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madgardener 13-12-2005 07:08 PM

Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon (this is rather long, so be warned.....it's been awhile)
 
I had come into a mother lode of discarded bulbs behind a Lowes last week,
and had put them in my cat bag for later sorting. When I checked the same
location I'd found the first discarded bags of bulbs, I discovered some
more,narcissus, Pink Pride, White Lion and three bags of those HUGE Dutch
iris bulbs in 15 count bags that had sold full price for $8.95, some bags of
Lord Lieutenant anemone, a bag of Viking tulip, which is a red double, and
two bags of miniature narcissus mixed. Why these were in the trash behind
the store, I never asked. I figured the Spring bulb fairies were just
giving me a Christmas present and let it go at that.

My gardening friend, Diane was going to get a huge surprise when I finally
connected with her. I had plans to take the whole bag of all of them, we'd
sort out and throw away the moldy ones, the flat and deflated ones that
couldn't take the heat of the store and used up all their resources and
died, leaving us all the firm and undiseased or damaged ones to divide
equally. I knew I'd give her the largest ones (if she'd let me, but as many
as there were, I knew we'd both get large ones) and then we'd mix them up on
her table and start counting them out between us.

Her week had been as chaotic as mine. Mine was just the chaos of home
right now with Squire being out of commission with work and just the drama
of life up here in Fairy Holler. Her's was more the seasonal stress in an
office environment.

I finally hooked up with her at the end of the week, and we set a definite
date to sort and share. I informed Squire where I'd be going Friday
morning, and I set the stuffed and heavy bag of bulbs on the balcony off
son's bedroom to stay chilled until Friday just under the eaves of the house
so rains wouldn't wet and freeze them until then.

So Friday I rolled out of a warm bed covered with two dawgs, two cats and
the sun peeking a little bit thru the window, and got myself together and
informed Squire that I was off. Grabbed the HEAVY bag of bulbs off the
balcony, called Diane to give her a warning in case she wanted to hide, and
headed towards her house which is 14 miles away.

The day was bright, and I decided to grab a sweet iced tea at a neat little
affordable burger stand before going to her house, stopped at the bank and
did my Friday business on the way to get my tea, and then hooked around to
her house. I had decided to leave the dawgs at home with Squire, which
would be my undoing later on......

When she answered the door, she almost fell out when she saw the size of my
cat bag and that it was literally crammed and packed FULL of bags of bulbs.
I laughed at her amazement and knew we were about to have ourselves a ball
sorting and chatting over the booty. She has this little terrier that is a
real pistol, Abby is her name. Looks like a miniature terrier/grey hound
that has quite a **** and vinegar attitude that I love. And she adores me.
Leaps up and down in ecstatic pleasure to see me until "Aunt Maddie" picks
her up, and she promptly tries to give me the tongue and kiss me. It's
hilarious and cute. Before she would even give me the "wee wee of joy" that
some younger dogs do when someone they really like turn up. Not this time
though. We went thru our rituals of greetings, I picked her up and she
tried to kiss me before I finally put her little butt down so we could get
started.

I was having way more fun than I should have, but we quickly came to a nice
conclusion that Diane had never had this many bulbs to plant before and it
just tickled my garden bones to find this out. We laughed and started
sorting the types, I remembered we needed to see what some of these were,
and asked if she still had her Beauty from Bulbs from Sheepers (GREAT
visual of almost every spring bulb you'd ever need or want) and of course
she did. I decided to mark the bulbs she was getting if I could find them.
(we found all but 'Pink Pride' narcissus, and there was two bags of unmarked
tulip bulbs that we won't know who until they bloom in the spring. Doncha
just LOVE surprises???)

One bag of De Caene anemone went to her. I have enough to surprise me if
they germinate. We poured out bags of similar bulbs first and searched for
moldy ones and flat, dry ones to toss. Abby was beyond curiosity. She'd go
from sniffing the trash can to jumping up on my lap like a little dog/cat
and then be off on her own adventures for a few moments before returning to
see what we were still doing.

First things first were the little's. I knew the Iris reticulata's would be
easy. There were more dried bulbs from these than anything else. Some
tulips were moldy and rather than save them by dusting them, we just tossed
'em. It wasn't like we were going to miss 3-8 bulbs out of a few
hundred...... As we located specific bulbs that had markings or remnants of
the cardboard signage left (most of the bags were gone, so some of the bulbs
were true mysteries) I hunted them up in the Sheepers bulb, and marked them
for her. Then we divided them and moved on to the next batch.

None of the narcissus were bad. In fact, all of them were two and three
nose bulbs, and whenever we had odd numbers, I automatically shoved them
towards her. I knew I was facing a task to find an empty spot to put all of
mine, whereas her and her yard would definitely benefit from all these bulbs
come Spring time.

The largest amount of bulbs we had to share were the Dutch iris. I knew
these bulbs from sight (along with all of them but the color of the tulips)
and we had little normal sized Dutch iris bulbs, and then these HUGE ones.
By the time we finished, it was time for her to get ready for work, and me
to return home to decide where I'd plant all of my share.

