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Could anyone please tell me of an organic way to kill moss on a small, damp,
north facing lawn. I have spiked it, added sand to improve drainage and fed it but so far no improvement. The moss is very pretty but when it dries out in the summer I am just left with a brown mess. Thankyou Elaine -- -- Andrew and Elaine MacGregor |
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:32:53 +0100, "Elaine MacGregor"
wrote: ~Could anyone please tell me of an organic way to kill moss on a small, damp, ~north facing lawn. I have spiked it, added sand to improve drainage and fed ~it but so far no improvement. ~The moss is very pretty but when it dries out in the summer I am just left ~with a brown mess. ~ well I've lost half a lawn this winter to moss. I literally have no grass left on the worst half of it, though it was mostly due to having a teak garden seat on it - not enough light got through. I raked a binlinerfull out with a lawn rake (£4 B&Q) then tried to use a borrowed hollow tined aerator (not much good as it kept clogging) and in a week or so (now it's rained) I'm going to rake again then reseed with shady lawn seed. Hard work though! Next year the seat gets put on the path overwinter. I suspect that if it's really bad, hiring a scarifier will clear the moss and thatch (and make it look terrible) but you can then top dress with compost and sand, reseed with shade seed and have a good grass lawn by midsummer with not a chemical in sight. -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove nospam from replies, thanks! |
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Elaine MacGregor wrote: Could anyone please tell me of an organic way to kill moss on a small, damp, north facing lawn. I have spiked it, added sand to improve drainage and fed it but so far no improvement. The moss is very pretty but when it dries out in the summer I am just left with a brown mess. It won't help. There is no grass that will thrive over a wider range of waterlogging to dessication than moss will. If your lawn is very damp in winter and dries out in summer, then you will merely end up with shrivelled grass in summer. Unless you can get the drainage good enough that the soils drains well in winter, you will always have trouble in summer. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Elaine MacGregor" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me of an organic way to kill moss on a small, damp, north facing lawn. I have spiked it, added sand to improve drainage and fed it but so far no improvement. The moss is very pretty but when it dries out in the summer I am just left with a brown mess. Thankyou Elaine -- -- Andrew and Elaine MacGregor You could refer to "moss" below "31/3/03" |
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I suspect your lawn is not only North facing but also shaded
Are their conifers in the vicinity ? These always seem to upset the grass nutrient balance and encourage moss "Elaine MacGregor" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me of an organic way to kill moss on a small, damp, north facing lawn. I have spiked it, added sand to improve drainage and fed it but so far no improvement. The moss is very pretty but when it dries out in the summer I am just left with a brown mess. Thankyou Elaine -- -- Andrew and Elaine MacGregor |
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:32:53 +0100, Elaine MacGregor wrote:
Could anyone please tell me of an organic way to kill moss on a small, damp, north facing lawn. I have spiked it, added sand to improve drainage and fed it but so far no improvement. The moss is very pretty but when it dries out in the summer I am just left with a brown mess. Aha. Last Sunday, I was just talking with my friend who is a botanist at our local university. She and her husband conducted an experiment on their own lawn to evaluate moss-control methods. Suggested strategy as a result: 1. rake as much of the moss out of the lawn as you can. You can put it into the compost. 2. cut the grass long, not short 3. apply lime and fertilizer in modest amounts "Moss killer" fertilizer containing ferrous sulfate may help but raking the moss out is (as written above) the #1 thing to do. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada |
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"Rodger Whitlock" wrote in message ... On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:32:53 +0100, Elaine MacGregor wrote: Could anyone please tell me of an organic way to kill moss on a small, damp, north facing lawn. I have spiked it, added sand to improve drainage and fed it but so far no improvement. The moss is very pretty but when it dries out in the summer I am just left with a brown mess. Aha. Last Sunday, I was just talking with my friend who is a botanist at our local university. She and her husband conducted an experiment on their own lawn to evaluate moss-control methods. Suggested strategy as a result: 1. rake as much of the moss out of the lawn as you can. You can put it into the compost. 2. cut the grass long, not short 3. apply lime and fertilizer in modest amounts "Moss killer" fertilizer containing ferrous sulfate may help but raking the moss out is (as written above) the #1 thing to do. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada That is a years old standard treatment Bell |
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"Annabel" wrote in news:b6h5u6$f7k$1
@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk: "Rodger Whitlock" wrote in message ... Aha. Last Sunday, I was just talking with my friend who is a botanist at our local university. She and her husband conducted an experiment on their own lawn to evaluate moss-control methods. Suggested strategy as a result: 1. rake as much of the moss out of the lawn as you can. You can put it into the compost. 2. cut the grass long, not short 3. apply lime and fertilizer in modest amounts "Moss killer" fertilizer containing ferrous sulfate may help but raking the moss out is (as written above) the #1 thing to do. That is a years old standard treatment Surely that doesn't mean that the news that someone has tested it (presumably against a control or other possible methods), and proved it to work, isn't a good thing. There are lots of 'standard' gardening treatments, but that doesn't mean they are necessarily the best/easiest/cheapest. I've certainly found misleading gardening advice in books and magazines before now! (or at least,'standard' advice that didn't work for me). For example, I never have much luck pruning clematis exactly as the books/labels say you should. When I do that, slugs eat all the young shoots. I have found leaving some extra stalk in place lifts those young shoots out of their reach. And I know that real sweet pea experts plant theirs in autumn, but mine get hopelessly leggy when I do that, whereas spring plantings work better for what I want (not exhibition blooms, but some cheerful easy plants) Victoria |
