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May I suggest that all those who feel strongly enough, write to the Beeb's
gardening programme department and insist that we have less gurning TV
presenters slapping each others backs; that the names of plants are shown on
the screen and that Alan and Diarmuid are not allowed within a mile of each
other. AND that if Diarmuid is going to enter his own design again, he does
not get loads of free publicity on the subject.
If we don't make/repeat our points now, it will be too late when Chelsea
does open!
Jenny.......you have contacts! ;-))
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

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Gurning? They don't gurn. If you want gurning watch the King of Gurners,
Charlie on Coronation Street. He's now started gurning when he's not even
talking - he just gurns and gurns and gurns ...... aargh.

"Sacha" wrote...
May I suggest that all those who feel strongly enough, write to the Beeb's
gardening programme department and insist that we have less gurning TV
presenters

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Sacha writes
May I suggest that all those who feel strongly enough, write to the Beeb's
gardening programme department and insist that we have less gurning TV
presenters slapping each others backs; that the names of plants are shown on
the screen and that Alan and Diarmuid are not allowed within a mile of each
other. AND that if Diarmuid is going to enter his own design again, he does
not get loads of free publicity on the subject.
If we don't make/repeat our points now, it will be too late when Chelsea
does open!

I'd father rather Alan stuck to gardening programmes (which I tend not
to watch) than he should leak into Last Night of the Proms,
documentaries and all sorts of other programmes ;-)

--
Kay

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"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
May I suggest that all those who feel strongly enough, write to the Beeb's
gardening programme department and insist that we have less gurning TV
presenters slapping each others backs; that the names of plants are shown on
the screen and that Alan and Diarmuid are not allowed within a mile of each
other. AND that if Diarmuid is going to enter his own design again, he does
not get loads of free publicity on the subject.
If we don't make/repeat our points now, it will be too late when Chelsea
does open!
Jenny.......you have contacts! ;-))
Sacha

nah - that's GQT :~))
Jenny

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On 4/2/06 16:16, in article , "Kay"
wrote:

Sacha writes
May I suggest that all those who feel strongly enough, write to the Beeb's
gardening programme department and insist that we have less gurning TV
presenters slapping each others backs; that the names of plants are shown on
the screen and that Alan and Diarmuid are not allowed within a mile of each
other. AND that if Diarmuid is going to enter his own design again, he does
not get loads of free publicity on the subject.
If we don't make/repeat our points now, it will be too late when Chelsea
does open!

I'd father rather Alan stuck to gardening programmes (which I tend not
to watch) than he should leak into Last Night of the Proms,
documentaries and all sorts of other programmes ;-)

I wonder if this is because of his high profile generally, or because he is
under contract to the Beeb so is used as much as possible - or both, of
course. I don't find him as annoying as other people seem to but there is a
problem in the public's perception of a person as being a presenter in one
slot or the other, I think.
I wasn't suggesting that Alan should not present Chelsea but that we should
not be subjected to that teeth achingly arch 'play' stuff that went on
between them last year or the gimmick of Chris Beardshaw riding his bike
around the exhibition gardens the night before, just when anxious exhibitors
most wanted to be left alone to finish, too! IOW, more about the gardens
and the plants and nothing about the personality of the presenters or
allotments in Cheshire. Chelsea and just Chelsea would be my personal plea.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

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On 4/2/06 16:38, in article , "JennyC"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
May I suggest that all those who feel strongly enough, write to the Beeb's
gardening programme department and insist that we have less gurning TV
presenters slapping each others backs; that the names of plants are shown on
the screen and that Alan and Diarmuid are not allowed within a mile of each
other. AND that if Diarmuid is going to enter his own design again, he does
not get loads of free publicity on the subject.
If we don't make/repeat our points now, it will be too late when Chelsea
does open!
Jenny.......you have contacts! ;-))
Sacha

nah - that's GQT :~))
Jenny


Network, gel, network!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

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"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 4/2/06 16:38, in article , "JennyC"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
May I suggest that all those who feel strongly enough, write to the Beeb's
gardening programme department and insist that we have less gurning TV
presenters slapping each others backs; that the names of plants are shown
on
the screen and that Alan and Diarmuid are not allowed within a mile of each
other. AND that if Diarmuid is going to enter his own design again, he
does
not get loads of free publicity on the subject.
If we don't make/repeat our points now, it will be too late when Chelsea
does open!
Jenny.......you have contacts! ;-))
Sacha

nah - that's GQT :~))
Jenny


Network, gel, network!
Sacha

OK :~)

Mail sent to: and

Maybe if we ALL mail them .......................
Jenny

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On 5/2/06 9:26, in article , "JennyC"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
On 4/2/06 16:38, in article , "JennyC"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
May I suggest that all those who feel strongly enough, write to the Beeb's
gardening programme department and insist that we have less gurning TV
presenters slapping each others backs; that the names of plants are shown
on
the screen and that Alan and Diarmuid are not allowed within a mile of each
other. AND that if Diarmuid is going to enter his own design again, he
does
not get loads of free publicity on the subject.
If we don't make/repeat our points now, it will be too late when Chelsea
does open!
Jenny.......you have contacts! ;-))
Sacha

nah - that's GQT :~))
Jenny


Network, gel, network!
Sacha

OK :~)

Mail sent to: and

Maybe if we ALL mail them .......................
Jenny


I must admit that I hope lots do.

