Following Janet's recommendation of this tree, I'm very pleased to say that
I have found one at the Duchy nursery in Cornwall, which also supplied us
with some Populus balsamifera. Very satisfactory result! And I *think* I've
found a source of Acer Coonara Pygmy - fingers crossed!
Our local branch of Morrisons, in Totnes, has some Alders planted in the car
park and one, in particular, has enormously long catkins - every year I
promise myself that I'll try to get some seeds from it and this year I
really must kick myself to remember to do it!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
Following Janet's recommendation of this tree, I'm very pleased to say
that
I have found one at the Duchy nursery in Cornwall, which also supplied us
with some Populus balsamifera. Very satisfactory result! And I *think*
I've
found a source of Acer Coonara Pygmy - fingers crossed!
Our local branch of Morrisons, in Totnes, has some Alders planted in the
car
park and one, in particular, has enormously long catkins - every year I
promise myself that I'll try to get some seeds from it and this year I
really must kick myself to remember to do it!
~~~~~~~~
Alnus is very variable from seed. Almost perverseley so. Much better to
try for a graft or bud. [Have never tried cuttings] If the Morrison
specimen is of glutinosa origin then it will not grow from seed anyway.
Beware of the stickiness of the balsamifera. Impossible to remove from
clothes without petrol and annoying on hands etc. Every little piece roots
with abandom and grows rapidly.
I have a Populus lasiocarpus [originally from Westonbirt] with leaves
so large that rhubarb blushes and covers itself with bundles of cotton wool.
This is quite rare and one of the relatively few things I can grow!!
Best Wishes Brian.



--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

"Brian" --- 'flayb' to respond wrote in message
...

"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
Following Janet's recommendation of this tree, I'm very pleased to say
that
I have found one at the Duchy nursery in Cornwall, which also supplied
us
with some Populus balsamifera. Very satisfactory result! And I *think*
I've
found a source of Acer Coonara Pygmy - fingers crossed!
Our local branch of Morrisons, in Totnes, has some Alders planted in the
car
park and one, in particular, has enormously long catkins - every year I
promise myself that I'll try to get some seeds from it and this year I
really must kick myself to remember to do it!
~~~~~~~~
Alnus is very variable from seed. Almost perverseley so. Much better to
try for a graft or bud. [Have never tried cuttings] If the Morrison
specimen is of glutinosa origin then it will not grow from seed anyway.
Beware of the stickiness of the balsamifera. Impossible to remove from
clothes without petrol and annoying on hands etc. Every little piece
roots
with abandom and grows rapidly.
I have a Populus lasiocarpus [originally from Westonbirt] with
leaves
so large that rhubarb blushes.~~~~~~~~~~~ My father once said that he had
told me a million times not to exaggerate~~and then gave me a red ear for
laughing. I don't think he ever saw the funny side.!
Best Wishes Brian.



--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

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from "Brian" --- 'flayb' to respond contains these words:


"Sacha" wrote in message
id...
Following Janet's recommendation of this tree, I'm very pleased to say
that
I have found one at the Duchy nursery in Cornwall, which also supplied us
with some Populus balsamifera. Very satisfactory result! And I *think*
I've
found a source of Acer Coonara Pygmy - fingers crossed!
Our local branch of Morrisons, in Totnes, has some Alders planted in the
car
park and one, in particular, has enormously long catkins - every year I
promise myself that I'll try to get some seeds from it and this year I
really must kick myself to remember to do it!
~~~~~~~~
Alnus is very variable from seed. Almost perverseley so. Much better to
try for a graft or bud. [Have never tried cuttings] If the Morrison
specimen is of glutinosa origin then it will not grow from seed anyway.
Beware of the stickiness of the balsamifera. Impossible to remove from
clothes without petrol and annoying on hands etc. Every little piece roots
with abandom and grows rapidly.



I was surprised that you reckoned that seed from Alnus glutinosa
wouldn't succeed as I have at least ten trees which I grew happily from
seed without realising I was doing anything which shouldn't work!
Janet G

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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The message
from Sacha contains these words:

Our local branch of Morrisons, in Totnes, has some Alders planted in the
car
park and one, in particular, has enormously long catkins - every year I
promise myself that I'll try to get some seeds from it and this year I
really must kick myself to remember to do it!

If you do, you will need to inoculate the seed-tray with soil taken
from beneath an alder around its roots.
Alder seeds will only germinate in soil which contains the right
bio-whatsits. I'm hoping David P can supply the right explanation :-)



Janet

The Court heard how the woman, who would only identify herself as S, fell
onto the bonnet of a car from the branch of a tree.
She failed to explain why she had a wheelbarrow full of soil excavated from
the base of the tree but was heard to mutter bio-whatsits .
The case was adjourned pending psychiatric reports.

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Snip.
I was surprised that you reckoned that seed from Alnus glutinosa
wouldn't succeed as I have at least ten trees which I grew happily from
seed without realising I was doing anything which shouldn't work!
Janet G
~~~~~
You are quite correct. I was thinking in terms of the named vars. that
I have tried and failed. Laciniata & Imperialis etc.
Best Wishes Brian.