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"Victoria Clare" wrote in message .217... "Annabel" wrote in news:b6h5u6$f7k$1 @newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk: "Rodger Whitlock" wrote in message ... Aha. Last Sunday, I was just talking with my friend who is a botanist at our local university. She and her husband conducted an experiment on their own lawn to evaluate moss-control methods. Suggested strategy as a result: 1. rake as much of the moss out of the lawn as you can. You can put it into the compost. 2. cut the grass long, not short 3. apply lime and fertilizer in modest amounts "Moss killer" fertilizer containing ferrous sulfate may help but raking the moss out is (as written above) the #1 thing to do. That is a years old standard treatment Surely that doesn't mean that the news that someone has tested it (presumably against a control or other possible methods), and proved it to work, isn't a good thing. I didn't mean to imply it wasn't a good thing, what I mean is that this is a standard, well tried and tested, method which I would have thought was the first thing to do, other than drainage, to combat moss. Bell |
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On Thu, 03 Apr 2003 14:01:32 +0100, Victoria Clare wrote:
"Annabel" wrote in news:b6h5u6$f7k$1 @newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk: "Rodger Whitlock" wrote in message ... Aha. Last Sunday, I was just talking with my friend who is a botanist at our local university. She and her husband conducted an experiment on their own lawn to evaluate moss-control methods. Suggested strategy as a result: 1. rake as much of the moss out of the lawn as you can. You can put it into the compost. 2. cut the grass long, not short 3. apply lime and fertilizer in modest amounts "Moss killer" fertilizer containing ferrous sulfate may help but raking the moss out is (as written above) the #1 thing to do. That is a years old standard treatment Surely that doesn't mean that the news that someone has tested it (presumably against a control or other possible methods), and proved it to work, isn't a good thing. My friend and her husband are both research botanists and have a distinctly scientific and experimental outlook on such matters. As Victoria Clare has guessed, they conducted a simple but reliable 2-way experiment, so the recommendation is, for a pleasant change, not based on old wives' tales. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada |
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Aha. Last Sunday, I was just talking with my friend who is a botanist at our local university. She and her husband conducted an experiment on their own lawn to evaluate moss-control methods. Suggested strategy as a result: 1. rake as much of the moss out of the lawn as you can. You can put it into the compost. 2. cut the grass long, not short 3. apply lime and fertilizer in modest amounts "Moss killer" fertilizer containing ferrous sulfate may help but raking the moss out is (as written above) the #1 thing to do. That is a years old standard treatment Surely that doesn't mean that the news that someone has tested it (presumably against a control or other possible methods), and proved it to work, isn't a good thing. My friend and her husband are both research botanists and have a distinctly scientific and experimental outlook on such matters. As Victoria Clare has guessed, they conducted a simple but reliable 2-way experiment, so the recommendation is, for a pleasant change, not based on old wives' tales. Not all old wives tales should be belittled, indeed your friends have just proved that a long established (because of its effectiveness) highly potent method of treating moss is validated. I did not try to denigrate your friends I merely said it was a long established method. See also my reply to Victoria Clare. |
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from "Annabel" contains these words: I didn't mean to imply it wasn't a good thing, what I mean is that this is a standard, well tried and tested, method which I would have thought was the first thing to do, other than drainage, to combat moss. Obviously the OP didn't know, nor could he read your thoughts. Newsgroups don't operate by telepathy. Please read the abc for newcomers post which appears weekly, and find out how to edit quoted posts. Janet |
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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "Annabel" contains these words: I didn't mean to imply it wasn't a good thing, what I mean is that this is a standard, well tried and tested, method which I would have thought was the first thing to do, other than drainage, to combat moss. Obviously the OP didn't know, nor could he read your thoughts. Newsgroups don't operate by telepathy. I didnt have those thoughts that the poster, not the OP, thought I had. *She* inferd them from a very simple statement "That is a years old standard treatment" Please read the abc for newcomers post which appears weekly, and find out how to edit quoted posts. Where would that help me as I didnt edit nor need to edit quoted posts Janet |
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"Annabel" wrote in message ...
Aha. Last Sunday, I was just talking with my friend who is a botanist at our local university. She and her husband conducted an experiment on their own lawn to evaluate moss-control methods. Suggested strategy as a result: 1. rake as much of the moss out of the lawn as you can. You can put it into the compost. 2. cut the grass long, not short 3. apply lime and fertilizer in modest amounts "Moss killer" fertilizer containing ferrous sulfate may help but raking the moss out is (as written above) the #1 thing to do. That is a years old standard treatment Surely that doesn't mean that the news that someone has tested it (presumably against a control or other possible methods), and proved it to work, isn't a good thing. My friend and her husband are both research botanists and have a distinctly scientific and experimental outlook on such matters. As Victoria Clare has guessed, they conducted a simple but reliable 2-way experiment, so the recommendation is, for a pleasant change, not based on old wives' tales. Not all old wives tales should be belittled, indeed your friends have just proved that a long established (because of its effectiveness) highly potent method of treating moss is validated. I did not try to denigrate your friends I merely said it was a long established method. See also my reply to Victoria Clare. I wonder if RHUBARB concoction will work.Havn't tried it.Just a thought..Ken |
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from "Annabel" contains these words: "Janet Baraclough" wrote in message ... The message from "Annabel" contains these words: I didn't mean to imply it wasn't a good thing, what I mean is that this is a standard, well tried and tested, method which I would have thought was the first thing to do, other than drainage, to combat moss. Obviously the OP didn't know, nor could he read your thoughts. Newsgroups don't operate by telepathy. I didnt have those thoughts that the poster, not the OP, thought I had. *She* inferd them from a very simple statement "That is a years old standard treatment" I was referring to your comment "I would have thought it was the first thing to do". Please read the abc for newcomers post which appears weekly, and find out how to edit quoted posts. Where would that help me as I didnt edit nor need to edit quoted posts !!!!!! It would help you look less foolish. Janet. |
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