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Old 04-10-2005, 01:47 PM
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On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:43:38 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:09:11 +0100, Janet Baraclough
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This garden is in a windy
seaside location,

Should'nt have much of a problem with salt spray,

LOL

Janet.

My assumption was made on the observation that as I have been at this
location for three months, and the winds have been strong enough to
blow over my plant pots (18inch dia), I can't taste any salt in the
wind, my garage/shed/car windows don't show any evidence of salt film.
We are sheltered from the direct sea winds.


Three months? choke! Those of us who have lived by the sea may suggest
that you pause for a couple more years before you think of assessing the
liklihood of any maritime influence.

Err, I have lived close to the sea for the past 16 years. My first
location was 200 yards from a clifftop, as the garden was sheltered by
the house and a number of large trees I had no "seaside" related
problems, this was the house with the 40ft apple tree previously
mentioned. Everything grew very well.

I then moved to another seaside location, about 400 yards from the
sea, my the rear garden being totally exposed to the prevaling winds.
Nothing would grow in this garden, any shrubs I planted would refuse
to grow or shrivel up and die. My potted palms went into reverse and
started to whither away. The two trees the builders planted remained
spindly sticks with just a few leaves to keep alive. I gave up on this
garden.

Then I moved to my current location, as I just said this home is
sheltered from the direct sea winds and appears to have an environment
more like my first seaside home. My palms are now thriving, they don't
seem to mind the winds here. As you say 3 months maybe too soon to
tell, but all my plants are thriving.

The point I am trying to make is, there are such things as
microclimates, can you generalise on a seaside location as being a
salt laden windy difficult gardening environment?.
It might even be a decade before a particular set of conditions
coincides, and half the Channel/Bristol Channel pays you a flying
visit...

/choke!

My mother lives 4 miles away, she has been there for 53 years, I have
returned to my home enviroment, I think I have a good idea of what the
local climate might be like.
However should I drive a few hundred yards arond the corner towards
the sea, then yes, the car windows are spotted with salt .


What is this 'drive' activity, Earth creature?

Sorry I don't understand this coment, I normally walk 1.5miles into
town, but to the next town I drive.

Paul

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Old 04-10-2005, 02:09 PM
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 12:47:47 +0100, Paul wrote:

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:43:38 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

The message
from Paul contains these words:
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 18:09:11 +0100, Janet Baraclough
wrote:
The message
from Paul contains these words:

This garden is in a windy
seaside location,

Should'nt have much of a problem with salt spray,

LOL

Janet.
My assumption was made on the observation that as I have been at this
location for three months, and the winds have been strong enough to
blow over my plant pots (18inch dia), I can't taste any salt in the
wind, my garage/shed/car windows don't show any evidence of salt film.
We are sheltered from the direct sea winds.


Three months? choke! Those of us who have lived by the sea may suggest
that you pause for a couple more years before you think of assessing the
liklihood of any maritime influence.

Err, I have lived close to the sea for the past 16 years. My first
location was 200 yards from a clifftop, as the garden was sheltered by
the house and a number of large trees I had no "seaside" related
problems, this was the house with the 40ft apple tree previously
mentioned. Everything grew very well.

I then moved to another seaside location, about 400 yards from the
sea, my the rear garden being totally exposed to the prevaling winds.
Nothing would grow in this garden, any shrubs I planted would refuse
to grow or shrivel up and die. My potted palms went into reverse and
started to whither away. The two trees the builders planted remained
spindly sticks with just a few leaves to keep alive. I gave up on this
garden.

Then I moved to my current location, as I just said this home is
sheltered from the direct sea winds and appears to have an environment
more like my first seaside home. My palms are now thriving, they don't
seem to mind the winds here. As you say 3 months maybe too soon to
tell, but all my plants are thriving.

The point I am trying to make is, there are such things as
microclimates, can you generalise on a seaside location as being a
salt laden windy difficult gardening environment?.
It might even be a decade before a particular set of conditions
coincides, and half the Channel/Bristol Channel pays you a flying
visit...

/choke!

My mother lives 4 miles away, she has been there for 53 years, I have
returned to my home enviroment, I think I have a good idea of what the
local climate might be like.
However should I drive a few hundred yards arond the corner towards
the sea, then yes, the car windows are spotted with salt .


What is this 'drive' activity, Earth creature?

Sorry I don't understand this coment, I normally walk 1.5miles into
town, but to the next town I drive.

Paul

Sorry to tail end my own posting, regarding my assumption being free
of any salt problems.

The houses half a mile away situated on the seafront are all blighted
with rusted Sky dishes, the local houses do not appear to suffer this
problem.

Paul
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Old 04-10-2005, 02:53 PM
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
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Whirlwinds can be quite impressive: [...good history snipped...]


Telly the other week actually said Britain was the tornado capital of
the world (cue patriotic music). That must have been in purely
numerical terms, of course: I'm not sure that most cute little Brit
willy-willies would even be counted on the NA Prairies.


And East Angular is the tornado capital of the Brutish Aisles.

I've seen three in the last few years. Last year an impressive funnel
snaked downwards from some angr-looking clouds, but it didn't seem to
reach the ground.

Another swept relatively harmlessly along the Tas valley, and I saw
another in a similar place.

A few years ago, one hit Long Stratton,and did a great deal of damage
down one side of the A140, stripping roofs and hurling loose items
(Flossie, Rosie and Shaz) around.

Wally wondered what the noise was and looked out of his café window - to
see his Mercedes trundling past - on its roof.

It had been parked behind the building...

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Old 04-10-2005, 02:55 PM
Jaques d'Alltrades
 
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The message
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Sorry to tail end my own posting, regarding my assumption being free
of any salt problems.


The houses half a mile away situated on the seafront are all blighted
with rusted Sky dishes, the local houses do not appear to suffer this
problem.


Evidently they planted the wrong seeds.

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Old 04-10-2005, 05:12 PM
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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message
from Paul contains these words:

Sorry to tail end my own posting, regarding my assumption being free
of any salt problems.


The houses half a mile away situated on the seafront are all blighted
with rusted Sky dishes, the local houses do not appear to suffer this
problem.


Evidently they planted the wrong seeds.


You mean, because all they got was a Sky dish?

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