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Lettuce Pray 18-01-2006 07:29 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 
This year I would like to grow some flowers amongst my veggies with two
aims in mind. I want the garden to have more colour and I would like to
attract insects that will prey on my garden pests ( at least a little).
I know nothing about what I should grow, but I will give you details of
where I am and what type of veggies I intend to grow.
I am in SE Scotland in a walled garden that has a good depth of free
draining soil. I will be growing potatoes, lettuce, cabbage, carrots,
spring onions, beans, peas, spinach, rasps, strawbs, plums, apples.
Also tomatoes and chillies in the greenhouse, along with basil.
Any suggestions as to what flowers I should grow, where in the garden,
when sown etc would be very happily received. The easier to grow and
the less attention they need the better:-)
Thanks
Jonny


Martin Brown 18-01-2006 10:29 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 
Lettuce Pray wrote:

This year I would like to grow some flowers amongst my veggies with two
aims in mind. I want the garden to have more colour and I would like to
attract insects that will prey on my garden pests ( at least a little).


More effective to grow complementary plants that disguise the smell of
your food plants from sap suckers and pests. Certain smelly marigold
species work fairly well. Chrysanthemums are another possibility.

I know nothing about what I should grow, but I will give you details of
where I am and what type of veggies I intend to grow.
I am in SE Scotland in a walled garden that has a good depth of free
draining soil. I will be growing potatoes, lettuce, cabbage, carrots,
spring onions, beans, peas, spinach, rasps, strawbs, plums, apples.
Also tomatoes and chillies in the greenhouse, along with basil.


In a greenhouse yellow cards coated in cycle grease are not bad.

Any suggestions as to what flowers I should grow, where in the garden,
when sown etc would be very happily received. The easier to grow and
the less attention they need the better:-)


Be careful what you wish for - if they are too easy to grow they are as
bad as if not worse than the weeds. eg Himalayan balsam.

Regards,
Martin Brown

La Puce 18-01-2006 11:08 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 

Lettuce Pray wrote:

This year I would like to grow some flowers amongst my veggies


(snip)

Hiya Jonny.
I know you've posted twice - I thought you were trolling ... sorry :o)

Here is a site which is a good start.
http://www.organicgardening.org.uk/factsheets/gg44.php

Also:-
Basil improves the flavour of many garden vegetables, specifically
tomatoes
and lettuce, and repels flies and mosquitoes

Borage near strawberries and tomatoes attracts bees, which help to
improve crop yield by pollinating plants

Comfrey Tap roots bring minerals to the surface of the soil.

Dill and fennel attract hoverflies, which then eat aphids. Dill grows
well
next to lettuce and cucumbers

Garlic and chives keep away aphids and black spot and planted round
fruit trees/ bushes discourage insects from climbing the trunk. Garlic
also improves the growth and health of raspberry bushes and can enhance
the production of oils in herbs Chives enhance the flavour and growth
of tomatoes, carrots, apples, berries and grapes.

Marjoram and oregano are helpful to all vegetables

Rosemary benefits beans and carrots.

Sage amongst the brassica family, particularly cabbages repels cabbage
white butterfly. Sage also benefits carrots, peas, beans but does not
like cucumbers. Sage provides cover for frogs and toads that eat snails
and slugs.

Summer savoury deters black fly.

Tagetes (like Martin mentioned) (African & French marigolds) Excellent
on your plot. Deters aphids and whitefly through scent and by
attracting hoverflies. Mexican marigolds (Tagetes Minuta), stops ground
elder All marigold roots secrete chemicals, which help stop bindweed.
The roots also stop eelworm from recognising their host plants, which
include potatoes.

Valerian amongst your veg stimulates earthworms, which helps to boost
plant growth.

Wormwood, hyssop and rue on your plot borders act as insect deterrents.