Now we're two days later. We'd gotten some wonderful rain instead of snow or
ice the other day, and the beds were soft and cold. I had definite idea's
where to put crocus and small iris reticulata's, and Tarda daffs I decided
I'd put under the black cherry tree in the shade bed in clumps. With the
late hours I'd kept Saturday night, Squire had let me sleep way later than I
realized until I finally dragged myself out and saw it was late afternoon.
wow.........I was losing light! So after I did the dishes and helped him
with starting the pot for his beef stew (he decided he wanted to show me how
HE made beef stew, and I hafta tell ya, it was awesome!) I told him I was
going outside while I still had light to try and plant as many bulbs as I
could.

I snagged my new soft hat with the ear flaps, located the dark, micro fleece
muffler to tie around my neck and after a few moments to discover a
sweatshirt and undershirt wasn't going to be enough outside, I found a
fleecy overshirt to throw on. Socks, couldn't find my shoes, so I grabbed
sandals and then hunted for the new kitten, Maggie. This was to be a
"family" moment, with me giving her an opportunity to be outside in the
fresh air supervised and me keeping an eye on her. Since the mean ass
little rat terrier, Peanut, from across the driveway had died Thursday, I
new Maggie wouldn't be at risk of attack from him and I could take my eyes
off her and get down to serious plantings.

The dawgs were waiting by the nook door when I came back inside to grab the
overshirt, being psychic and knowing something was afoot, and I turned them
loose to do their crazy games they play with each other, scooped up Maggie,
and the bag of bulbs, and left the nook door slightly open in case she ran
back to the nook deck and wanted back inside.

I then located my trowel that Mary Emma had given me (the wedge shaped one
with the red handle), my neat dibble stick I found at the seed store in
Knoxville for the little bulbs (cold soil meant achy fingers later, cutting
my planting down drastically, I have been collecting really GOOD tools over
the years) and my Sears trowel for the larger bulbs. Then I located the
chair pad and my super padded bean shaped kneeling pad, and was all set.

Maggie was already running under the van, over to Jerry's old truck, under
the still dead car beside my black cherry tree and shade garden on the
concrete slab, and when I called her (I didn't want her in Jerry's yard) she
actually came! Of course, Sugar and Sméagol also came when I called Maggie,
which freaked her out, she triple puffed up her tail, causing me to almost
choke myself with laughter, and she ran up the black cherry's huge trunk and
discovered a perfect perch where she could look down on me while I was in
the shade bed planting the little bulbs and the Tarda's.

The late afternoon's light was fading fast, but it wasn't so cold that I
couldn't stand it. The fleecy shirt was just heavy enough with my sweatshirt
to protect me, the chair cushion and the bean kneeler was just soft enough
on my knees, and the micro fleece muffler was just right with the silly hat
with the ear flaps. I was ready to do some serious planting. I could hear
titterings of fairies hiding under the leaves as I knelt and got comfortable
(it's probably the new hat.............)

I looked up above me and Maggie was perched on a stub of a branch I'd cut
years before, and I could hear Sugar and Sméagol growling and thrashing thru
leaves over somewhere in their dog games. To the north of me, just past my
woods in the holler below, I started hearing other sounds. As I sorted the
bulbs into types to dibble into the cold black soil, I realized what the
sounds were. Wild turkeys! They were talking to each other before roosting
and I was hearing them saying good night to each other. It was wonderful.

As I tucked little bulbs and tiny babies that had gotten knocked off, into
the small dibble holes, I listened harder and started hearing the scoldings
of tit-mice and finches, and knew someone had spotted the kitten. Then I
looked up from my hovering over the soil to see that their scolding weren't
just for Maggie, Pester's or Krusty the Kat was outside checking to see what
all the hubbub was about, bub......

Before I could greet HIM, I saw another member of our feline kindle. Ol'
Fat Waddles Himself, Polluxx aka Pudd was waddling towards us underneath the
bare cherry tree. About the time he opened up his mouth to greet me, the
dawgs came rip shit tear ass up, around and over him causing him to do a fat
scramble and book off. Fastest I've seen him move since he got so fat. I
actually dropped my dibble to laugh at him.

The light was stretching thin, and I moved to the north side of the bed
where I'd finished the bed last year, and started searching for spots to
tuck bulbs into. Moving leaves around to expose the black worm soil and
composted leaves and chips from years back, I actually found the tips of my
Woodstock hyacinths were peeking outa the bed. Bad hyacinths! Get back in
there!! (this is the only problem with raised beds, as bulbs are warmer in
the soils and tend to break sooner, but then, with our strange weather
lately, it could just be that too........)

As I found little niches to tuck more bulbs into, something yellow caught my
eye.......gather the tools, put the empties into a bag, where did I leave my
sweet iced tea? Get the padded things, push up offa the ground, check on
Maggie, who had slipped me and had gone down the tree and was racing thru
the leaves like something possessed. She was loving it. Then I ambled over
to the yellow I was seeing and was amazed to see the December joke......my
yellow corydalis was still blooming! And not only that, but this past season
was a very fertile one because I have six clumps growing!!!! WOW!!!!
Little yellow britches were floating over the cut columbine-like leaves, and
a new clump of greenish yellow ones that haven't opened up yet were on
another stem just below. My eyes started looking for sprouts of corydalis,
and sure enough, there was a seeded clump of them below in the washed soils
that had hung up on the flood hump just beneath the wall. I'll lift them
later. For now they're sheltered and I'll just let them grow larger. That's
a share plantlet.

