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bigjon 02-11-2005 04:01 PM

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http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/worrisit.htm
(A cactus from Jim Warham - ID Please)

I have the same, I don't know what it is either, but it flowers thre times
a year and has about 30 flowers each time. It's in a pot 12" across, it
spreads about 3 feet up and across...

Any ideas?

Tumbleweed 02-11-2005 04:32 PM

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"bigjon" wrote in message
.. .

http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/worrisit.htm
(A cactus from Jim Warham - ID Please)

I have the same, I don't know what it is either, but it flowers thre times
a year and has about 30 flowers each time. It's in a pot 12" across, it
spreads about 3 feet up and across...

Any ideas?


That looks like a so-called 'christmas cactus' (several varieties)

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/i...truncatus.html


I like 'Jims cactus' lower down on your page, it looks like a trimmed
cucumber with a posy on it!

It actually is one species with a graft of another species on top. the graft
is a mutant with no clorophyll hence it needs to be grafted onto something
that does have it.

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Tumbleweed 02-11-2005 04:38 PM

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"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
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"bigjon" wrote in message
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http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/worrisit.htm
(A cactus from Jim Warham - ID Please)

I have the same, I don't know what it is either, but it flowers thre
times
a year and has about 30 flowers each time. It's in a pot 12" across, it
spreads about 3 feet up and across...

Any ideas?


That looks like a so-called 'christmas cactus' (several varieties)

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/i...truncatus.html


I like 'Jims cactus' lower down on your page, it looks like a trimmed
cucumber with a posy on it!

It actually is one species with a graft of another species on top. the
graft is a mutant with no clorophyll hence it needs to be grafted onto
something that does have it.


Sorry 'jason' not Jim.

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Martin Brown 02-11-2005 04:57 PM

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Tumbleweed wrote:

"bigjon" wrote in message
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http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/worrisit.htm
(A cactus from Jim Warham - ID Please)

I have the same, I don't know what it is either, but it flowers thre times
a year and has about 30 flowers each time. It's in a pot 12" across, it
spreads about 3 feet up and across...

Any ideas?


That looks like a so-called 'christmas cactus' (several varieties)

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/i...truncatus.html


An understandable mistake. They are certainly epiphytic cacti, but I am
pretty sure from the flower structure it is an Epiphytum hybrid. You can
get a wide range of colours and forms eg.

http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/grant.../Cacticom.html
http://www.epiphyllum.com/

Zygocactus have a much more pronounce mirror symmetry to their flowers.


I like 'Jims cactus' lower down on your page, it looks like a trimmed
cucumber with a posy on it!

It actually is one species with a graft of another species on top. the graft
is a mutant with no clorophyll hence it needs to be grafted onto something
that does have it.


It looks suspciously like the graft is dead to me. That is why the root
stock is throwing up suckers from the base. I'd take them off and root
them down before they take too much energy from the scion if it is
alive. Looks like Hylocereus trigonus stock - slightly too sensitive to
winter temperatures. Don't let it get too cold.

Regards,
Martin Brown

bigjon 03-11-2005 07:40 AM

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Tumbleweed decided to add:

"bigjon" wrote in message
.. .

http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/worrisit.htm
(A cactus from Jim Warham - ID Please)

I have the same, I don't know what it is either, but it flowers thre times
a year and has about 30 flowers each time. It's in a pot 12" across, it
spreads about 3 feet up and across...

Any ideas?


That looks like a so-called 'christmas cactus' (several varieties)

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/i...truncatus.html


I like 'Jims cactus' lower down on your page, it looks like a trimmed
cucumber with a posy on it!

It actually is one species with a graft of another species on top. the graft
is a mutant with no clorophyll hence it needs to be grafted onto something
that does have it.


I have several of what is in your pic, a "Christmas Cactus", but the one I
ask about is not the same. It has individual "stems" 2 to 3.5 feet long
with large red flowers about three inches across - unless the "Christmas
Cactus" has larger varieties??

Tumbleweed 03-11-2005 08:31 AM

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"bigjon" wrote in message
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I have several of what is in your pic, a "Christmas Cactus", but the one I
ask about is not the same. It has individual "stems" 2 to 3.5 feet long
with large red flowers about three inches across - unless the "Christmas
Cactus" has larger varieties??


'christmas cactus' is a generic name, there are many many species and
hybrids of them, and I suspect that just from pictures it would be very
difficult to find the *exact* one.