Also you should check out how to make organic fertilisers, beside OM,
out of plants. And there's many vegs that do not like each others.
Like, garlic is bad with cabbages, peas and beans. Carrots don't like
to be next to beetroot. Strawberries don't like to be next to cabbages.
Beans don't like to be next to garlic, oignons, shallots. Salades don't
like to be next to celery and parsley and tomatoes don't like to be
next to cucumbers, gurkins, potatoes, peas and beans. Phew ... Good
luck!


Sacha 18-01-2006 11:24 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 
On 18/1/06 23:08, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:


Lettuce Pray wrote:

This year I would like to grow some flowers amongst my veggies


(snip)

Hiya Jonny.
I know you've posted twice - I thought you were trolling ... sorry :o)

Here is a site which is a good start.
http://www.organicgardening.org.uk/factsheets/gg44.php

Also:-
Basil improves the flavour of many garden vegetables, specifically
tomatoes
and lettuce, and repels flies and mosquitoes

Borage near strawberries and tomatoes attracts bees, which help to
improve crop yield by pollinating plants


That comes from: http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm

Comfrey Tap roots bring minerals to the surface of the soil.


And: http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm

Dill and fennel attract hoverflies, which then eat aphids. Dill grows
well
next to lettuce and cucumbers


Goodness gracious me. Imagine, so does this:
http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm


Garlic and chives keep away aphids and black spot and planted round
fruit trees/ bushes discourage insects from climbing the trunk. Garlic
also improves the growth and health of raspberry bushes and can enhance
the production of oils in herbs Chives enhance the flavour and growth
of tomatoes, carrots, apples, berries and grapes.


And whoop de doo here it is again:
http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm
snip

So, you fraud, would you like to tell us how all this worked for you when
you tried it out? I have found the web site from which you have filched
this material but to which you make no attribution. Why do you do that?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


La Puce 18-01-2006 11:33 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 

Sacha wrote:

That comes from: http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm


These are from my teacher's handouts from college (digging a pit on
saturday and it's going to pour apparently). Do you have something to
add to organic fertiliser, or are you going to once again mock me about
my garlic (balanced on a monitor - very funny indeed), rhubbarb mix and
bordeaux brew etc? Because if you don't beleive in companion planting
and insect attractant plants, just take a tour around any lotties and
just ask. But I forgot ... you don't grow vegs but sell potted plants
in a garden centre and serves teacakes. Silly me! put tongue out


Rupert 18-01-2006 11:52 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 18/1/06 23:08, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:


Lettuce Pray wrote:

This year I would like to grow some flowers amongst my veggies


(snip)

Hiya Jonny.
I know you've posted twice - I thought you were trolling ... sorry :o)

Here is a site which is a good start.
http://www.organicgardening.org.uk/factsheets/gg44.php

Also:-
Basil improves the flavour of many garden vegetables, specifically
tomatoes
and lettuce, and repels flies and mosquitoes

Borage near strawberries and tomatoes attracts bees, which help to
improve crop yield by pollinating plants


That comes from: http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm

Comfrey Tap roots bring minerals to the surface of the soil.


And: http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm

Dill and fennel attract hoverflies, which then eat aphids. Dill grows
well
next to lettuce and cucumbers


Goodness gracious me. Imagine, so does this:
http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm


Garlic and chives keep away aphids and black spot and planted round
fruit trees/ bushes discourage insects from climbing the trunk. Garlic
also improves the growth and health of raspberry bushes and can enhance
the production of oils in herbs Chives enhance the flavour and growth
of tomatoes, carrots, apples, berries and grapes.


And whoop de doo here it is again:
http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm
snip

So, you fraud, would you like to tell us how all this worked for you when
you tried it out? I have found the web site from which you have filched
this material but to which you make no attribution. Why do you do that?

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Totally unfair criticism. The words "Tagetes (like Martin mentioned)" is
nearly totally her own work probably---perhaps--maybe :-)



La Puce 19-01-2006 12:01 AM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 

Rupert wrote:

Totally unfair criticism. The words "Tagetes (like Martin mentioned)" is
nearly totally her own work probably---perhaps--maybe :-)


LOL! What about the rest and my companion planting! Honestly. Poor
Lettuce Pray. I thought he was a troll at first. What is this Sacha
like?! Just read her questions: "I can't remember the colour of the
blue flower I saw when I met the Prime Minister of Trululupa with Ray
and John and Mike and Paul". "Ho thank you, off course it's blue, I had
forgotten!"

