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cineman 14-11-2005 04:53 PM

wrong seasons
 
Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting into flower
lovely red.
I suppose it will take a year or so to get back into routine. We also have
passion flower still flowering away merrily, even though we had sufficient
frost last night to darken the leaves of Dahlias, but left bedding begonias
alone.
global warming here we come.
regards
Cineman



Peter Stockdale 14-11-2005 06:35 PM

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"cineman" wrote in message
k...
Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting into
flower lovely red.
I suppose it will take a year or so to get back into routine. We also have
passion flower still flowering away merrily, even though we had sufficient
frost last night to darken the leaves of Dahlias, but left bedding
begonias alone.
global warming here we come.
regards
Cineman



And yet there has been much (expert) talk about a severe winter on the way.
Perhaps not quite as mild as last years I would agree - but I recon the
talkers are wrong.
Speaking as an inexpert
Pete
www.thecanalshop.com



Ian Keeling 14-11-2005 11:10 PM

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Sacha wrote:

Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting into flower
lovely red.


snip

Doesn't it usually do that? I ask because Camellia sasanquas are in flower
now. One we have in the garden has been in flower for a month, at least.
I'll have to go and look at its label tomorrow because I'm not going out
there in the pitch dark and cold! And Camellia sasanqua Narumi Gata is
coming into flower now in another bed.


Oh, go on! Get your torch out - we can't wait till morning! ;-)

Sacha 14-11-2005 11:10 PM

wrong seasons
 
On 14/11/05 16:53, in article
, "cineman"
wrote:

Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting into flower
lovely red.

snip

Doesn't it usually do that? I ask because Camellia sasanquas are in flower
now. One we have in the garden has been in flower for a month, at least.
I'll have to go and look at its label tomorrow because I'm not going out
there in the pitch dark and cold! And Camellia sasanqua Narumi Gata is
coming into flower now in another bed.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Sacha 14-11-2005 11:23 PM

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On 14/11/05 23:10, in article
, "Ian Keeling"
wrote:
Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting into flower
lovely red.


snip


I wrote this bit!

Doesn't it usually do that? I ask because Camellia sasanquas are in flower
now. One we have in the garden has been in flower for a month, at least.
I'll have to go and look at its label tomorrow because I'm not going out
there in the pitch dark and cold! And Camellia sasanqua Narumi Gata is
coming into flower now in another bed.


Oh, go on! Get your torch out - we can't wait till morning! ;-)


It'll do you good. And much more to the point it will do *me* good!! It
begins with a 'T', though - just to keep you occupied! ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Welsh Witch 15-11-2005 07:07 AM

wrong seasons
 
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:53:14 +0000, cineman wrote:

Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting into flower
lovely red.
I suppose it will take a year or so to get back into routine. We also have
passion flower still flowering away merrily, even though we had sufficient
frost last night to darken the leaves of Dahlias, but left bedding begonias
alone.
global warming here we come.
regards
Cineman

***********************
Experts...a frightening word!! There are so many experts all with opposing
views like
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...ts_thickening/
***************************


Sacha 15-11-2005 11:38 AM

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On 14/11/05 23:23, in article
, "Sacha"
wrote:

On 14/11/05 23:10, in article
, "Ian Keeling"
wrote:
Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting into
flower
lovely red.

snip


I wrote this bit!

Doesn't it usually do that? I ask because Camellia sasanquas are in flower
now. One we have in the garden has been in flower for a month, at least.
I'll have to go and look at its label tomorrow because I'm not going out
there in the pitch dark and cold! And Camellia sasanqua Narumi Gata is
coming into flower now in another bed.


Oh, go on! Get your torch out - we can't wait till morning! ;-)


It'll do you good. And much more to the point it will do *me* good!! It
begins with a 'T', though - just to keep you occupied! ;-)