Since I was working to the next place to plant more bulbs, I walked on over
to the Lady Jane magnolia with the raised well around her, and started
gently moving leaves to clear area's to tuck the Pink Pride's. That was a
job for the wedge, and I carefully plunged the blade into the loose, rich
soil in case I came across the few bulbs I'd tucked in there last year when
I made the planter for the shrub, and placed all of the narcissus
everywhere. I also put the smaller Dutch iris bulbs and some Iris
reticulata's underneath the shrubs limbs that are loaded with fuzzy little
promises of next year's flowers.

I made a mental note to get a bag of bulb food granules off the shelves on
the kitchen deck later on. The outside motion light had come on and I had
taken the extra light forgranted, when I decided to check my watch. It was
almost six. I had been going at it for almost two hours and I still had all
those Dutch iris biggies to plant. They'd have to wait as I was starting to
feel the chill of dampness and cold getting to me. I called Maggie, and was
impressed that she came when I called her, but once again the dogs unsettled
her, and she raced towards the NSSG to hide under the new deck.

Taking this opportunity, I told the dawgs to git in the house, and they
complied reluctlantly. Sugar knows how to nose the door, and was already
inside, but Smeagol is kinda an idiot about these things. He waited for me
to open the door further for him before he'd go inside. I closed the door
behind them and started calling Maggie. Once I cornered her, we went around
the back of the house, as I searched for candidates to receive the iris
bulbs. The downstairs laundry room door beckoned me, and I realized that
son was on the computer in the dragon den, so I opened up the door and let
Maggie go inside, and shut the door behind her, and I made my way up
underneath the kitchen deck and to the western side yard.

A quick scan in the now almost darkness, showed me likely places to tuck
them, but I want to make a whole patch of them. So I decided to wait
another day when I could see where I was tucking them. The side porch swing
was a perfect place to put the bag of bulbs with the trowel's and planters
and pads, and I went on and got a bag of granular food and placed it next to
the bulbs to remind me to feed these a little bit since they were planted so
late.

The dawgs were waiting for me at the kitchen door as I ducked inside, and as
I greeted them, Maggie popped up from the basement door and scrambled down
the hallway in hot pursuit of the kitten toys that are everywhere just for
her. Our house looks like we have a small child with the many rattling and
noise making toys that are scattered about. On top of the microwave, a
cactus was blooming red and white blossoms. How wonderful! The moisture
from the stew and the humidifier made the air warm and wonderful, and
reminded me it was colder outside than I had realized.

Squire got the rundown from me as I went to my fantastic bathroom faucet
with the intense pressure that knocks dirt from underneath fingernails, got
rid of all the black soil, and noticed in the mirror I was a walking leaf
pile. But it sure felt good to get most of those bulbs into the ground. Now
it's all up to the fairies to tuck them in deeper and coax them to show
themselves to me come true spring. The rest will be planted another day.
Tomorrow is calling for spits of rain, and despite that I'm known to plant
and play in the gardens when it rains, this is WINTER rains, and I'm not
about to ruin my garden chances with a bout of bronchitis or pneumonia. I've
already lost a whole late spring and a whole summer as it is.

The last thing I thought about before going into the kitchen to get a bowl
of hot beef stew that Squire had made was the next thing is start on the
vinca major. I have real hopes to remove ALL of it by springtime. Wish me
luck............

thanks for allowing me to share a moment with you.
madgardener up on the ridge, back in Fairy Holler, overlooking English
Mountain in Eastern Tennessee, zone 7, Sunset zone 36











TR 13-12-2005 11:07 PM

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snip

coo thanks for sharing your life and history
but its nice to know you are shoving the bulbs in
here in the UK we did most of that a month ago
i have snowdrops on the front lawn for the first time as we had a real cold
spell a week or two ago
briing on global warming if it means i get a great summer
dave



PammyT 13-12-2005 11:16 PM

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"madgardener" wrote in message
...
I had come into a mother lode of discarded bulbs behind a Lowes last week,

What is a lowes?



TR 13-12-2005 11:33 PM

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it used to be a rather sad resort
where the old folks went to sit by the sae and then quietly pass on

"PammyT" wrote in message
...

"madgardener" wrote in message
...
I had come into a mother lode of discarded bulbs behind a Lowes last
week,

What is a lowes?





Phil L 14-12-2005 12:01 AM

Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon (this is rather long, so be warned.....it's been awhile)
 
PammyT wrote:
"madgardener" wrote in message
...
I had come into a mother lode of discarded bulbs behind a Lowes last
week, What is a lowes?


Their version of B & Q I think, see he

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...owes.com/lowes

BTW I can't see the OP, only replies by you and TR...



La puce 14-12-2005 12:08 AM

Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon (this is rather long, so be warned.....it's been awhile)
 

Phil L wrote:

PammyT wrote:
"madgardener" wrote in message
...
I had come into a mother lode of discarded bulbs behind a Lowes last
week, What is a lowes?


Their version of B & Q I think, see he

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...owes.com/lowes

BTW I can't see the OP, only replies by you and TR...


Me too. Wot wot? Wot is the question?


madgardener 14-12-2005 07:01 AM

Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon (this is rather long, so be warned.....it's been awhile)
 

"PammyT" wrote in message
...