My Dog! Why can't she just go on a cruise with the other loon!!


Rupert 19-01-2006 12:18 AM

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"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com...

Rupert wrote:

Totally unfair criticism. The words "Tagetes (like Martin mentioned)"
is
nearly totally her own work probably---perhaps--maybe :-)


LOL! What about the rest and my companion planting! Honestly. Poor
Lettuce Pray. I thought he was a troll at first. What is this Sacha
like?! Just read her questions: "I can't remember the colour of the
blue flower I saw when I met the Prime Minister of Trululupa with Ray
and John and Mike and Paul". "Ho thank you, off course it's blue, I had
forgotten!"

My Dog! Why can't she just go on a cruise with the other loon!!


"The other loon"--Mike is already on a cruise (supposedley)




Rupert 19-01-2006 12:38 AM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 

"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com...

Sacha wrote:

That comes from: http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm


These are from my teacher's handouts from college (digging a pit)

-Snip-

You should not spread myths even if they come from your teachers.
"Comfrey Tap roots bring minerals to the surface of the soil"

Do they mean the roots dig deep and extract minerals which are then
available in the leaves?




La Puce 19-01-2006 11:20 AM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 

Rupert wrote:
You should not spread myths even if they come from your teachers.


And you should watch out Don because my patience with you will
eventually have it's limit and I just might turn around and bite your
lil' ass.

Now if you have something to say about Sacha I suggest you say it to
her once and for all and not email me about it. I have had more than
enough of this hypocrisy.

Second, if you think what I say are myth, I suggest you take on a
course and learn instead of wandering around usenet pretending to know
just about everything.

And third, just stop following me about after her. It now starts to
look a bit strange.

Warning: don't do usenet and drink :o)


Rupert 19-01-2006 01:05 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 

"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com...

Rupert wrote:
You should not spread myths even if they come from your teachers.


And you should watch out Don because my patience with you will
eventually have it's limit and I just might turn around and bite your
lil' ass.

Now if you have something to say about Sacha I suggest you say it to
her once and for all and not email me about it. I have had more than
enough of this hypocrisy.

Second, if you think what I say are myth, I suggest you take on a
course and learn instead of wandering around usenet pretending to know
just about everything.

And third, just stop following me about after her. It now starts to
look a bit strange.

Warning: don't do usenet and drink :o)


Mission accomplished



Janet Baraclough 19-01-2006 01:15 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 
The message k
from Sacha contains these words:

So, you fraud, would you like to tell us how all this worked for you when
you tried it out? I have found the web site from which you have filched
this material but to which you make no attribution. Why do you do that?


Force of habit..like pretending (too late) that the exact same
material came from her employer/work colleagues/ tutor. Or pretending to
be a cute little inexperienced girl, (aged well over 40, grey and tired,
with kids aged 8 to 15).

Janet

La Puce 19-01-2006 03:02 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 

Janet Baraclough wrote:

Force of habit..like pretending (too late) that the exact same
material came from her employer


I don't have an employer and am the employer.

/work colleagues

In that context it was for our Morecambe competition, which we didn't
get btw. Urban splash decided on someone else with less environmental
understanding and concerns, sadly.

/ tutor.

Yes, my tutor Kath from the RHS course I am currently doing in
Northenden Manchester City College. Her handouts are so numerous I need
a filing cabinet for them.

Or pretending to
be a cute little inexperienced girl,


That's your fantasie but perhaps your jalousy too. I certainly like you
don't wear long johns on top of my trousers. How's your tache growing?
g

(aged well over 40,

41.

grey

No, brunette long hair and entirely naturelle :o) Perhaps you are
refering to the student's questionaire. I said 'grey' as my skin being
grey. At least that's what my family says. Usually I'm quite dark but
years in the UK has turned me greyish skin looking :o(

and tired,

Yes. Ho yes. Too much to do, too little time.

with kids aged 8 to 15).