--
Tumbleweed

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Kay 03-11-2005 09:12 PM

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In article , Tumbleweed thisaccountnever
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"bigjon" wrote in message
.. .


I have several of what is in your pic, a "Christmas Cactus", but the one I
ask about is not the same. It has individual "stems" 2 to 3.5 feet long
with large red flowers about three inches across - unless the "Christmas
Cactus" has larger varieties??


'christmas cactus' is a generic name, there are many many species and
hybrids of them, and I suspect that just from pictures it would be very
difficult to find the *exact* one.

I've only ever seen 'Christmas cactus' applied to
Zugocactus/Schlumbergia which has smaller and more tubular flowers than
the one pictured - in other words, I don't think it is a Christmas
cactus at all.

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


ned 03-11-2005 09:16 PM

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"bigjon" wrote in message
...
Tumbleweed decided to add:

"bigjon" wrote in message
.. .

http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/worrisit.htm
(A cactus from Jim Warham - ID Please)

I have the same, I don't know what it is either, but it flowers

thre times
a year and has about 30 flowers each time. It's in a pot 12"

across, it
spreads about 3 feet up and across...

Any ideas?


That looks like a so-called 'christmas cactus' (several varieties)


http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/i...truncatus.html

I have several of what is in your pic, a "Christmas Cactus", but the

one I
ask about is not the same. It has individual "stems" 2 to 3.5 feet

long
with large red flowers about three inches across - unless the

"Christmas
Cactus" has larger varieties??


No, I don't think its a Zygocactus either.
Much more likely to be the Epiphyllum hybrid.

--
ned

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 17.10.2005



ned 03-11-2005 10:17 PM

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"Kay" wrote in message
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In article , Tumbleweed

thisaccountnever
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"bigjon" wrote in message
.. .


I have several of what is in your pic, a "Christmas Cactus", but

the one I
ask about is not the same. It has individual "stems" 2 to 3.5

feet long
with large red flowers about three inches across - unless the

"Christmas
Cactus" has larger varieties??


'christmas cactus' is a generic name, there are many many species

and
hybrids of them, and I suspect that just from pictures it would be

very
difficult to find the *exact* one.

I've only ever seen 'Christmas cactus' applied to
Zugocactus/Schlumbergia which has smaller and more tubular flowers

than
the one pictured - in other words, I don't think it is a Christmas
cactus at all.


I think Schlumbergia is referred to as the Easter or Whitsun cactus
depending on the local dialect. :-))

--
ned

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 17.10.2005



Tumbleweed 04-11-2005 07:43 AM

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"Kay" wrote in message
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In article , Tumbleweed thisaccountnever
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"bigjon" wrote in message
. ..


I have several of what is in your pic, a "Christmas Cactus", but the one
I
ask about is not the same. It has individual "stems" 2 to 3.5 feet long
with large red flowers about three inches across - unless the "Christmas
Cactus" has larger varieties??


'christmas cactus' is a generic name, there are many many species and
hybrids of them, and I suspect that just from pictures it would be very
difficult to find the *exact* one.

I've only ever seen 'Christmas cactus' applied to
Zugocactus/Schlumbergia which has smaller and more tubular flowers than
the one pictured - in other words, I don't think it is a Christmas
cactus at all.

As its a popular name with no precise definition it can be appled to a wide
range of plants, a google even shows a reference to opuntia!!

This link is quite good
http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Christmas_cactus


The common holiday cacti (Thanksgiving Cactus, Christmas Cactus, Easter
Cactus) have many Latin names, but are closely related. They are all
cultivated plants, originating in the mountains north of Rio de Janeiro in
Brasil, South America.
Holiday Cactus Schlumbergera-hybrid:
Christmas Cactus, (Schlumbergera Bridgesii, Schlumbergera x buckleyi,
Epiphyllum x buckleyi).
Thanksgiving Cactus, Yoke Cactus, Linkleaf Cactus, Crab Cactus, Claw Cactus,
(Schlumbergera truncata - former Zygocactus truncatus).
Easter Cactus, (Schlumbergera gaertneri - former Rhipsalidopsis gaertneri).
Some Holiday Cacti are hybrids between Schlumbergera truncata and
Schlumbergera russelliana from about 150 years ago in England. The original
plants grow as epiphytes at elevations between 1000 and 1700 meters in the
Organ Mountains.
One flaw of the holiday cacti is that the joints of the plants are quite
fragile and can break apart if the plant is in poor health. The flower buds'
joints are especially easy to detach.
Not classified latin names:
Epiphyllum altensteinii, Schlumbergera truncata var. altensteinii,
Zygocactus truncatus var. altensteinii, Epiphyllum bridgesii, Epiphyllum
truncatum var. bridgesii, Zygocactus bridgesii, Epiphyllum delicatum,
Schlumbergera truncata var. delicata, Zygocactus delicatus, Epiphyllum
ruckeri, Epiphyllum ruckerianum, Cactus truncatus, Epiphyllum truncatum.