"madgardener" wrote in message
...
I had come into a mother lode of discarded bulbs behind a Lowes last
week,

What is a lowes?


hmmmmmmmm, it's kinda a super store home improvement place. They have a full
lumber section with everything you'd need, including Commercial sales for
houses and such. nails, all that sort. cement. etc, then there's a flooring
section, rugs, tiles, linoleum, etc. a home decorating department,
wallpaper, paint department, curtains, draperies, appliances of all sorts,
plumbing, a light fixture section with bulbs and all that sort, a complete
tool section, organizational section with things to organize with, then a
fireplace/lawnmower/small tractor/section that is seasonal in that they have
chain saws, tillers, fertilzers, insecticides, a section for pool stuff,
then the outside garden center that has fencing, a few dog kennels, paving
stuff for walls and stepping stones, corregated pipe for draining, trees,
shrubs, bags of soils, rocks, peat moss, compost, manure. perennials,
annuals, tropicals (the one I used to work at had a full greenhouse where
the tropicals winter) cacti, succulents, landscape timbers, railroad ties,
composit timbers and decking,then on the end of the greenhouse is where the
patio furniture and cushions are. Outside are outbuildings and whatnot.

It's like kinda but not quite a Home Depot (which is like Lowes, only their
color for their stores is orange, where Lowes is Red and Blue.......and
there's always a price war going on with Lowes and Depot. It's kinda fun,
in a way, except when it gets stupid...............same job politics
sometimes. but I always enjoyed working in the garden center. I got
disgusted a year and a half into the job with their not having enough strong
backed young loaders (I'm 52 and incapable of lifting more than two or three
railroad ties before my back tells me to go to hell) about the time they
started cutting part time hours severely to save money and put money in the
managers purses, and after a particularly horrendous day, I put in for cash
register, and the manager decided to "get even" with me by putting me in the
lumber department on the opposite side of the store (like being miles away
from my plants) but the customers still found me and for some
reason...........some refused to shop the garden center when they couldn't
find me......hmmmmmm was that because I was so informative and helpful??
could be! LOL but I left in April when my conflicting schedules started
showing on my health in the long drives. I am and was putting in 860 miles a
week to get my son to work, and it was just easier to quit and just take him
until he reinstates his license. (that's the Cliff note version, as short
as I can make it) hope this helps clear that mystery up. I have no idea what
compares to Lowes or Home Depot over there, but enlighten me. I'm always
curious.......g
madgardener



madgardener 14-12-2005 07:02 AM

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I am a rather windy broad................gbseg
maddie
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "Phil L" contains these words:

PammyT wrote:
"madgardener" wrote in message
...
I had come into a mother lode of discarded bulbs behind a Lowes last
week, What is a lowes?


Their version of B & Q I think, see he


http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...owes.com/lowes


BTW I can't see the OP, only replies by you and TR...


Have you got your newsreader set to reject long posts? That could be
why you're not seeing it.

Janet




PammyT 14-12-2005 05:08 PM

Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon (this is rather long, so be warned.....it's been awhile)
 

"madgardener" wrote in message
...

"PammyT" wrote in message
...

"madgardener" wrote in message
...
I had come into a mother lode of discarded bulbs behind a Lowes last
week,

What is a lowes?


hmmmmmmmm, it's kinda a super store home improvement place. They have a

full
lumber section with everything you'd need, including Commercial sales for
houses and such. nails, all that sort. cement. etc, then there's a

flooring
section, rugs, tiles, linoleum, etc. a home decorating department,
wallpaper, paint department, curtains, draperies, appliances of all sorts,
plumbing, a light fixture section with bulbs and all that sort, a complete
tool section, organizational section with things to organize with, then a
fireplace/lawnmower/small tractor/section that is seasonal in that they

have
chain saws, tillers, fertilzers, insecticides, a section for pool stuff,
then the outside garden center that has fencing, a few dog kennels, paving
stuff for walls and stepping stones, corregated pipe for draining, trees,
shrubs, bags of soils, rocks, peat moss, compost, manure. perennials,
annuals, tropicals (the one I used to work at had a full greenhouse where
the tropicals winter) cacti, succulents, landscape timbers, railroad ties,
composit timbers and decking,then on the end of the greenhouse is where

the
patio furniture and cushions are. Outside are outbuildings and whatnot.

It's like kinda but not quite a Home Depot (which is like Lowes, only

their
color for their stores is orange, where Lowes is Red and Blue.......and
there's always a price war going on with Lowes and Depot. It's kinda fun,
in a way, except when it gets stupid...............same job politics
sometimes. but I always enjoyed working in the garden center. I got
disgusted a year and a half into the job with their not having enough

strong
backed young loaders (I'm 52 and incapable of lifting more than two or

three
railroad ties before my back tells me to go to hell) about the time they
started cutting part time hours severely to save money and put money in

the
managers purses, and after a particularly horrendous day, I put in for

cash
register, and the manager decided to "get even" with me by putting me in

the
lumber department on the opposite side of the store (like being miles away
from my plants) but the customers still found me and for some
reason...........some refused to shop the garden center when they couldn't
find me......hmmmmmm was that because I was so informative and helpful??
could be! LOL but I left in April when my conflicting schedules started
showing on my health in the long drives. I am and was putting in 860 miles

a
week to get my son to work, and it was just easier to quit and just take

him
until he reinstates his license. (that's the Cliff note version, as short
as I can make it) hope this helps clear that mystery up. I have no idea

what
compares to Lowes or Home Depot over there, but enlighten me. I'm always
curious.......g
madgardener


Someone emailed me and told me is was an American chain of stores. If this
is the case, why post about it on a U.K. newsgroup? It has no relevance here
since there aren't any of these places over here.