No. A boy of 11 in 2 months (we will be in Cannes for it) and a boy of
16 in May (we will be in Bordeaux for it).

But Janet let me be now, honesty leave me alone or you are going to
regret it.


Sacha 19-01-2006 03:07 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 
On 18/1/06 23:33, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:


Sacha wrote:

That comes from:
http://www.thecei.org.uk/Beanstalk/companion_plants.htm

These are from my teacher's handouts from college (digging a pit on
saturday and it's going to pour apparently). Do you have something to
add to organic fertiliser, or are you going to once again mock me about
my garlic (balanced on a monitor - very funny indeed), rhubbarb mix and
bordeaux brew etc? Because if you don't beleive in companion planting
and insect attractant plants, just take a tour around any lotties and
just ask. But I forgot ... you don't grow vegs but sell potted plants
in a garden centre and serves teacakes. Silly me! put tongue out


If you're going to take material directly from someone else's work it's
considered polite to put quotes round it and make it clear what you're
doing. Which is probably why you never do so.
As to your belief in companion planting etc., it is I who recommended 'Roses
Love Garlic' to a poster here as a book they would find useful, so yet again
you are both wrong and unobservant.
As you have not visited our nursery and would be rather bemused by what you
find here - there seem to be so *many* plants you've never heard of - I'm
afraid your opinion of my activities is as ignorant as the rest of your
persona. One thing I can guarantee though, you will never be as successful
in horticulture as my husband is and your jealousy is showing.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


La Puce 19-01-2006 04:51 PM

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Sacha wrote:
If you're going to take material directly from someone else's work it's
considered polite to put quotes round it and make it clear what you're
doing. Which is probably why you never do so.


Do you know what time it was when I wrote last night?! Do you know that
I have a life, a lot of homework, a demanding full time job, kids, pets
etc. I am passionate about it all, but for the love of god JUST LEAVE
ME ALONE the PAIR OF YOU! Is it because I'm French I'm getting this?
Tell me, have you got a problem with foreeneers?

And no SACHA, YOU HAVEN''T INVENTED GARLIC! And I don't give a fig
about your husband! Why should I do?! What on earth are you on? Just go
away. Yes?


Alan Holmes 19-01-2006 05:07 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 

"Rupert" wrote in message
...

"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com...

Rupert wrote:
You should not spread myths even if they come from your teachers.


And you should watch out Don because my patience with you will
eventually have it's limit and I just might turn around and bite your
lil' ass.


!PLONK!



Janet Baraclough 19-01-2006 05:23 PM

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The message .com
from "La Puce" contains these words:


But Janet let me be now, honesty leave me alone or you are going to
regret it.


It's unacceptable to threaten other usenet posters. Do ask someone to
explain your service provider's AUP.

Janet

Sacha 19-01-2006 05:38 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 
On 19/1/06 16:51, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:


Sacha wrote:
If you're going to take material directly from someone else's work it's
considered polite to put quotes round it and make it clear what you're
doing. Which is probably why you never do so.


Do you know what time it was when I wrote last night?! Do you know that
I have a life, a lot of homework, a demanding full time job, kids, pets
etc. I am passionate about it all, but for the love of god JUST LEAVE
ME ALONE the PAIR OF YOU! Is it because I'm French I'm getting this?
Tell me, have you got a problem with foreeneers?


You're getting pulled up on bad behaviour and poor information because you
dish it out. You've just given someone rubbishy 'information' on how to
grow beans, for example, as Kay remarked. To suggest that it's because you
are French is simply ridiculous. As it is, I have two nieces who are
half-French and whose mother comes from Bordeaux where her stepfather owns a
rather wonderful wine chateau. I have French friends who live in St Malo
who will be visiting us later this month and I have been the guest at the
wedding of the son of one of them and a house guest of the other. I have a
standing invitation to stay at the St Malo and St Briac houses one couple
owns and to sail with them whenever the opportunity may arise. I started
learning French at the age of four in my Jersey school and I keep a French
dictionary by my bedside so as to refresh my memory from time to time. So
you're on a hiding to nothing trying to make me out to be a Francophobe.
And if you had been around this group long enough to learn anything about
its members, you would know that I am one of the first to welcome foreigners
who happen upon this group when, perhaps, others think their posts out of
place.