I was wrong, it's not a sasanqua, it's a japonica, one of those which
flowers early, so it had me fooled. It's 'Takahini' and shows every promise
of being a really marvellous plant. Ours is a real baby, probably no more
than 2' tall but it's covered in buds and the flowers are a wonderful deep
plummy red - rather unusual in Camellias. It was bred in Auckland, New
Zealand and I think we got ours from Trehane Nursery in Cornwall - it's not
all that easy to find in UK.
We also have a 'fishtail Camellia, Camellia japonica 'Kingyo-Tsubaki', which
has a most interesting leaf which is split and slightly twisted at the tip.
These came from Agatha Christie's old garden at Greenway and were given to
us by a cousin of her husband. It's only the more discerning observer that
notices those but they come and ask us "is that Camellia okay?" quite often!
I have an ongoing love affair with Camellias which started when I became
more interested in gardening. My ex f-i-l had a wonderful Camellia avenue
in his Jersey garden and more of them lining a drive to the house. I think
they captured my heart the first time I saw that, way back in the mid 70s.
He was very involved with the International Camellia Society so it was
probably a case of subtle brainwashing! Grow more, grow more!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


cineman 15-11-2005 11:45 PM

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"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 14/11/05 16:53, in article
, "cineman"
wrote:

Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting into
flower
lovely red.

snip

Doesn't it usually do that? I ask because Camellia sasanquas are in
flower
now. One we have in the garden has been in flower for a month, at least.
I'll have to go and look at its label tomorrow because I'm not going out
there in the pitch dark and cold! And Camellia sasanqua Narumi Gata is
coming into flower now in another bed.
--
Sacha


Hi Sacha,
This Camelia flowered springish last year, sorry earlier this year, I was
afraid the frosts would hit them, (never been succesful with them before)
with just one or two buds, Both small plants are well endowed with buds, and
one bud is now opening..
Even my runner beans are sprouting again, I left the tubers in to provide
noitrogen for next years new growth.
Oh well, just have to learn to live with dahlias in flower at christmas soon
I suppose.
reghards
Cineman
West Midlands
UK


www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)




Stewart Robert Hinsley 16-11-2005 01:54 AM

wrong seasons
 
In message , Welsh
Witch writes
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:53:14 +0000, cineman wrote:

Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting into flower
lovely red.
I suppose it will take a year or so to get back into routine. We also have
passion flower still flowering away merrily, even though we had sufficient
frost last night to darken the leaves of Dahlias, but left bedding begonias
alone.
global warming here we come.
regards
Cineman

***********************
Experts...a frightening word!! There are so many experts all with opposing
views like
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...ts_thickening/
***************************

What would be the opposing views here?
--
alias Ernest Major

Sacha 16-11-2005 07:37 AM

wrong seasons
 
On 15/11/05 23:45, in article ,
"cineman" wrote:

snip
This Camelia flowered springish last year, sorry earlier this year, I was
afraid the frosts would hit them, (never been succesful with them before)
with just one or two buds, Both small plants are well endowed with buds, and
one bud is now opening..
Even my runner beans are sprouting again, I left the tubers in to provide
noitrogen for next years new growth.
Oh well, just have to learn to live with dahlias in flower at christmas soon
I suppose.


It's certainly a 'funny' year with regard to what is flowering, remaining in
flower, or starting all over again!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Charlie Pridham 16-11-2005 09:50 AM

wrong seasons
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 14/11/05 23:23, in article
, "Sacha"
wrote:

On 14/11/05 23:10, in article
, "Ian Keeling"
wrote:
Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting into
flower
lovely red.

snip


I wrote this bit!

Doesn't it usually do that? I ask because Camellia sasanquas are in

flower
now. One we have in the garden has been in flower for a month, at

least.
I'll have to go and look at its label tomorrow because I'm not going

out
there in the pitch dark and cold! And Camellia sasanqua Narumi Gata

is
coming into flower now in another bed.

Oh, go on! Get your torch out - we can't wait till morning! ;-)


It'll do you good. And much more to the point it will do *me* good!!

It
begins with a 'T', though - just to keep you occupied! ;-)


I was wrong, it's not a sasanqua, it's a japonica, one of those which
flowers early, so it had me fooled. It's 'Takahini' and shows every

promise
of being a really marvellous plant. Ours is a real baby, probably no more
than 2' tall but it's covered in buds and the flowers are a wonderful deep
plummy red - rather unusual in Camellias. It was bred in Auckland, New
Zealand and I think we got ours from Trehane Nursery in Cornwall - it's

not
all that easy to find in UK.
We also have a 'fishtail Camellia, Camellia japonica 'Kingyo-Tsubaki',

which
has a most interesting leaf which is split and slightly twisted at the

tip.
These came from Agatha Christie's old garden at Greenway and were given to
us by a cousin of her husband. It's only the more discerning observer

that
notices those but they come and ask us "is that Camellia okay?" quite

often!
I have an ongoing love affair with Camellias which started when I became
more interested in gardening. My ex f-i-l had a wonderful Camellia avenue
in his Jersey garden and more of them lining a drive to the house. I think
they captured my heart the first time I saw that, way back in the mid 70s.
He was very involved with the International Camellia Society so it was
probably a case of subtle brainwashing! Grow more, grow more!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

