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Old 08-11-2005, 07:43 PM
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Thank you Rusty a good idea and thank you Mike, I have never been up in
the roof, I am told it is very interesting up there, worth considering
:-)
kate
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:59 PM
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On 8/11/05 18:43, in article ,

"Kate
Morgan" wrote:

Thank you Rusty a good idea and thank you Mike, I have never been up in
the roof, I am told it is very interesting up there, worth considering
:-)
kate


I really do hope you are NOT going to allow someone to chisel large holes,
or any holes, in the chimney of an old house like that, however. Sounds
very dangerous to me in terms of the fabric of the building and the future
use of the chimney. Jackdaw nests that have blocked your chimney cannot be
pulled out a stick at a time through a hole that will admit a pair of

hands,
either!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Oh dear :-(( ONCE AGIAN Sacha pokes her nose into something she knows sod
all about. This just happens to be a common practice and the fact that you
have not done it, does NOT mean it shouldn't be done.

Or are you a skilled builder and reconstruction and renovation specialist
now as well?

Kate ignore her and get your local builder in to have a look. Listen to him
because if he is LOCAL he would no doubt have done it before.
And no, huge great holes are NOT going to be made in the chimney breast in
the roof/loft space, they are large enough to get a hand holding a handbag
mirror in and then shining a torch light onto the mirror, the light is
reflected around to see where the nest is. THEN, possibly another small hole
is made in the vacinity of the nest.

Sacha. Shut up.


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Old 08-11-2005, 09:41 PM
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In article ,
says...

"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 8/11/05 18:43, in article
,
"Kate
Morgan" wrote:

Thank you Rusty a good idea and thank you Mike, I have never been up in
the roof, I am told it is very interesting up there, worth considering
:-)
kate


I really do hope you are NOT going to allow someone to chisel large holes,
or any holes, in the chimney of an old house like that, however. Sounds
very dangerous to me in terms of the fabric of the building and the future
use of the chimney. Jackdaw nests that have blocked your chimney cannot be
pulled out a stick at a time through a hole that will admit a pair of

hands,
either!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Oh dear :-(( ONCE AGIAN Sacha pokes her nose into something she knows sod
all about. This just happens to be a common practice and the fact that you
have not done it, does NOT mean it shouldn't be done.

Or are you a skilled builder and reconstruction and renovation specialist
now as well?

Kate ignore her and get your local builder in to have a look. Listen to him
because if he is LOCAL he would no doubt have done it before.
And no, huge great holes are NOT going to be made in the chimney breast in
the roof/loft space, they are large enough to get a hand holding a handbag
mirror in and then shining a torch light onto the mirror, the light is
reflected around to see where the nest is. THEN, possibly another small hole
is made in the vacinity of the nest.

Sacha. Shut up.

Will do Mike thanks again :-)
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Old 08-11-2005, 10:03 PM
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The message k
from Sacha contains these words:

I really do hope you are NOT going to allow someone to chisel large holes,
or any holes, in the chimney of an old house like that, however. Sounds
very dangerous to me in terms of the fabric of the building and the future
use of the chimney. Jackdaw nests that have blocked your chimney cannot be
pulled out a stick at a time through a hole that will admit a pair of hands,
either!


Should be quite safe as long as the chimney isn't a free-standing one,
but it's knowing just where the nest is. Without measuring from the top
you're unlikely to know, and in any case, a house that old tends to have
a fair height of chimney above the roof level, so I wouldn't think an
assault from the loft would be rewarding.

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Rusty
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Old 08-11-2005, 10:07 PM
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from "Mike" contains these words:

Oh dear :-(( ONCE AGIAN Sacha pokes her nose into something she knows sod
all about. This just happens to be a common practice and the fact that you
have not done it, does NOT mean it shouldn't be done.


Well, I would bet a pound to a penny that it should *NOT* be done, not
from the safety point of view, but because the nest is bound to be
several feet above any hole you could make into the flue from the loft.

Or are you a skilled builder and reconstruction and renovation specialist
now as well?


Well, I am, if Sacha isn't.

Kate ignore her and get your local builder in to have a look. Listen to him
because if he is LOCAL he would no doubt have done it before.


With that I wouldn't take issue.

And no, huge great holes are NOT going to be made in the chimney breast in
the roof/loft space, they are large enough to get a hand holding a handbag
mirror in and then shining a torch light onto the mirror, the light is
reflected around to see where the nest is. THEN, possibly another small hole
is made in the vacinity of the nest.


Which is sure to be well out of reach.

Sacha. Shut up.


It would make a nice change if you weren't so needlessly offensive.

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Rusty
horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/
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Old 08-11-2005, 10:50 PM
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"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message
k...
The message k
from Sacha contains these words:

I really do hope you are NOT going to allow someone to chisel large

holes,
or any holes, in the chimney of an old house like that, however. Sounds
very dangerous to me in terms of the fabric of the building and the

future
use of the chimney. Jackdaw nests that have blocked your chimney cannot

be
pulled out a stick at a time through a hole that will admit a pair of

hands,
either!


Should be quite safe as long as the chimney isn't a free-standing one,
but it's knowing just where the nest is. Without measuring from the top
you're unlikely to know, and in any case, a house that old tends to have
a fair height of chimney above the roof level, so I wouldn't think an
assault from the loft would be rewarding.