And no SACHA, YOU HAVEN''T INVENTED GARLIC! And I don't give a fig
about your husband! Why should I do?! What on earth are you on? Just go
away. Yes?

And again, you are obtuse in your answers as well as mendacious. I don't
recall claiming to have invented garlic and you repeatedly drag my husband
and his business (which is not mine and from which I derive no income,
having my own) into your playground attempts to insult me. As I said - this
is undoubtedly because you are jealous but it is particularly juvenile of
you. It is wrong of you to pass off the work or research of others as if it
were your own and to give advice on methods which you do not admit to not
having experienced for yourself. It is totally misleading to those asking
for help because you give the erroneous impression in your posts of knowing
what you're talking about, instead of explaining that you've simply recycled
someone else's work and have no personal experience in depth, of what you're
advising them on. Nobody else behaves like this on here - all of us give
attributions to the work of others - I even say when the advice I'm passing
on comes from my husband and not from me because I think it honest to do so!
And the rest of us pass on information we have read but not experienced,
with that caveat. It's the proper thing to do and it's the most honest way
to help others with their queries. I suggest you might try it.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)



Rupert 19-01-2006 08:25 PM

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"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com...

Snip


RHS course I am currently doing in
Northenden Manchester City College.


Well that says it all. You must remember that some of the contributors to
this group have qualifications that far exceed those of RHS (2) which is the
equivalent to GCSE/NVQ (NVQ= Not very qualified).
When and if you pass this exam you have permission to post your own thoughts
but beware of plagiarism.
You do not, however, have the rights to slag off and threaten other posters
who take you to task about your lack of knowledge .



Lettuce Pray 19-01-2006 08:34 PM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 
Thanks for the advice. Sorry to have started a war or re-opened old
wounds:-)
Jonny


Sacha 19-01-2006 10:10 PM

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On 19/1/06 20:25, in article , "Rupert"
wrote:


"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com...

Snip


RHS course I am currently doing in
Northenden Manchester City College.


Well that says it all. You must remember that some of the contributors to
this group have qualifications that far exceed those of RHS (2) which is the
equivalent to GCSE/NVQ (NVQ= Not very qualified).
When and if you pass this exam you have permission to post your own thoughts
but beware of plagiarism.
You do not, however, have the rights to slag off and threaten other posters
who take you to task about your lack of knowledge .


With respect, lack of knowledge isn't a problem with regard to posting here,
and I've never seen it held against anyone. But a pretence of knowledge
which misleads others is, IMO. And boasting about as yet un-won RHS qualis
is just silly, given both the experience and the qualis of some people here.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


La Puce 20-01-2006 11:09 AM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 

Rupert wrote:
Well that says it all. You must remember that some of the contributors to
this group have qualifications that far exceed those of RHS (2) which is the
equivalent to GCSE/NVQ (NVQ= Not very qualified).
When and if you pass this exam you have permission to post your own thoughts
but beware of plagiarism.
You do not, however, have the rights to slag off and threaten other posters
who take you to task about your lack of knowledge .


I don't slag anybody but I was from day one slagged by Sacha and Janet
who are rude to the extreem. They have no qualifications either. You
have emailed me slagging of Janet and Sacha saying, and I quote "you
are telling them what many think". I don't boost about anything. They
consider me a troll and I feel I have to justify myself to them all the
time and by proving this I have to mention my course. It's tedious.
They have more experience than me, I know, but I am half their age. I
am very passionate about what I do. I work with people in organic
gardens and garden centres around my town. I grew up in the country in
the south of France. I'm not sure why these two witches are giving me
such a bad time but once again don't get involve Don.