Bob Hobden 14-12-2005 05:20 PM

Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon (this is rather long, so be warned.....it's been awhile)
 

"PammyT" wrote

Someone emailed me and told me is was an American chain of stores. If this
is the case, why post about it on a U.K. newsgroup? It has no relevance
here
since there aren't any of these places over here.


Because she was asked to, see Janet's post of the 3th.

I enjoyed reading Maddies post on bulb planting as did a number of others
here, after all, bulb planting in Tennessee is much the same as bulb
planting here. Then someone else asked her what Lowes was that she had
mentioned and she replied which is where you appear to have come in Pammy.
:-)

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London




Chris Bacon 14-12-2005 05:24 PM

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PammyT wrote:
"madgardener" wrote...
Lowes or Home Depot


Someone emailed me and told me is was an American chain of stores. If this
is the case, why post about it on a U.K. newsgroup? It has no relevance here
since there aren't any of these places over here.


I'm sure they sell secateurs.... here's a pair for you 8 :)

Mike Lyle 14-12-2005 05:26 PM

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Chris Bacon wrote:
PammyT wrote:
"madgardener" wrote...
Lowes or Home Depot


Someone emailed me and told me is was an American chain of

stores.
If this is the case, why post about it on a U.K. newsgroup? It has
no relevance here since there aren't any of these places over

here.

I'm sure they sell secateurs.... here's a pair for you 8 :)


Appreciative smirk

--
Mike.



madgardener 14-12-2005 08:54 PM

Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon (this is rather long, so be warned.....it's been awhile)
 

"PammyT" wrote in message
...

Someone emailed me and told me is was an American chain of stores. If this
is the case, why post about it on a U.K. newsgroup? It has no relevance
here
since there aren't any of these places over here.


there's always one person...............Pammy T, if you'd have read the
thread above before this explaination, you'd have seen that I was responding
to where I USED to work in a garden center at Lowes. as for it having no
relevance on the newsgroup, you're probably right a little bit. But since I
did work at a garden center, it does seem to apply in an offbeat
way.............now to clarify it just for you................I am a
gardener who lives in Eastern Tennessee, who writes about her escapades with
gardening and the critters and fairies that reside up here on the ridge with
my own hollow and woods. Janet thought it would be nice if I cross posted a
piece I'd written about planting bulbs (see header.................) and
explained a little bit about ME, as she's been visiting and coresponding
with me for a few years now. As for me stepping on yer tit, I apologize.
But for those who really know me, I do sometimes go off topic (not in this
instance) but when I DO, I mark it OFF TOPIC or OT.......

hope this doesn't offend you, as it was never my intention. and I'll be
posting more gardening essays and rambling bits of horticultural escapades
in the future. and yes, I am a bit wordy. it's always been my nature. I
talk like I write, and visa versa. Have a great hump day and week sugar.

madgardener up on the ridge, back in Fairy Holler, overlooking a shrouded
English Mountain in Eastern Tennessee waiting for the storm that they say is
coming




TR 14-12-2005 09:30 PM

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who writes about her escapades with
gardening and the critters and fairies


come on then prove that statement i want pictures of the fairies
as appose to the fairys who reside around here
dave
if you got em you can prove it im sure

we got pictsies
blue wiv attitude round here see mr T Prattchet for proof

dave



Rupert 14-12-2005 09:50 PM

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"TR" you @me wrote in message ...
who writes about her escapades with
gardening and the critters and fairies


come on then prove that statement i want pictures of the fairies
as appose to the fairys who reside around here
dave
if you got em you can prove it im sure

we got pictsies
blue wiv attitude round here see mr T Prattchet for proof

dave


She has already posted this link--but just for your benefit here it is again
http://www.cottingleyconnect.org.uk/fairs.htm



madgardener 15-12-2005 03:44 AM

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from "PammyT" contains these words:

Someone emailed me and told me is was an American chain of stores. If
this
is the case, why post about it on a U.K. newsgroup? It has no relevance
here
since there aren't any of these places over here.


Because YOU asked her , here

The message
from "PammyT" contains these words:

"madgardener" wrote in message
...
I had come into a mother lode of discarded bulbs behind a Lowes last
week,


What is a lowes?


/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Her location in America was clear to you in the sig of her post ,
which you replied to.

Janet


and this is why I love ya so..................................gbseg
maddie



madgardener 15-12-2005 03:48 AM

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"Rupert" wrote in message
...

