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Old 29-03-2003, 09:08 AM
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We had a serious problem with a mole last autumn. The mole was dealt
with but after several months we are still suffering from an almost
total lack of earthworms in the garden -very few are seen when
digging.

Where to buy worms ? I believe those sold locally by fishing-tackle
shops are unsuitable ?



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Old 29-03-2003, 12:20 PM
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We had a serious problem with a mole last autumn. The mole was dealt
with but after several months we are still suffering from an almost
total lack of earthworms in the garden -very few are seen when
digging.

Where to buy worms ? I believe those sold locally by fishing-tackle
shops are unsuitable ?


I wouldn't have thought the mole was totally to blame - more that the
conditions aren't right for a high population of worms, so buy buying
some and adding them might simply be a waste of money. Url below might
tell more

--
Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm
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Old 30-03-2003, 02:33 AM
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We had a serious problem with a mole last autumn. The mole was dealt
with but after several months we are still suffering from an almost
total lack of earthworms in the garden -very few are seen when
digging.

Where to buy worms ? I believe those sold locally by fishing-tackle
shops are unsuitable ?


I wouldn't have thought the mole was totally to blame - more that the
conditions aren't right for a high population of worms,


Or New Zealand flat worm???
Aren't they supposed to kill our native worms??

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Old 30-03-2003, 02:33 AM
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We had a serious problem with a mole last autumn. The mole was dealt
with but after several months we are still suffering from an almost
total lack of earthworms in the garden -very few are seen when
digging.

Where to buy worms ? I believe those sold locally by fishing-tackle
shops are unsuitable ?


I wouldn't have thought the mole was totally to blame - more that the
conditions aren't right for a high population of worms, so buy buying
some and adding them might simply be a waste of money. Url below might
tell more


Kay - thanks for the URL, but I didn't find a list of retail worm
stockists.

I think you under-estimate the digestive capacity of a mole. It will
eat its own bodyweight of worms in a day. In a small garden over five
months I'm pretty sure it cleaned us out.

The mole-catcher got it in November and reckoned it would likely have
starved to death pretty soon amyway.

The soil conditions won't have changed much since last May when we had
a shedfull of worms and in the last couple of weeks we've been digging
in plenty of good home-made compost and rotted-down leaves. No worms
to be seen though so I think we'll have to introduce a starter
population to get the numbers back up to normal.

Anyway the mole-catcher cost us 40 quid and we can't really afford the
50 your Edward is asking for a consultancy fee so we'll just have to
resort to digging in the fields by torchlight.

Keep you're fingers crossed we don't get caught - the magistrates
round here all seem to be farmers !


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Old 30-03-2003, 11:20 AM
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Kay Easton wrote in message news:[email protected]
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In article , Britannica
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We had a serious problem with a mole last autumn. The mole was dealt
with but after several months we are still suffering from an almost
total lack of earthworms in the garden -very few are seen when
digging.

Where to buy worms ? I believe those sold locally by fishing-tackle
shops are unsuitable ?


The earthworm variety fishing bait are tiger worms, which like the high
humus conditions of compost heaps.

I wouldn't have thought the mole was totally to blame - more that the
conditions aren't right for a high population of worms, so buy buying
some and adding them might simply be a waste of money. Url below might
tell more


Kay - thanks for the URL, but I didn't find a list of retail worm
stockists.


No, you wouldn't! He's basically saying get the conditions right and
you'll get the worms, so don't waste your money ;-)
I was hoping he'd got something in there about the conditions that worms
like.

The soil conditions won't have changed much since last May when we had
a shedfull of worms and in the last couple of weeks we've been digging
in plenty of good home-made compost and rotted-down leaves. No worms
to be seen though so I think we'll have to introduce a starter
population to get the numbers back up to normal.


What?? No worms in the compost??? - though they'd be tiger worms rather
than Lumbricus terrestris.

Anyway the mole-catcher cost us 40 quid and we can't really afford the
50 your Edward is asking for a consultancy fee


That's not a consultancy fee, that's a deterrent! He's a curmudgeon ;-)

so we'll just have to
resort to digging in the fields by torchlight.

OK - three things to look up on Google:

"Can-o-worms" - a widely available wormery. Suppliers of this should
also supply tiger worms, but they do need high humus levels.

"red spider" plus "natural predator" - that'll get you suppliers of
biological controls, at least one of whom will also sell you tiger worms

CJ Birdfoods - ISTR that along all the mealworms and so on they sell,
they also sell common earthworms, which is what you're really after.

Oh - and wait a month - the soil hasn't really warmed up yet, so things
might improve

Finally - once you've re-stocked, how are you going to protect them from
the next mole invader? - I'm not trying to be negative, just curious.
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Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm
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Old 30-03-2003, 02:56 PM
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We had a serious problem with a mole last autumn. The mole was dealt
with but after several months we are still suffering from an almost
total lack of earthworms in the garden -very few are seen when
digging.

Where to buy worms ? I believe those sold locally by fishing-tackle
shops are unsuitable ?


I wouldn't have thought the mole was totally to blame - more that the
conditions aren't right for a high population of worms,


Or New Zealand flat worm???
Aren't they supposed to kill our native worms??


If it _is_ NZ flatworms, there'll be signs of them somewhere.
They like much the same conditions as slugs and snails, so
they'll be hiding in damp places.

If they _are_ the problem, don't be tempted to kill any beetles
you find around the garden, 'cos one beetle in particular (and
I don't know which one it is!) predates on the NZ flatworm.

Best of luck!

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Big snip 8-----------

Oh - and wait a month - the soil hasn't really warmed up yet, so things
might improve

Finally - once you've re-stocked, how are you going to protect them from
the next mole invader? - I'm not trying to be negative, just curious.


Kay - sorry about the tardiness. Thanks for the advice.

SWDTG (She who does the gardening) says there were some worms in
the compost,- something I'd overlooked. But I think the lack of rain
for the past three weeks or so is probably the real culprit - the
worms that surived the mole have probably gone really deep.

As for another mole - we get the catcher in on sighting the first
mound. With the last one we wasted too much time with old wive's tale
solutions that didn't work !!

It is a walled garden and I know the wall foundations are at least two
feet below soil level. I think the mole got in last time while I had
the garden gate off for repair - I've now added a piece on the bottom
of the gate so there' a bare half-inch clearance.


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It is a walled garden and I know the wall foundations are at least two
feet below soil level. I think the mole got in last time while I had
the garden gate off for repair - I've now added a piece on the bottom
of the gate so there' a bare half-inch clearance.


But don't moles burrow? can't it just come in *under* the gate?
(I don't know anything about moles - our garden is far too wet for them)

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Kay Easton

Edward's earthworm page:
http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/edward/index.htm
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Old 01-04-2003, 11:08 PM
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But don't moles burrow? can't it just come in *under* the gate?
(I don't know anything about moles - our garden is far too wet for them)

They can tunnel under motorways!!
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