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Kay 04-11-2005 07:59 AM

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In article , Tumbleweed thisaccountnever
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"Kay" wrote in message
...

I've only ever seen 'Christmas cactus' applied to
Zugocactus/Schlumbergia which has smaller and more tubular flowers than
the one pictured - in other words, I don't think it is a Christmas
cactus at all.

As its a popular name with no precise definition it can be appled to a wide
range of plants, a google even shows a reference to opuntia!!

Can we agree, though, that it's definitely not a
Zygocactus/Schlumbergia?

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


Tumbleweed 04-11-2005 08:49 AM

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"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , Tumbleweed thisaccountnever
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"Kay" wrote in message
...

I've only ever seen 'Christmas cactus' applied to
Zugocactus/Schlumbergia which has smaller and more tubular flowers than
the one pictured - in other words, I don't think it is a Christmas
cactus at all.

As its a popular name with no precise definition it can be appled to a
wide
range of plants, a google even shows a reference to opuntia!!

Can we agree, though, that it's definitely not a
Zygocactus/Schlumbergia?


From a single out of focus picture taken head on? There is no way of
knowing, with all the hybrids about there is a huge range of variation. The
single picture certainly isnt good enough quality to tell. 'Holiday cactus'
is probably as much as you'd get agreement on :-)

--
Tumbleweed

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Kay 04-11-2005 09:20 AM

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In article , Tumbleweed thisaccountnever
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"Kay" wrote in message
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Can we agree, though, that it's definitely not a
Zygocactus/Schlumbergia?


From a single out of focus picture taken head on? There is no way of
knowing, with all the hybrids about there is a huge range of variation. The
single picture certainly isnt good enough quality to tell. 'Holiday cactus'
is probably as much as you'd get agreement on :-)

We'll just have to disagree, then. The stems are quite clear in the pic
and are not Schlumbergia, and I don't think there is a Schlumbergia with
3inch diameter flowers.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"


bigjon 04-11-2005 10:03 AM

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Tumbleweed decided to add:

"Kay" wrote in message
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In article , Tumbleweed thisaccountnever
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"Kay" wrote in message
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I've only ever seen 'Christmas cactus' applied to
Zugocactus/Schlumbergia which has smaller and more tubular flowers than
the one pictured - in other words, I don't think it is a Christmas
cactus at all.

As its a popular name with no precise definition it can be appled to a
wide
range of plants, a google even shows a reference to opuntia!!

Can we agree, though, that it's definitely not a
Zygocactus/Schlumbergia?


From a single out of focus picture taken head on? There is no way of
knowing, with all the hybrids about there is a huge range of variation. The
single picture certainly isnt good enough quality to tell. 'Holiday cactus'
is probably as much as you'd get agreement on :-)


Best I can do picture wise is he
http://www.topqualityfreeware.com/re.../whatisit.html

michael adams 04-11-2005 10:20 AM

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"bigjon" wrote in message
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Tumbleweed decided to add:

"Kay" wrote in message
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In article , Tumbleweed

thisaccountnever
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"Kay" wrote in message
...

I've only ever seen 'Christmas cactus' applied to
Zugocactus/Schlumbergia which has smaller and more tubular flowers

than
the one pictured - in other words, I don't think it is a Christmas
cactus at all.

As its a popular name with no precise definition it can be appled to a
wide
range of plants, a google even shows a reference to opuntia!!

Can we agree, though, that it's definitely not a
Zygocactus/Schlumbergia?


From a single out of focus picture taken head on? There is no way of
knowing, with all the hybrids about there is a huge range of variation.

The
single picture certainly isnt good enough quality to tell. 'Holiday

cactus'
is probably as much as you'd get agreement on :-)


Best I can do picture wise is he
http://www.topqualityfreeware.com/re.../whatisit.html


rhipsalidopsis gaertneri (Easter Cactus)

http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/54384/

or -

http://tinyurl.com/8myqg

for -

http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plan...gaertneri.html


(thorry K&T )



michael adams

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