"TR" you @me wrote in message ...
who writes about her escapades with
gardening and the critters and fairies


come on then prove that statement i want pictures of the fairies
as appose to the fairys who reside around here
dave
if you got em you can prove it im sure

we got pictsies
blue wiv attitude round here see mr T Prattchet for proof

dave


She has already posted this link--but just for your benefit here it is
again
http://www.cottingleyconnect.org.uk/fairs.htm


well love, I hate to say it, but those damn fairies are so quick, that my
little inexpensive Canon digital just can't seem to grab their images. But I
tell you, I see their handiwork every day when I go outside and look at and
admire the little magic moments in my raised gardens. Besides, the wee
faerie folk are a bit camera shy.................if you squint really hard
and try and focus when hummingbirds and butterflies are flitting about, you
might catch sight of a smaller flower fairy riding them and laughing their
faces off. My proof that mine are around here in my holler is that they
keep moving my bulbs! And planting flowers where I never had them before.
madgardener, up on the ridge, back in Faerie Holler, overlooking English
Mountain in this crisp, bright, almost full moon just before Winter
Solstice, in Eastern Tennessee, growing zone 7, Sunset zone 36



Judith Lea 15-12-2005 09:43 AM

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In article , madgardener
writes
hope this doesn't offend you, as it was never my intention. and I'll be
posting more gardening essays and rambling bits of horticultural escapades
in the future. and yes, I am a bit wordy. it's always been my nature. I
talk like I write, and visa versa. Have a great hump day and week sugar.


Keep on posting; I was feeling rather tired as a result of crawling
around the floor yesterday at my daughter's house in London. Why was I
on all fours - oh yes, I was chasing my baby grandson, we had such a
great time that he was sick through laughing and I had to change his
nappy, plus his best, and all his outer clothes because Granny didn't
realise he needed changing (bunged up nose) - oh, the mess, almost right
up to his neck - when my daughter returned she sternly rebuked me for
causing extra washing!! Cheek.

Your posting made me smile and I have got a mental vision of you - do
you wear gold slippers by any chance?
--
Judith Lea

Sacha 15-12-2005 10:25 AM

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On 15/12/05 9:43, in article , "Judith
Lea" wrote:

In article , madgardener
writes
hope this doesn't offend you, as it was never my intention. and I'll be
posting more gardening essays and rambling bits of horticultural escapades
in the future. and yes, I am a bit wordy. it's always been my nature. I
talk like I write, and visa versa. Have a great hump day and week sugar.


Keep on posting; I was feeling rather tired as a result of crawling
around the floor yesterday at my daughter's house in London. Why was I
on all fours - oh yes, I was chasing my baby grandson, we had such a
great time that he was sick through laughing and I had to change his
nappy, plus his best, and all his outer clothes because Granny didn't
realise he needed changing (bunged up nose) - oh, the mess, almost right
up to his neck - when my daughter returned she sternly rebuked me for
causing extra washing!! Cheek.

Your posting made me smile and I have got a mental vision of you - do
you wear gold slippers by any chance?


You think this group needs MORE 'gold slipper women'? I bet Maddie doesn't
have your adventures with a chamber pot, either! ;-)))
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Judith Lea 15-12-2005 11:02 AM

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In article , Sacha
writes

You think this group needs MORE 'gold slipper women'? I bet Maddie doesn't
have your adventures with a chamber pot, either! ;-)))


Nuff said

--
Judith Lea

PammyT 15-12-2005 12:51 PM

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...

Her location in America was clear to you in the sig of her post ,
which you replied to.


I never bother reading sig's.



La puce 15-12-2005 03:31 PM

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madgardener wrote:
.............if you squint really hard
and try and focus when hummingbirds and butterflies are flitting about, you
might catch sight of a smaller flower fairy riding them and laughing their
faces off. My proof that mine are around here in my holler is that they
keep moving my bulbs!


Ha! My proof that mine are around here in my damp dark green garden is
that they keep jumping from the fence onto the cars parked in the
street and start the alarms ringing! But seriously ... I know they
there when one of my cats comes in flying through the cat door, then I
know it's being chased see, by a great big fat fairy with a poking
stick.

think Must get an helmet for that cat. S'gonna go crazy throwing
itself at the cat door like that.


La puce 15-12-2005 04:33 PM

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
Well, lets see; do UK gardeners mention hearing wild turkeys in the
garden?


Yes. In some Scottish brewery they do. They're better than dogs
apparently :o)


madgardener 15-12-2005 05:36 PM

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by the way, Janet.......I got this from Pammy T this morning:(see cut and
pasted response) now isn't THAT a nice response? apparently I DID step on
her tit......................
maddie


----- Original Message -----
From: "madgardener"
Janet thought it would be nice if I cross posted a
piece I'd written about planting bulbs

Oh so *that's* why she got so defensive.

I'll be
posting more gardening essays and rambling bits of horticultural escapades
in the future.


No problem. I won't be able to read them. Not interested in anything
American.



"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message . com
from "La puce" contains these words:


Janet Baraclough wrote:
Well, lets see; do UK gardeners mention hearing wild turkeys in
the
garden?


Yes. In some Scottish brewery they do. They're better than dogs
apparently :o)


There are no wild turkeys in the UK. Do stop Puking misinformation
onto this group.

A Scottish distillery, not a brewery, keeps domesticated geese, not
wild turkeys, as an audio alarm.

Janet




Sacha 15-12-2005 05:39 PM

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On 15/12/05 17:36, in article , "madgardener"
wrote:

by the way, Janet.......I got this from Pammy T this morning:(see cut and
pasted response) now isn't THAT a nice response? apparently I DID step on
her tit......................


Oh, I'm going to adopt *that* expression! Especially for hose with 'man
breasts'!


----- Original Message -----
From: "madgardener"
Janet thought it would be nice if I cross posted a
piece I'd written about planting bulbs

Oh so *that's* why she got so defensive.