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"Sacha" wrote
On 5/2/06 9:26, "JennyC" wrote:

May I suggest that all those who feel strongly enough, write to the
Beeb's
gardening programme department and insist that we have less gurning TV
presenters slapping each others backs; that the names of plants are shown
on the screen and that Alan and Diarmuid are not allowed within a mile of
each
other. AND that if Diarmuid is going to enter his own design again, he
does not get loads of free publicity on the subject.
If we don't make/repeat our points now, it will be too late when Chelsea
does open! Jenny.......you have contacts! ;-))
Sacha

Mail sent to: and

Maybe if we ALL mail them .......................
Jenny

I must admit that I hope lots do.

Here's the reply I got:

I am sorry that you were disappointed by the BBC's coverage of the RHS Chelsea
Flower Show last year, especially with the BBC Television presenters and their
style of presenting.
We work closely with the BBC to try to ensure that viewers who cannot visit
Chelsea personally are able to enjoy as much of the show as possible. However,
editorial control rests with the BBC, as does their choice of presenters.

We have passed on to the BBC the concerns of viewers who have written to us, and
we are pressing the producers for improved coverage of the Great Pavilion and
floral content in general.

However, we recognise that the BBC coverage of the show needs to appeal to a
wide audience, not just keen gardeners, and over the years the programmes have
proven extremely popular, attracting an average of more than three million
viewers daily. In 2005 we received fewer complaints about Chelsea coverage,
around 30 in total, than in any year since the BBC won the contract to cover the
show in 2001.

We do take note of members and viewers concerns and take these into account when
we regularly review our broadcasting arrangements. Thank you for taking the
time to send us your view, which I will also forward to the BBC.

Kind regards, Hayley (RHS Pressoffice)

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On 9/2/06 16:04, in article , "JennyC"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote
On 5/2/06 9:26, "JennyC" wrote:

May I suggest that all those who feel strongly enough, write to the
Beeb's
gardening programme department and insist that we have less gurning TV
presenters slapping each others backs; that the names of plants are shown
on the screen and that Alan and Diarmuid are not allowed within a mile of
each
other. AND that if Diarmuid is going to enter his own design again, he
does not get loads of free publicity on the subject.
If we don't make/repeat our points now, it will be too late when Chelsea
does open! Jenny.......you have contacts! ;-))
Sacha

Mail sent to: and

Maybe if we ALL mail them .......................
Jenny

I must admit that I hope lots do.

Here's the reply I got:

I am sorry that you were disappointed by the BBC's coverage of the RHS Chelsea
Flower Show last year, especially with the BBC Television presenters and their
style of presenting.

snip of rest of form letter

How strange. That's *precisely* the one I got! I have also written to the
BBC.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

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Sacha writes


How strange. That's *precisely* the one I got! I have also written to the
BBC.

Not strange at all. They'll have carefully drafted a standard letter and
be sending out to everyone ;-) The most you can hope for is a tailored
addition if you make a specific point that no one else has made.

I wonder why Chelsea coverage "has to appeal to a wider audience, not
just gardeners". Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't,
for example, arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't
interested in snooker, do they?
--
Kay

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On 9/2/06 20:31, in article , "Kay"
wrote:

Sacha writes


How strange. That's *precisely* the one I got! I have also written to the
BBC.

Not strange at all. They'll have carefully drafted a standard letter and
be sending out to everyone ;-) The most you can hope for is a tailored
addition if you make a specific point that no one else has made.

I should have put in a smiley -- I was being mildly sarcastic.

I wonder why Chelsea coverage "has to appeal to a wider audience, not
just gardeners". Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't,
for example, arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't
interested in snooker, do they?

I hope your email is on its way to them, Kay!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

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The message
from Kay contains these words:


I wonder why Chelsea coverage "has to appeal to a wider audience, not
just gardeners". Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't,
for example, arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't
interested in snooker, do they?

Maybe if they stuck flowers in all those holes, I'd find snooker more
interesting?

Janet

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Sacha writes
On 9/2/06 20:31, in article , "Kay"
wrote:


I should have put in a smiley -- I was being mildly sarcastic.

I shouldn't follow up posts after a long day in London. Ability to
recognise humour vanishes completely.


--
Kay

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Janet Baraclough writes
The message
from Kay contains these words:


I wonder why Chelsea coverage "has to appeal to a wider audience, not
just gardeners". Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't,
for example, arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't
interested in snooker, do they?

