GardenBanter.co.uk

GardenBanter.co.uk (https://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/)
-   United Kingdom (https://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/united-kingdom/)
-   -   Signatures (https://www.gardenbanter.co.uk/united-kingdom/123582-signatures.html)

Sacha 16-02-2006 03:25 PM

Signatures
 
Very often people ask for advice on the use of certain plants in their
gardens but the rest of us don't know where they live. And if we do know,
we might have forgotten! I know this was suggested by someone several
years ago but I would suggest that attaching a brief description of your
general location to your sig.file helps urglers to help each other. David
Poole does that, Charlie Pridham does it and so do I and a few others so it
gives anyone reading our posts some notion of whether what we're saying is
of any relevance to their personal circumstances.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)


Gardening_Convert 16-02-2006 04:01 PM

Signatures
 
How do you create a signature ?


Nick Maclaren 16-02-2006 04:09 PM

Signatures
 

In article .com,
"Gardening_Convert" writes:
|
| How do you create a signature ?

Well, you can just type one in. Or you can created a file with
what you would type and include it in your postings (which is what
I do). Or you can set up the mailer/reader to do it automatically.
Whatever.

I suggest ignoring the nonsense about two hyphens and a space,
because it was and is completely demented. I could tell you the
history of the 'convention', and it is even more insane than most
aspects of Usenet.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

[email protected] 16-02-2006 04:16 PM

Signatures
 
Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article .com,
"Gardening_Convert" writes:
|
| How do you create a signature ?

Well, you can just type one in. Or you can created a file with
what you would type and include it in your postings (which is what
I do). Or you can set up the mailer/reader to do it automatically.
Whatever.

I suggest ignoring the nonsense about two hyphens and a space,
because it was and is completely demented. I could tell you the
history of the 'convention', and it is even more insane than most
aspects of Usenet.

However it is polite to include it for those of us who still use programs
which recognise and use it. It's hardly onerous to add it.

--
Chris Green


Nick Maclaren 16-02-2006 04:28 PM

Signatures
 

In article , writes:
|
| However it is polite to include it for those of us who still use programs
| which recognise and use it. It's hardly onerous to add it.

And it is impolite to send it to the people who don't. It is
hardly onerous to remove it.

It was and is an utterly and totally brain-dead idea, which flew
in the face of every accepted convention on Email, was incompatible
with MOST editors and MOST mailers, was rejected every time it was
proposed, and was sneaked into an RFC on something else by its
demented author.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha 16-02-2006 04:31 PM

Signatures
 
On 16/2/06 16:01, in article
, "Gardening_Convert"
wrote:

How do you create a signature ?

Somewhere on your tool bar - even under Tools, possibly - there will be
something that says Signatures. Click on that, click on new, give it a
title and type into the box what you want your sig. to say. Save it and
then, when you type your msg. you just click on "Signatures" at the top of
the msg. window you're typing in and on the sig. you want to use. There
must be other and possibly easier ways but that does it for me! ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)


Sacha 16-02-2006 04:35 PM

Signatures
 
On 16/2/06 16:28, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article , writes:
|
| However it is polite to include it for those of us who still use programs
| which recognise and use it. It's hardly onerous to add it.

And it is impolite to send it to the people who don't. It is
hardly onerous to remove it.

It was and is an utterly and totally brain-dead idea, which flew
in the face of every accepted convention on Email, was incompatible
with MOST editors and MOST mailers, was rejected every time it was
proposed, and was sneaked into an RFC on something else by its
demented author.

