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Yields of Vegetables
Hello Mel
In article , Mel wrote: I know this question is probably a bit "how long is a piece of string" but I'm asking anyway. I'm planning the layout of my new allotment and, now that I've decided what to grow, I now want to work out how many of each plant to grow, to provide for a family of four. Obviously, how much to grow will depend on how much of each vegetable my family eats but, as a rough guide, how many pounds of sprouts will one sprout plant produce, how many pounds will one potato give, one pea plant will produce ? lbs of peas, etc. I've looked on t'internet without success, so does anyone have a list they've made, know of a book with the info, or know generally from experience? You do not seem to be getting any quantitative replies, so here goes. The ABC series of books published in the 1950's often had useful information on the INSIDE of the book sleeve. I have the one on cloche gardening, and it has a "Guide to supply a family of 5 or 6 for a year". It is too long to type into a news contribution, but it reckons :- Broad Beans - You need 22 lbs = 1 30 ft row. (1/4 pint of seed) Runner Beans - You need 75 lbs = 1 30 foot row (1/4 pint of seed) Carrots(Maincrop)- You need 56 lb = 2 30 foot rows (1/2 oz seed) and so on. John -- EurIng J Rye CEng FIEE Electrical Engineering Consultant 18 Wentworth Close Hadleigh IPSWICH IP7 5SA England Tel No 01473 827126 http://web.ukonline.co.uk/jrye/index.html --- On Line using an Acorn StrongArm RiscPC --- |
Yields of Vegetables
I know this question is probably a bit "how long is a piece of string" but
I'm asking anyway. I'm planning the layout of my new allotment and, now that I've decided what to grow, I now want to work out how many of each plant to grow, to provide for a family of four. Obviously, how much to grow will depend on how much of each vegetable my family eats but, as a rough guide, how many pounds of sprouts will one sprout plant produce, how many pounds will one potato give, one pea plant will produce ? lbs of peas, etc. I've looked on t'internet without success, so does anyone have a list they've made, know of a book with the info, or know generally from experience? Many thanks. |
Yields of Vegetables
"Mel" wrote I know this question is probably a bit "how long is a piece of string" but I'm asking anyway. I'm planning the layout of my new allotment and, now that I've decided what to grow, I now want to work out how many of each plant to grow, to provide for a family of four. Obviously, how much to grow will depend on how much of each vegetable my family eats but, as a rough guide, how many pounds of sprouts will one sprout plant produce, how many pounds will one potato give, one pea plant will produce ? lbs of peas, etc. I've looked on t'internet without success, so does anyone have a list they've made, know of a book with the info, or know generally from experience? I'm sure farmers have a guide but they use chemicals and scientific analysis of their soil etc. With an allotment there are too many variables for a definitive answer to that question... How good a grower are you? How good is your soil for that crop? What variety will you grow? What fertilizer will you use? Are you strictly "organic" or will you use chemicals as last resort? What sort of weather is it going to be this year? Can you use a hose?...... -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
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from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: Can you use a hose?...... IRTA "can you use a horse" Must get eyes tested Janet |
Yields of Vegetables
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from "Mel" contains these words: I know this question is probably a bit "how long is a piece of string" but I'm asking anyway. I'm planning the layout of my new allotment and, now that I've decided what to grow, I now want to work out how many of each plant to grow, to provide for a family of four. Obviously, how much to grow will depend on how much of each vegetable my family eats but, as a rough guide, how many pounds of sprouts will one sprout plant produce, how many pounds will one potato give, one pea plant will produce ? lbs of peas, etc. I've looked on t'internet without success, so does anyone have a list they've made, know of a book with the info, or know generally from experience? My advice would be to get a freezer if you haven't already got one, and then plant as much as possible. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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from Janet Baraclough contains these words: The message from "Bob Hobden" contains these words: Can you use a hose?...... IRTA "can you use a horse" To feed http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/...n/rhubarb0.jpg I'm about to use the horses which pass on the other side of the hedge across the road. I use the word 'pass' advisedly. Must get eyes tested Must get bucket and shovel. -- Rusty Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk Separator in search of a sig |
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:39:29 GMT, "Mel" wrote:
