trap rainwater which causes the centre to rot slowly. Even the strongest sycamores give up after a year or two of this treatment. The best tool for removing bark that I've found is a hand adze with a blade 50mm wide from Tiranti. |
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 09:34:26 +0000, kaz44 wrote:
hi i have 2 sycamore tree stumps 2 1/2 to 3 feet wide,i want to kill them because 1 is starting to sprout again,someone mentioned drilling holes in the stump and putting some pellets in the holes,but i can't seem to find any anyware,all i get in a search is the DEEP ROOT TREE KILLER,does anyone knowwhere i can get it please?i have tried my local garden centre,but they have'nt got any,i don't really want to go to the expense of grinding them out.thank you kaz44 Drilled holes with Brushwood Killer worked for mine; assuming it hasn't been banned yet. -- Jim Tyneside UK |
Hi all,
In a previous career as a tree surgeon we were often asked to kill or remove stumps. The most effective way is to cut a groove in the cambian layer (the area of growth inside the bark) this layer holds the tree's vascular system. Put a systemic herbiced in the groove. Then place a bin liner over the stump tp stop rain washing it off or animals getting to it. As the groove has been cut in the cambian layer the vascular system will help to take the herbiced into the root system. This method has had 100% success everytime i have used it. Unfortunately the copper nail method is false. If you dont have a chainsaw to make the groove, drilled holes will do, but be sure they intersect the cambian layer. HTH |
To kill a stump it is easy, apply any poison, ammonium sulpamate is the prefered method..usually you peel back the bark around the stump (or the cork cambrium) and apply poison.....the other way is just prune any growth back, the tree will run out of energy in the long term and die....the best way of getting rid of it is, as has been as suggested grinding it out...this is a good site for info on stump grinders...www.stumpgrinding.eu.com
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how can i kill a tree stump?
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thwaites" wrote: "stumpy66" skrev i en meddelelse ... To kill a stump it is easy, apply any poison, ammonium sulpamate is the should read "ammonium sulphamate" prefered method..usually you peel back the bark around the stump (or the cork cambrium) and apply poison.....the other way is just prune any growth back, the tree will run out of energy in the long term and die....the best way of getting rid of it is, as has been as suggested grinding it out...this is a good site for info on stump grinders...www.stumpgrinding.eu.com -- stumpy66 A.T. (resident in Denmark) wrote.- A "fun" method of removing stumps is to drill vertical holes in said stump,fill with sodium chlorate, cover to keep dry,wait a month and then light a small fire on the top of the stump which has become highly inflammable and will burn right away. I was looking forward to trying this but found that sodium chlorate,once used as weed killer is no longer available in this country as it may be used to make bombs ! Maybe it is still sold in U.K. Sodium Chlorate is a powerful oxidising agent and as such is potentially dangerous. It is still available as a weedkiller in the UK but the material sold has sodium chloride and maybe other things added in an attempt to reduce the inflammibility of any mixture. So maybe the fun method won't be much fun after all. |
how can i kill a tree stump?
"John McMillan" wrote in message ... In article , "alan thwaites" wrote: "stumpy66" skrev i en meddelelse ... To kill a stump it is easy, apply any poison, ammonium sulpamate is the should read "ammonium sulphamate" prefered method..usually you peel back the bark around the stump (or the cork cambrium) and apply poison.....the other way is just prune any growth back, the tree will run out of energy in the long term and die....the best way of getting rid of it is, as has been as suggested grinding it out...this is a good site for info on stump grinders...www.stumpgrinding.eu.com -- stumpy66 A.T. (resident in Denmark) wrote.- A "fun" method of removing stumps is to drill vertical holes in said stump,fill with sodium chlorate, cover to keep dry,wait a month and then light a small fire on the top of the stump which has become highly inflammable and will burn right away. I was looking forward to trying this but found that sodium chlorate,once used as weed killer is no longer available in this country as it may be used to make bombs ! Maybe it is still sold in U.K. Sodium Chlorate is a powerful oxidising agent and as such is potentially dangerous. It is still available as a weedkiller in the UK but the material sold has sodium chloride and maybe other things added in an attempt to reduce the inflammibility of any mixture. So maybe the fun method won't be much fun after all. '********** 1. If you acquire a dose of Sodium Chlorate take great care to protect yourself and slowly and carefully flush surplus it down the toilet. 2. One of the old methods , - ( and I have used it on two occasions), - is to drill a small number of one-inch holes into the top of the sawn-off butt, with a carpenter's hand-drill, ( the bigger type with a round wooden handle for the left hand at the top and half-way down the shaft is a right-hand handle to turn the chuck and drill bit.) Carefully, - using rubber gloves,- fill the holes to near their tops with H2S04, - (Sulphuric Acid). Dispose of surplus H2S04 immediately if such has been used, and keep children away from the stumps.. Select from among your wooden cast-off bits of wood planks, a piece, (saw it off), and nail it firmly over the top of the stump securely so that the kids can't get at it or the holes.. Be sure about this because the little b.....s'll be there poking their grubby little fingers at it, despite stern warnings. Last year my Son-in-law and I dug up four big tree stumps which had stood on the lawn, lopped, for four years. Had they been fresh we would have failed, in spite of the fact that none had tap roots. But they had big side roots and they were fairly deepish. There were good signs of rotting, but they were in unworked land and it took us five days and much sweat and labour to dig and hack them out. It was hard work and sheer hard grafting for me. This was at Rainham Kent and the Council binmen would not collect them so we had to hire a smallish lorry to take them to the tip. Doug. ********** |
to remove four tree stumps with a diameter of 40 inches say...would take me 2-3 hours, maybe less.....5 days is a long time, at least you got to spend time with your son in law...
I admire those that do it themselves, prefer those those that pay me to do it for them.... |
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