I'll be
posting more gardening essays and rambling bits of horticultural escapades
in the future.


No problem. I won't be able to read them. Not interested in anything
American.

Not typical of this group, I'm happy to say. I leave you with the thought
that to the boring all things are uninteresting.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Kay Easton 15-12-2005 09:32 PM

Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon (this is rather long, so be warned.....it's been awhile)
 
In message , madgardener
writes
I'll be
posting more gardening essays and rambling bits of horticultural escapades
in the future.


Maddie, you are very welcome here. It's a newsgroup for discussion on
gardening in the UK, and anything your write which is relevant to
gardening in the UK will be welcome.
--
Kay

madgardener 16-12-2005 04:27 PM

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"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 15/12/05 17:36, in article , "madgardener"
wrote:

snip

Oh, I'm going to adopt *that* expression! Especially for those with 'man
breasts'!


snarky remarks prunned and whacked thoroughly

Not typical of this group, I'm happy to say. I leave you with the thought
that to the boring all things are uninteresting.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


great thoughts Sacha! Who says middle aged, post menopausal women can't
learn anything? gbseg :) my power surges keep me warm on a summer's
evening..............the ice storm missed us here, slipped eastwards past me
here on the ridge but bestowed glorious rains that watered my many bulbs
that are sleeping and getting ready to surprise and wow me. I never remember
where they all are, so it's always new surprises. That, and I tend to
immediately forget where I plant them. Must be the fairies muddling my head
up on purpose!

The little minx of a female kitten has moved over on top of the box of
Christmas cards just off the side of my piled up desk where the computer is,
instead of terrorizing me and the keyboards like she did last night (and
going after the mouse arrow on the monitor, blocking the screen enough I
couldn't write well.......) and hasn't discovered the sunny spot in front of
the window yet that is crammed full of window hangers and crystals and such.
is there somewhere I can post pictures to share? I don't want to be chewed
for attaching a jpg that would take a bit to download.......been chewed up
and spit out too much on wreck.gardens for slipping up and doing that in the
past.

But I do LOVE to share the pictures I take, as I love to get up in the face
of flowers and things. (my favorites are the pictures of sleeping bumble
bees on the flowers who just get tired at dusk and decide to sleep over on
the flower, beds, that I discover all chilled down, covered in dew, and
sleepy enough that I can pet their little fuzzy backs gently and rouse them
come next morning. They bend their legs back as if to push me off so they
can sleep a few minutes longer to warm in the sunshine and dry the dew off
their fuzz. I pet bumblies all the time around here..........)
maddie




Sacha 16-12-2005 07:10 PM

Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon (this isratherlong, so be warned.....it's been awhile)
 
On 16/12/05 4:27 pm, in article , "madgardener"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 15/12/05 17:36, in article , "madgardener"
wrote:

snip

Oh, I'm going to adopt *that* expression! Especially for those with 'man
breasts'!


snarky remarks prunned and whacked thoroughly

Not typical of this group, I'm happy to say. I leave you with the thought
that to the boring all things are uninteresting.
--


great thoughts Sacha! Who says middle aged, post menopausal women can't
learn anything? gbseg :)

snip

Makes me think of that line in Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop
Café. "older, richer, more insurance". ;-) (Just to get us back to
horticulture, of course!)

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Sue 16-12-2005 07:27 PM

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote
Sorry, M, this group is very strictly text only. Lots of UK posters
are on dial-up connections, paying for every call. Virtually every UK
isp would strip out your post from their newsfeed. It's an even bigger
no-no here than on rec.gardens.


As a by the bye, none of madgardener's posts are showing up on my isp's
server. I only realised when replies appeared, and I see someone else has
noticed the same. The posts -do- appear via readfreenews though. I asked my
ISP about missing articles but so far they claim it's either my newsreader
settings (it isn't) or that the posts must be filtered because of spam or a
virus (can't see why they would be).

--
Sue



Sue 17-12-2005 05:57 PM

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote
from "Sue"
As a by the bye, none of madgardener's posts are showing up on my isp's
server. I only realised when replies appeared, and I see someone else
has noticed the same. The posts -do- appear via readfreenews though. I
asked my ISP about missing articles but so far they claim it's either my
newsreader settings (it isn't) or that the posts must be filtered
because of spam or a virus (can't see why they would be).


Is your newsreader set to reject posts which are more than a certain
number of lines long? M's are usually long.


No, it's not that, even her shorties were missing. I found I could see them
all if I d/l the group via the freebie readfreenews server. All I can think
is that Plusnet's server is excluding them, or otherwise not picking them
up for some reason. They plead ignorance but I've asked them to look into
it because it's annoying having to crosscheck servers just in case.

--
Sue




madgardener 17-12-2005 07:22 PM

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...

Sorry, M, this group is very strictly text only. Lots of UK posters
are on dial-up connections, paying for every call. Virtually every UK
isp would strip out your post from their newsfeed. It's an even bigger
no-no here than on rec.gardens.

Janet

which explains why you didn't get the picture I sent to you of the corydalis
that is blooming at the absolute wrong time of the
year..............................
maddie



madgardener 17-12-2005 07:25 PM

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"Sue" wrote in message
...