--


Thus the local builder who would have done it more times than Sacha had
written 'Gardening For Beginners'


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Old 09-11-2005, 09:43 AM
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In article , Kate Morgan
writes
Thank you Rusty a good idea and thank you Mike, I have never been up in
the roof, I am told it is very interesting up there, worth considering
:-)
kate

Just my two pennorth worth, I would get a local builder in as advised, I
wouldn't go knocking holes in the chimney breast unless you really know
what you are getting into, having dismantled a few chimneys... they can
be of all sorts of shapes, sizes and of a varying thickness so I would
use this idea as almost a last resort (the last would be dismantling it)

HTH
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:04 AM
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"David" wrote in message
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In article , Kate Morgan
writes
Thank you Rusty a good idea and thank you Mike, I have never been up in
the roof, I am told it is very interesting up there, worth considering
:-)
kate

Just my two pennorth worth, I would get a local builder in as advised, I
wouldn't go knocking holes in the chimney breast unless you really know
what you are getting into, having dismantled a few chimneys... they can
be of all sorts of shapes, sizes and of a varying thickness so I would
use this idea as almost a last resort (the last would be dismantling it)


especially if the property has been in the hands of a DIY Renovator/Restorer
:-((

My present hose had been in the hands of one of those and he/she removed the
chimney breast from the rooms below and left the chimney stack in the roof
supported on a length of 3 x 2 stretched across the rafters!! Now removed.

The previous house was the same. 'Electrical rewire' and cables going ACROSS
the joists and floorboards laid across those. We wondered what the burning
smell was!! Same house. Partition to make a passageway to the extension and
new bedrooms at the back made of 'any old timber' bodged together. We
wondered why they rocked and were not too secure.

Get the oldest builder you can find. Not some of these "We do everything.
Plumbing, Gardening, Electrical, Extensions" and by 'oldest builder', I mean
the oldest "established" builder in your area.

People have taken great delight in jumping on me as though I talk crap.
Sorry but I have been there, done that, got the tee shirt, nearly had my
house burnt down, nearly had a chimney stack through the roof, thanks to DIY
ers who 'have done it before so we know what we are doing' ..... Yes Sacha
YOU

Mike




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On 9/11/05 9:04, in article
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snip

People have taken great delight in jumping on me as though I talk crap.
Sorry but I have been there, done that, got the tee shirt, nearly had my
house burnt down, nearly had a chimney stack through the roof, thanks to DIY
ers who 'have done it before so we know what we are doing' ..... Yes Sacha
YOU

Mike



You are utterly ridiculous, as is all too usual with you. You think I "Did
It Myself"? How stupid of you to make assumptions but how typical.
I employed professionals on each project and at every stage. I didn't
wield so much as a screwdriver myself. People jump on you because you talk
crap 99.9% of the time, you tell lies and you boast endlessly about how
wonderful you are, how successful, how clever and how popular etc. It falls
firmly into the category of the "fool doth protest too much" and "when a man
speaks of his honour, make him pay cash".
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www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:59 AM
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"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 9/11/05 9:04, in article
, "Mike"
wrote:

snip

People have taken great delight in jumping on me as though I talk crap.
Sorry but I have been there, done that, got the tee shirt, nearly had my
house burnt down, nearly had a chimney stack through the roof, thanks to

DIY
ers who 'have done it before so we know what we are doing' ..... Yes

Sacha
YOU

Mike



You are utterly ridiculous, as is all too usual with you. You think I

"Did
It Myself"? How stupid of you to make assumptions but how typical.
I employed professionals on each project and at every stage. I didn't
wield so much as a screwdriver myself. People jump on you because you

talk
crap 99.9% of the time, you tell lies and you boast endlessly about how
wonderful you are, how successful, how clever and how popular etc. It

falls
firmly into the category of the "fool doth protest too much" and "when a

man
speaks of his honour, make him pay cash".


I'm surprised you rose to the bait, since Mike's comment was clearly
intended to needle you.

Anyway, it's sound advice to consult a competent professional on property
matters. It might even prevent unpleasant surprises, like finding out after
purchase that someone removed the chimney breasts without providing adequate
support for the chimney stacks :-)


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Old 09-11-2005, 12:10 PM
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"Kate Morgan" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
In article , Kate Morgan
writes
Thank you Rusty a good idea and thank you Mike, I have never been up

in
the roof, I am told it is very interesting up there, worth considering
:-)
kate

Just my two pennorth worth, I would get a local builder in as advised, I
wouldn't go knocking holes in the chimney breast unless you really know
what you are getting into, having dismantled a few chimneys... they can
be of all sorts of shapes, sizes and of a varying thickness so I would
use this idea as almost a last resort (the last would be dismantling it)

HTH


I am an OAP and I dont think I could knock the skin of a rice pudding -
not really that feeble and I would eat the rice pudding skin especially
if it were burnt - but thank you for your concern and interest, it will
be local builder and raiding the piggy bank I think :-)

kate


You haven't said if you've tried any other chimney sweeps.

I stand to be corrected, but I don't think chimney sweeps charge
for giving estimates. And so apart from the possible inconvenience of having
loads of extra strangers visiting your home, which you might not welcome,
otherwise there's no harm in you asking any number of reputable chimney
sweeps to have a look. ( Just don't ask me how you discover whether
they're reputable or not.) And give you their opinion. If you look chimney
sweeps up in Yellow pages you might be able to discuss your problem over
the phone. It may be that the first one you asked had an over cautious
attitude, or simply didn't want the extra work involved. In this day
and age, I would imagine nowadays a real professional outfit would have
some sort of camera mounted on the end of their rods along with a light
which they could use to inspect the chimney. If local grocery stores can
afford cameras to catch shoplifters, you'd imagine a sweep could as well.

Chimney sweeps rather than builders should be the specialists for
problems of this kind. And if they know what they're doing, and have
the right equipment, they may be able to do the job in no time
without making a meal of it, or charging you the earth.

Whereas if you ask a builder, no matter how old he is etc. etc.
he has an incentive to make a meal of it by erecting scaffolding
and making as much of a fuss, and charging as much, as he can.

In my opinion at least, there's no harm in asking around.


michael adams

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