I know this question is probably a bit "how long is a piece of string" but I'm asking anyway. I'm planning the layout of my new allotment and, now that I've decided what to grow, I now want to work out how many of each plant to grow, to provide for a family of four. Obviously, how much to grow will depend on how much of each vegetable my family eats but, as a rough guide, how many pounds of sprouts will one sprout plant produce, how many pounds will one potato give, one pea plant will produce ? lbs of peas, etc. I've looked on t'internet without success, so does anyone have a list they've made, know of a book with the info, or know generally from experience? Many thanks. Best advice is the advice anyone with a neighbouring allotment can give you as you will be constrained by not just how prolific each crop is but whether or not you can grow it at all in your soil / latitude / prevalent wind etc. Having said that it is one of those things that most guides seem to assume is common knowledge and forget that one might in cheerful ignorance plant four carrots and four hundred courgettes. After a couple of years I'm getting a handle on how prolific what I grow is but if there was such a guide out there I would be interested. |
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JB wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:39:29 GMT, "Mel" wrote: I know this question is probably a bit "how long is a piece of string" but I'm asking anyway. I'm planning the layout of my new allotment and, now that I've decided what to grow, I now want to work out how many of each plant to grow, to provide for a family of four. [...] I've looked on t'internet without success, so does anyone have a list they've made, know of a book with the info, or know generally from experience? Many thanks. Best advice is the advice anyone with a neighbouring allotment can give you as you will be constrained by not just how prolific each crop is but whether or not you can grow it at all in your soil / latitude / prevalent wind etc. Having said that it is one of those things that most guides seem to assume is common knowledge and forget that one might in cheerful ignorance plant four carrots and four hundred courgettes. After a couple of years I'm getting a handle on how prolific what I grow is but if there was such a guide out there I would be interested. ISTR that at least one of Lawrence D. Hills's books mentions expected yields (sorry: they're in boxes). Back in about 1974ish, Gardening Which? published a plan for a veg plot with figures for average yields: some compulsive hoarder must still have that issue. Joy Larkcom's very good _Vegetables For Small Gardens_ has a detailed chapter on planning, with special reference to the needs of a family, but doesn't actually predict yields. For some people, the book may seem like too much information in too concentrated a form, but those who like that kind of thing will find it's the kind of thing that they like. I reckon it's as good a starting-point as any. -- Mike. |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:29:10 -0000, "Mike Lyle"
wrote: Joy Larkcom's very good _Vegetables For Small Gardens_ has a detailed chapter on planning, with special reference to the needs of a family, but doesn't actually predict yields. For some people, the book may seem like too much information in too concentrated a form, but those who like that kind of thing will find it's the kind of thing that they like. I reckon it's as good a starting-point as any. Unfortunately that seems to be pretty unavailable. What is available is "Grow your own vegetables" by Joy Larkcom which, judging by the reviews on Amazon, seems to be well received. Does anyone know if that covers the same material? |
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I have a book Your Kitchen Garden by George Seddon & Helena Radecka
isbn 0855337850 (which I got when I got my first allotment- lotty £5, book £10.95 in 1990), it is half gardening, half cook book, and for veg I find it invaluable. There is a table quoting figures from the National Society of Leisure Gardeners (renamed the Nationall Allotment and Garden Society) of what a person with an elementary knowledge of gardening can expect from a plot measuring 300 square yard (250sq m) after a couple of years experience. The book then goes on to say how much seed you need, which I have added to the table. As far as yield goes, I'll leave the maths to you Mel! Here's the detail Carrots 28lb Sow March to July, ready 5 1/2 months; 1/2oz of seed sows 50 ft. Yield upwards of 3lb from 10ft row, picked young or 8lb if left as a main crop. Spacing 4in for intermediate, long roots need more space Parsnips 75lb Sow February to April; ready in 7 1/2 months; 1oz of seed sows 50 feet. Yield 10lb from 10 feet Spacing 8in Beet 86lb Sow March to June; ready in 2 months; 4 months for main crop. 1oz seed will sow 50ft Yield 10lb from 10 feet Spacing 4-8in depending on type Lettuce 280 heads Sow March to July; ready in 2 months; 1/2 oz of seed provides 2000 plants Yield 12 lettuces from 10 feet Radish 24 bunches Sow March to August; ready in 1 1/2 months. 1oz of seed will sow 30feet Yield 3lb from 10 feet Broad bean 24 lb Sow February to April, July and November; ready from 3 1/2 months; 1/2 pint of seed sows 30ft. Yield 25lb from 10 feet Spacing 5in apart Peas 45lb Sow March to June; ready from 3 1/2 months; 1 pint of seed sows 50feet Yield 10lb from 10 feet Spacing 2in apart in rows 4in apart Cabbage 66 heads Sow March to July, planting out about 2 months after sowing; Ready in 4 1/2 months. 