Ahem. Perhaps we could get into the niceties of the more arcane rules of
the Internet or the WWW or whatever it may be, later. Just for now, perhaps
explaining how sig files are created would help those interested in helping
urg to help them. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)


Nick Maclaren 16-02-2006 04:38 PM

Signatures
 

In article ,
Sacha writes:
|
| Ahem. Perhaps we could get into the niceties of the more arcane rules of
| the Internet or the WWW or whatever it may be, later. Just for now, perhaps
| explaining how sig files are created would help those interested in helping
| urg to help them. ;-)

That's what I provided in the first place :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sacha 16-02-2006 04:52 PM

Signatures
 
On 16/2/06 16:38, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote:


In article ,
Sacha writes:
|
| Ahem. Perhaps we could get into the niceties of the more arcane rules of
| the Internet or the WWW or whatever it may be, later. Just for now,
perhaps
| explaining how sig files are created would help those interested in helping
| urg to help them. ;-)

That's what I provided in the first place :-)

Yes and no - I think it might help people to know where to find the buttons
to press and the toggles to twiddle. ;-) I know that you know what you're
doing but people like me don't and find out by trial and error OR, if we're
lucky, people like you taking us through it step by faltering step!
--
Sacha



Nick Maclaren 16-02-2006 05:03 PM

Signatures
 

In article ,
Sacha writes:
|
| Yes and no - I think it might help people to know where to find the buttons
| to press and the toggles to twiddle. ;-) I know that you know what you're
| doing but people like me don't and find out by trial and error OR, if we're
| lucky, people like you taking us through it step by faltering step!

However, in a case like this, one of the rarest and most useful
pieces of information is "You don't have to - just do it by hand."
It is amazing how often that saves time, compared with being given
advice on how to do it "properly". And that is even when the
advice is correct, and not for a system he is not using!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Alan 16-02-2006 05:27 PM

Signatures
 
In message , Nick Maclaren
wrote

was incompatible
with MOST editors and MOST mailers, was rejected every time it was
proposed,


Only because M$ had so many bugs in their email/news software that took
them years to fix ... or have they :)

begin virus1

begin virus2

begin virus3

--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

Nick Maclaren 16-02-2006 05:38 PM

Signatures
 

In article ,
Alan writes:
|
| was incompatible
| with MOST editors and MOST mailers, was rejected every time it was
| proposed,
|
| Only because M$ had so many bugs in their email/news software that took
| them years to fix ... or have they :)

That Johnny-come-lately company has nothing to do with the matter.
I am referring to a time before Microsoft had entered the nitworking
arena.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Rusty Hinge 2 16-02-2006 06:04 PM

Signatures
 
The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:

I suggest ignoring the nonsense about two hyphens and a space,
because it was and is completely demented. I could tell you the
history of the 'convention', and it is even more insane than most
aspects of Usenet.


However, mail/news-handling software are written to use it, and it can
save time if you use the facility, or make it more difficult for others
if you don't use it, and like many here, don't snip the signature of the
preceding post(s).

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

Rusty Hinge 2 16-02-2006 06:08 PM

Signatures
 
The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:
In article ,
writes:
|
| However it is polite to include it for those of us who still use programs
| which recognise and use it. It's hardly onerous to add it.


And it is impolite to send it to the people who don't.


How?

It is
hardly onerous to remove it.


If your newsreader hasn't already removed it - and the reply which came
after it.

It was and is an utterly and totally brain-dead idea, which flew
in the face of every accepted convention on Email, was incompatible
with MOST editors and MOST mailers, was rejected every time it was
proposed, and was sneaked into an RFC on something else by its
demented author.

^^^^^^

He was Mercadian?

Funny, you seem to be the only one in step - that is, in resisting it,
not in ignoring it.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig

Rusty Hinge 2 16-02-2006 06:12 PM

Signatures
 
The message
from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words:
In article ,
Sacha writes:
|
| Yes and no - I think it might help people to know where to find the
buttons
| to press and the toggles to twiddle. ;-) I know that you know what
you're
| doing but people like me don't and find out by trial and error OR,
if we're
| lucky, people like you taking us through it step by faltering step!


However, in a case like this, one of the rarest and most useful
pieces of information is "You don't have to - just do it by hand."
It is amazing how often that saves time, compared with being given
advice on how to do it "properly". And that is even when the
advice is correct, and not for a system he is not using!


However - it's surprising the time it saves in the long run, *NOT*
having to type your signature every time you post something.

I'd say that wasting a few minutes setting up a sig is well worth the
hours you save in the long term.

--
Rusty
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk
Separator in search of a sig


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:07 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
GardenBanter