So do give me a break and from now on I will totally ignore these two
and you as well. There, it's much easier that way.


La Puce 20-01-2006 11:13 AM

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Lettuce Pray wrote:
Thanks for the advice. Sorry to have started a war or re-opened old
wounds:-)


Don't you worry.

Let us know, when you are ready, what 'potion' you're planning to do.
And do take care about the plant you use. Some are very poisonous. The
HDRA (Henry Doubleday Research Association) is a wonderful source of
plants, ideas and organic way of living. By becoming a member you are
also providing fund to interesting research and events :o)


Sacha 20-01-2006 11:29 AM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 
On 19/1/06 20:34, in article
, "Lettuce Pray"
wrote:

Thanks for the advice. Sorry to have started a war or re-opened old
wounds:-)
Jonny


Don't worry about it. What most people here are concerned about is that you
get the right advice from people who know what they're talking about.
That's why I recommend the book "Roses Love Garlic" by Louise Riotte. Of
course, there are two schools of thoughts about companion planting - those
who think it helps to attract beneficial insects which then get rid of the
nasties and those who think it attracts the nasties in the first place!
But I saw an interesting example of a sort of companion planting use in
France, down in the Lot. We were taken round a vineyard by the owners of
the gîte we were renting and at the end of each row of vines was a rosebush.
Apparently, if the rose got botrytis it showed up on its leaves before those
of the vine and gave them time to treat the vines accordingly, before any
damage was done to them.
Louise Riotte also wrote Carrots Love Tomatoes and both get good reviews on
Amazon which is selling them together for a 'knockdown' price!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Sacha 20-01-2006 11:38 AM

Flowers amongst my veggies
 
On 20/1/06 11:29, in article
, "Sacha"
wrote:

On 19/1/06 20:34, in article
, "Lettuce Pray"
wrote:

Thanks for the advice. Sorry to have started a war or re-opened old
wounds:-)
Jonny


Don't worry about it. What most people here are concerned about is that you
get the right advice from people who know what they're talking about.
That's why I recommend the book "Roses Love Garlic" by Louise Riotte. Of
course, there are two schools of thoughts about companion planting - those
who think it helps to attract beneficial insects which then get rid of the
nasties and those who think it attracts the nasties in the first place!
But I saw an interesting example of a sort of companion planting use in
France, down in the Lot. We were taken round a vineyard by the owners of
the gîte we were renting and at the end of each row of vines was a rosebush.
Apparently, if the rose got botrytis it showed up on its leaves before those
of the vine and gave them time to treat the vines accordingly, before any
damage was done to them.
Louise Riotte also wrote Carrots Love Tomatoes and both get good reviews on
Amazon which is selling them together for a 'knockdown' price!

Sorry to follow up my own post but I've just remembered books I used to have
by Maureen & Bridget Boland which might interest a few people on urg. I
can't do better than give the Amazon synopsis:
"Book Description
GARDENER¹S MAGIC AND OTHER OLD WIVES¹ LORE is the sequel to the much loved
OLD WIVES¹ LORE FOR GARDENERS. An essential companion for all gardeners,
with its practical advice and solutions for anyone interested in healing,
magic, and the ways of nature.

Among many other facts, you will discover the magical or healing properties
of certain herbs and other plants; natural ways of protecting the garden not
only against pests and other physical troubles, but against malevolent luck
as well; potions, remedies and precautions for lovers; the importance to
gardeners of the phases of the moon; protection against spells and other
evils * and with these a wealth of practical old wives¹ lore on such arcane
but vital subjects as weather forecasting by means of leeches. The book also
contains a sovereign remedy for starting a motor mower!

No one can fail to be charmed by GARDENER¹S MAGIC AND OTHER OLD WIVES¹ LORE,
a book to cheer the soul and restore the spirit of any gardener.