Just been to Greenway to pick up a Lapageria and was allowed around the
garden which is closed at this time of year, slow progress but it is coming
on, most Camelia's were in heavy bud but some of the Autumn sorts were in
flower and of course scented, always a bonus. Too tender for us here I
think.
Did not try and fit in a visit to Hill House I am afraid too much on, I had
a talk to do on the way home, but it was a lovely sunny day.
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)



Sacha 16-11-2005 12:47 PM

wrong seasons
 
On 16/11/05 9:50, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...

snip
These came from Agatha Christie's old garden at Greenway and were given to
us by a cousin of her husband. It's only the more discerning observer

that
notices those but they come and ask us "is that Camellia okay?" quite

snip
Just been to Greenway to pick up a Lapageria and was allowed around the
garden which is closed at this time of year, slow progress but it is coming
on, most Camelia's were in heavy bud but some of the Autumn sorts were in
flower and of course scented, always a bonus. Too tender for us here I
think.
Did not try and fit in a visit to Hill House I am afraid too much on, I had
a talk to do on the way home, but it was a lovely sunny day.


When Ray has a 'fishtail' going spare, we'll have to try that with you. This
cousin isn't entirely happy with what's happening in the garden, I think but
she's known it for all her life and must find the changes hard to take, I
think.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Sacha 16-11-2005 12:48 PM

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On 16/11/05 12:16, in article ,
"Dave Poole" wrote:

Sacha wrote:

It's certainly a 'funny' year with regard to what is flowering, remaining in
flower, or starting all over again!


Yes, back in September, I got fed up with old growths on Canna
'Wyoming' since most had flowered and were looking very tired. I
chopped the lot right back, leaving just a few basal leaves. Now the
clump is back up to 1.5m high and in full flower. Flaming orange
against the rich purple foliage is very cheering at this time of year
:) Thankfully it has not yet dropped below 5C so far and with a bit
of luck it will carry on for a few weeks yet.

I'm sure you fertilise half your plants with steroids!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Mike Lyle 16-11-2005 02:30 PM

wrong seasons
 
Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , Welsh
Witch writes
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:53:14 +0000, cineman wrote:

Hi,
Talk about this year being odd. we have a cammelia just bursting
into flower lovely red.
I suppose it will take a year or so to get back into routine. We
also have passion flower still flowering away merrily, even

though
we had sufficient frost last night to darken the leaves of

Dahlias,
but left bedding begonias alone.
global warming here we come.
regards
Cineman

***********************
Experts...a frightening word!! There are so many experts all with
opposing views like
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11...ts_thickening/
***************************

What would be the opposing views here?


I'm a damned sight less frightened by experts than I am by
speed-reading amateurs! -- And the profiteers who do well out of
them. (See MRSA, MMR, etc etc.) And, of course, there's no inherent
contradiction in global warming causing some places to get cooler
than they used to be.

--
Mike.



Sacha 16-11-2005 03:32 PM

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On 16/11/05 14:37, in article ,
"martin" wrote:

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:48:10 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 16/11/05 12:16, in article
,
"Dave Poole" wrote:

Sacha wrote:

It's certainly a 'funny' year with regard to what is flowering, remaining
in
flower, or starting all over again!

Yes, back in September, I got fed up with old growths on Canna
'Wyoming' since most had flowered and were looking very tired. I
chopped the lot right back, leaving just a few basal leaves. Now the
clump is back up to 1.5m high and in full flower. Flaming orange
against the rich purple foliage is very cheering at this time of year
:) Thankfully it has not yet dropped below 5C so far and with a bit
of luck it will carry on for a few weeks yet.

I'm sure you fertilise half your plants with steroids!


Maybe something to do with the way Dave activates his manure?


I wouldn't *dream* of enquiring. All I can say is that his manners when
scoffing our chocolate cake are absolutely impeccable. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)



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