1 oz seed produces 2000 plants. Yield 16lb from 10 feet; Spacing 24 in apart Spring cabbage 108 heads Spring cabbage 8lb from 10 feet Spacing 18in apart Brussels Sprouts 35lb Sow March, April; plant May, June; Ready from 6 months; 1oz of seed produces more than 1500 plants Yield 8lb of sprouts from 10 feet ( So with a spacing of 36ins, thats 7 plants to 10ft row - 1lb of sprouts from 1 plant seems low, but then again I just eat them, don't weigh em) Turnips 29lb Sow February to July; ready from 2 1/2 months; 1/2 oz of seed sows 60 feet Yield 7lb from 10 feet spacing 6in apart Runner Beans 61lb Sow May, June, ready in 4 months; 1/2pt seed sows 30ft Yield 35lb from 10ft Spacing 6in Dwarf beans 19lb Sow April to June; ready from 3 months; 1/4pt seed sows 30 feet. Yield 8lb from 10ft Spacing 10 in Savouys 66 heads Sow April, May, plant out July, August Spacing 24in apart Marrows 24 Onions 192lb from seed - sow March, April; Ready in 6 1/2 months; 1/2 oz sows 50ft Yield 8lb from 10ft Spacing 4-6in Spring onions (thinnings) 20 bunches Parsley as required Potatoes early 84lb main crop 410lb Plant late feb to May; ready from 3 1/2 months; 7lb seed potaoes plant 60ft Yield 10lb from 10ft earlies, 15lb from 10ft for main crop Spacing 24in earlies, 30in main crop Leeks 96 Sow March, April; plant June; ready 6 months; 1/2oz of seed provides plants for 60ft Yield 10lb from 10ft spacing 6in Broccoli 130 heads Sow April; plant May, June; ready from 6 months. 1oz seed produces more than 1500 plants Yield 10lb from 10ft Spacing 20-24in Celery 48 heads Sow February to April in the greenhousae, plant June; ready from 7 months. There are around 50,000 seeds in 1oz Yield 12lb from 10ft Swedes 44lb Sow May, Jun; ready from 5 months. 1/2 oz seed sows 60ft Yield 10lb from 10ft spacing 8in Tomatoes 120 lb For outdoor toms. Sow Feb, March in greenhouse; Plant May,June; ready 5 months; 1/2 oz seed could produce 1000 plants. Yield 4lb per plant Gooseberries 18lb Rhubarb 7lb Cucumber (frame) 20 The book mentions that a garden measuring 400 sq yards can meet most of the vegetable requirements of a family of four A standard alotment of 300sq yards will take at least 150 hours to cultivate; a 400sq yard plot which includes potatoes would add more than 50 hours Clifford Doncaster, South Yorkshire |
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"jay jay" wrote ((snip)) One bit of advice I would give (from experience!) don't try and grow everything you ever want to eat in your first year - less is more! And only grow what you and your family will eat. Obvious I know, but I've seen new veg gardeners plant all sorts of things only for them to end up on the compost heap because no-one in the family would eat them, or in one case, knew how to cook them. Start with the usual suspects first and then widen your scope but ensure the cook in the family knows whats coming. You also need to understand that the veg will often contain meat, is the cook in the household prepared for that? I've heard of one case where they rejected all future allotment produce because of one slug in a cabbage. Crazy I know, but true. -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
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Other advise I've seen is grow what is not so readily available in the
shops or is expensive but of course stuff you actually eat. I.e. if you eat a lot of onions , most meals use an onion then are you likely to be able grow enough for your use ? Would you better off using the space for things you can grow enough of or taste better home grown. I did find that the River cottage website had some good info and links to local organic producers etc. There is also the possibilty of growing to sell and going to farmers markets etc I'm not an expert , still waiting to get an allotment plot , probably won't get one in time for this year (unless someone croaks it !!) but it seems sensible |
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Gardening_Convert wrote: There is also the possibilty of growing to sell and going to farmers markets etc Tut tut... you're not allowed to do that anymore I'm afarid. Unless the soil has been tested and certified by a white coat I'd imagine, green would be more approapriate don't you think ..., err... certified that it's not polluted and safe to produce and sell to eat vegetables. And flowers ... nobody mentioned flowers. Mel, grow some flowers too luv! |
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"cliff_the_gardener" wrote
I have a book Your Kitchen Garden by George Seddon & Helena Radecka There is a table quoting figures from the National Society of Leisure Gardeners (renamed the Nationall Allotment and Garden Society) of what Many thanks to everyone who answered my query regarding vegetable yields, but a particular massive thanks to Cliff for taking time and effort to type out the list of veggies/yields. I have the book that you mention, Cliff, but I can't find the list of yields (what page is it on?). Once again, huge thanks to everyone. Regards, Mel |
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