Synopsis
Gardener's Magic and Other Old Wives' Lore is the companion volume to the
much loved Old Wives' Lore for Gardeners. In it will be found, among much
else, the magical or healing properties of certain herbs and other plants;
natural ways of protecting the garden not only against pests and other
physical troubles and the importance to gardeners of the phases of the moon.
It is a book to warm the heart, cheer the soul and restore the spirit of any
gardener."

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)


Rupert 20-01-2006 08:07 PM

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"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com...

Rupert wrote:
Well that says it all. You must remember that some of the contributors to
this group have qualifications that far exceed those of RHS (2) which is
the
equivalent to GCSE/NVQ (NVQ= Not very qualified).
When and if you pass this exam you have permission to post your own
thoughts
but beware of plagiarism.
You do not, however, have the rights to slag off and threaten other
posters
who take you to task about your lack of knowledge .


I don't slag anybody but I was from day one slagged by Sacha and Janet
who are rude to the extreem. They have no qualifications either. You
have emailed me slagging of Janet and Sacha saying, and I quote "you
are telling them what many think". I don't boost about anything. They
consider me a troll and I feel I have to justify myself to them all the
time and by proving this I have to mention my course. It's tedious.
They have more experience than me, I know, but I am half their age. I
am very passionate about what I do. I work with people in organic
gardens and garden centres around my town. I grew up in the country in
the south of France. I'm not sure why these two witches are giving me
such a bad time but once again don't get involve Don.

So do give me a break and from now on I will totally ignore these two
and you as well. There, it's much easier that way.


But you do and have slagged off and threatened people on this newsgroup. You
object to people accusing you of plagiarism and retaliate by being vicious
and irrational. Silly school girl plots to cause trouble do not wash and
just make you look foolish.



Janet Baraclough 20-01-2006 10:31 PM

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The message .com
from "La Puce" contains these words:


I don't have an employer and am the employer.


Maybe you should instruct one of the employees to update URBED's
website, where you're listed as a Personal Secretary.

Janet



La Puce 20-01-2006 11:02 PM

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Janet Baraclough wrote:

Maybe you should instruct one of the employees to update URBED's
website, where you're listed as a Personal Secretary.


LOL! Yes, I'm my husband's PA, the office manager, the account dept,
the publicity, the personnel officer ... and you've omitted to mention
all the other responsibilities that I have, including the website. We
built our organisation 11 years ago together from our attic. From 2
staff, we are now 16. We must be doing something right don't you think.
The website doesn't give you anything else I'm affraid because we are
all equals and in two months time we will become a cooperative, even
better.

I must go to bed now, I'm planting trees tomorrow with some kids and
digging a pit for soil testing. Some of us have a life beside praying
on others. You sad sad woman.


jay jay 21-01-2006 08:21 AM

my god, this stuff is worse than the Archers!!!

But I'm so pleased I now know the real reason for the roses in the vineyards around here - thanks Sacha - , and I would also like to mention Bob Flowerdew's 'Complete Book of Companion Gardening' which I've found really useful.

jay jay
Dordogne

Janet Baraclough 21-01-2006 02:22 PM

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The message . com
from "La Puce" contains these words:


Janet Baraclough wrote:



Puce; "I don't have an employer and am the employer."


Maybe you should instruct one of the employees to update URBED's
website, where you're listed as a Personal Secretary.


LOL! Yes, I'm my husband's PA, the office manager, the account dept,
the publicity, the personnel officer ... and you've omitted to mention
all the other responsibilities that I have, including the website. We
built our organisation 11 years ago together from our attic.


No doubt you fabricate all sorts of fantasies in your attic.

URBED was formed in Covent Garden in 1976 when you were a child.
Your husband started working for URBED in 1990. According to its
website.


http://www.urbed.com/cgi-bin/main.cg... e&doc_id=179


Janet.

La Puce 22-01-2006 05:35 PM

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jay jay wrote:

my god, this stuff is worse than the Archers!!!


Quite ugly but the best thing is just to ignore it, crois moi ;o)

jay jay
Dordogne


I'm from Perigueux. Where are you in the Dordogne?



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