"Janet Baraclough" wrote
from "Sue"
As a by the bye, none of madgardener's posts are showing up on my isp's
server. I only realised when replies appeared, and I see someone else
has noticed the same. The posts -do- appear via readfreenews though. I
asked my ISP about missing articles but so far they claim it's either my
newsreader settings (it isn't) or that the posts must be filtered
because of spam or a virus (can't see why they would be).


Is your newsreader set to reject posts which are more than a certain
number of lines long? M's are usually long.


No, it's not that, even her shorties were missing. I found I could see
them
all if I d/l the group via the freebie readfreenews server. All I can
think
is that Plusnet's server is excluding them, or otherwise not picking them
up for some reason. They plead ignorance but I've asked them to look into
it because it's annoying having to crosscheck servers just in case.

--
Sue

I appreciate your persistance in hunting down me posts, Sue. I have every
type of filter and spam and virus protection there can possibly be. So I
know I'm clean......plus Microsoft regularly binds up my files with
"updates" so I'll be further protected. Of course, I don't even know if
you'll be able to see THIS! sigh.....
maddie






madgardener 17-12-2005 07:29 PM

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Makes me think of that line in Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop
Café. "older, richer, more insurance". ;-) (Just to get us back to
horticulture, of course!)

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

one of my favorite books AND movies......LOVE Fannie Flagg. She has a new
book, by the way. And another one, is (despite it being a bit weepy) is
Steel Magnolia's and Driving Miss Daisy. That that doesn't kill us only
serves to make us stronger. I figured out the twist early in Fried Green
Tomato's (and then bought the book) because I knew how people did things in
the South. And yes, I DO make bodacious fried green tomato's. there is an
ART to making them properly.
maddie




Sacha 17-12-2005 10:48 PM

OT in a big way so switch off if it bothers you: (was Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon)
 
On 17/12/05 19:29, in article , "madgardener"
wrote:

Makes me think of that line in Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop
Café. "older, richer, more insurance". ;-) (Just to get us back to
horticulture, of course!)


one of my favorite books AND movies......LOVE Fannie Flagg. She has a new
book, by the way. And another one, is (despite it being a bit weepy) is
Steel Magnolia's and Driving Miss Daisy. That that doesn't kill us only
serves to make us stronger. I figured out the twist early in Fried Green
Tomato's (and then bought the book) because I knew how people did things in
the South. And yes, I DO make bodacious fried green tomato's. there is an
ART to making them properly.


I don't think fried green tomatoes are a big 'thing' in UK but maybe they
should be, given how many of our tomatoes don't ripen in our
not-great-summers. But Driving Miss Daisy and Steel Magnolias are among my
all time favourite films, along with Cinema Paradiso and Il Postino and
Baghdad Café.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


madgardener 18-12-2005 06:59 AM

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Yes I did thanks; you sent it to my email address, not the newsgroup.

Janet


sorry, brain fart............
maddie



madgardener 18-12-2005 07:06 AM

OT in a big way so switch off if it bothers you: (was Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon)
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 17/12/05 19:29, in article , "madgardener"
I don't think fried green tomatoes are a big 'thing' in UK but maybe they
should be, given how many of our tomatoes don't ripen in our
not-great-summers.

To do that would require a good cornmeal and some all purpose flour....and
they can't be TOO green.

But Driving Miss Daisy and Steel Magnolias are among my
all time favourite films, along with Cinema Paradiso and Il Postino and
Baghdad Café.


Haven't seen Cinema Paradiso I believe, and Il Postino, but have seen
Baghdad Cafe', that was interesting. one of my off the wall movies I adore
is Saving Grace..........it cracks me up. I need to laugh g there are too
many movies I really like now to list. it's one of the things we indulge
in, or maybe it's distraction from things that should concern me. but I
appreciate good acting and a good plot and nice details.

ouch, the kitten decided to attack my braid and she dug into my shoulder and
upper left arm, gotta go put some alcohol and neosporin on it before it trys
to get cat scratch fever.

E-mail me sometime and clue me in on what you garden and where. I'm always
facinated. off to disinfect meself!
maddie

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)




Alan Holmes 18-12-2005 08:47 PM

OT in a big way so switch off if it bothers you: (was Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon)
 

"madgardener" wrote in message
...

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 17/12/05 19:29, in article , "madgardener"
I don't think fried green tomatoes are a big 'thing' in UK but maybe they
should be, given how many of our tomatoes don't ripen in our
not-great-summers.

To do that would require a good cornmeal and some all purpose flour....and
they can't be TOO green.


But us mad englishmen have no idea what 'cornmeal' is!

Or 'all purpose flour' we have plain flour, and self raising flour.

Alan




Mike Lyle 18-12-2005 10:26 PM

OT in a big way so switch off if it bothers you: (was Planting bulbs on a late Winter's afternoon)
 
Alan Holmes wrote:
"madgardener" wrote in message

[...]
To do that would require a good cornmeal and some all purpose
flour....and they can't be TOO green.


But us mad englishmen have no idea what 'cornmeal' is!

Or 'all purpose flour' we have plain flour, and self raising flour.


There's a translation in most of the cookery books we get but don't
need. Anyhow, whichever way you slice them (or cook or pickle or
chutney the damn' things), green tomatoes are rubbish. "Hey, I've
just found this wonderful recipe for green plums!" -- no, me joko;
Archangel Gabriel, more likely, no?

--
Mike.




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