Maybe if they stuck flowers in all those holes, I'd find snooker more
interesting?

A snooker ball can do lots of damage. What if they filled the holes with
VWs and slugs instead?
--
Kay

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"Martin" wrote
Kay wrote:

I wonder why Chelsea coverage "has to appeal to a wider audience, not
just gardeners". Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't,
for example, arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't
interested in snooker, do they?

Sailing is covered in terms of "look at all the pretty sails".

I look forward to this policy of wider appeal being applied to football
with the planting of herbaceous borders behind each goal, and during
televised matches Monty to come on at half-time and demonstrate grass
maintenance.

--
Sue

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In article , Kay
writes
Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't, for example,
arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't interested in
snooker, do they?


What you mean there isn't topless snooker yet? Wait only a few more
years Kay, it'll be on Channel 4 ................................
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

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"Janet Tweedy" wrote in message
...
In article , Kay
writes
Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't, for example,
arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't interested in
snooker, do they?


What you mean there isn't topless snooker yet? Wait only a few more years
Kay, it'll be on Channel 4 ................................

Sounds great; I will look forward to it.


--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

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"Kay" wrote in message
...
Sacha writes


How strange. That's *precisely* the one I got! I have also written to
the
BBC.

Not strange at all. They'll have carefully drafted a standard letter and
be sending out to everyone ;-) The most you can hope for is a tailored
addition if you make a specific point that no one else has made.

I wonder why Chelsea coverage "has to appeal to a wider audience, not just
gardeners". Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't, for
example, arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't interested
in snooker, do they?

I am afraid they do. The real hard core snooker fanatic audience is small.
Snooker became big when they could persuade millions to watch it now and
again. To do that they need exactly the same stuff that drives you nuts
about chelsea coverage.
It is shallow and glitzy and pulls in punters.

Chelsea coverage is grim and glitzy but once a year is easy entertainment.
It works because it pulls in big audiences who do not like latin names or
even know what latin is or care.
If Chelsea went technical, it would be much more fun for me to watch and
audiences would plummet.
It is a sad fact of growing old that more and more TV looks shallow like
this.
Bums on seats etc.

--
Kay

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The message
from Janet Tweedy contains these words:

In article , Kay
writes
Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't, for example,
arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't interested in
snooker, do they?


What you mean there isn't topless snooker yet? Wait only a few more
years Kay, it'll be on Channel 4 ................................

Not to mention bottomless football.

Janet.

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from Janet Tweedy contains these words:

In article , Kay
writes
Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't, for example,
arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't interested in
snooker, do they?


What you mean there isn't topless snooker yet? Wait only a few more
years Kay, it'll be on Channel 4 ................................

Not to mention bottomless football.

ho ho
not bad!


Janet.

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In article , Janet Baraclough
writes

.............................

Not to mention bottomless football.

Janet.


I think they have endless football instead for that...........
--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

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On 9/2/06 22:46, in article , "Janet
Baraclough" wrote:

The message
from Kay contains these words:


I wonder why Chelsea coverage "has to appeal to a wider audience, not
just gardeners". Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't,
for example, arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't
interested in snooker, do they?

Maybe if they stuck flowers in all those holes, I'd find snooker more
interesting?


Or made pretty little tussy mussys all round the feathers of darts!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

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On 9/2/06 23:30, in article , "K"
wrote:

Sacha writes
On 9/2/06 20:31, in article , "Kay"
wrote:


I should have put in a smiley -- I was being mildly sarcastic.

I shouldn't follow up posts after a long day in London. Ability to
recognise humour vanishes completely.

Don't worry about it - London certainly has that effect on me! I don't think
I've been there for nearly three years and I'm not exactly panting to go
now.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

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The message
from Sacha contains these words:

On 9/2/06 22:46, in article , "Janet
Baraclough" wrote:

The message
from Kay contains these words:


I wonder why Chelsea coverage "has to appeal to a wider audience, not
just gardeners". Going back to Janet's sporting analogies, they don't,
for example, arrange for "Pot Black" to appeal to people who aren't
interested in snooker, do they?

Maybe if they stuck flowers in all those holes, I'd find snooker more
interesting?


Or made pretty little tussy mussys all round the feathers of darts!

In between shots, the Diet Doctor could examine the fat dartplayers'
poohs and give them dietary advice.

Janet

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In article , Janet Baraclough
writes
The message
from Janet Tweedy contains these words:

Not to mention bottomless football.


I think you'll just have to make do with endless football:)

--
regards andyw

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In article , Janet Tweedy
writes
In article , Janet Baraclough
writes

.............................

Not to mention bottomless football.

Janet.


I think they have endless football instead for that...........

Doh! That'll teach me not to read before I post... ah well, looks like
we might think alike I'm afraid - sorry:)

--
regards andyw