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from Sacha contains these words:

Our local branch of Morrisons, in Totnes, has some Alders planted in the
car
park and one, in particular, has enormously long catkins - every year I
promise myself that I'll try to get some seeds from it and this year I
really must kick myself to remember to do it!

If you do, you will need to inoculate the seed-tray with soil taken
from beneath an alder around its roots.
Alder seeds will only germinate in soil which contains the right
bio-whatsits. I'm hoping David P can supply the right explanation :-)
Janet.
~~~~~~~~
This inoculant is only really necessary in boggy conditions. Normal
seed compost suffices otherwise for germination and growth. The symbiotic
fungus [miccorhiza] would help in difficult situations.
Best Wishes Brian.

On 11/3/06 20:58, in article ,
"Brian" --- 'flayb' to respond wrote:


"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from Sacha contains these words:

Our local branch of Morrisons, in Totnes, has some Alders planted in the
car
park and one, in particular, has enormously long catkins - every year I
promise myself that I'll try to get some seeds from it and this year I
really must kick myself to remember to do it!

If you do, you will need to inoculate the seed-tray with soil taken
from beneath an alder around its roots.
Alder seeds will only germinate in soil which contains the right
bio-whatsits. I'm hoping David P can supply the right explanation :-)
Janet.
~~~~~~~~
This inoculant is only really necessary in boggy conditions. Normal
seed compost suffices otherwise for germination and growth. The symbiotic
fungus [miccorhiza] would help in difficult situations.
Best Wishes Brian.

My thanks to you and to Janet! I had no idea of any of this and while it's
very interesting, it also sounds a bit daunting. I have a strong feeling
that if I start scratching around in the earth beneath trees in Morrison's
car park, men in white coats will arrive pretty sharpish! ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

Hi Sacha,

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:13:47 +0000
Sacha wrote:

Following Janet's recommendation of this tree, I'm very pleased to say that
I have found one at the Duchy nursery in Cornwall, which also supplied us
with some Populus balsamifera. Very satisfactory result! And I *think* I've
found a source of Acer Coonara Pygmy - fingers crossed!

Meant to reply to the earlier thread. There's a pretty variation
on A. rubra: A. rubra f. pinnatisecta. Just slightly smaller, and
the leaves quite deeply incised with pointed lobes. Very pretty
effect. Might be nice to mix one in a copse.

Would it be indiscreet to ask what your source for Coonara
Pygmy is? As you can probably guess I'm forever trying to
find good sources for Acers.

-E
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Emery Davis
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On 12/3/06 10:29, in article , "Emery
Davis" wrote:

Hi Sacha,

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:13:47 +0000
Sacha wrote:

Following Janet's recommendation of this tree, I'm very pleased to say that
I have found one at the Duchy nursery in Cornwall, which also supplied us
with some Populus balsamifera. Very satisfactory result! And I *think* I've
found a source of Acer Coonara Pygmy - fingers crossed!

Meant to reply to the earlier thread. There's a pretty variation
on A. rubra: A. rubra f. pinnatisecta. Just slightly smaller, and
the leaves quite deeply incised with pointed lobes. Very pretty
effect. Might be nice to mix one in a copse.

Thank you. I'll mention that one to Ray. We've found a place for the Alnus
rubra that is not where we had intended but will mean that it's more easily
seen from the house.

Would it be indiscreet to ask what your source for Coonara
Pygmy is? As you can probably guess I'm forever trying to
find good sources for Acers.

No problem - the reason I didn't type it in before is that I was upstairs
and the piece of paper was downstairs!
I have found the following: THE BODWEN NURSERY
Pothole St Austell Cornwall PL26 7DW
E-mail: Tel: 01726 883855 Fax: 0870 130 6028
and the Duchy gave us:
Mallet Court Nursery, Taunton, Somerset 01823 481493
and
PMA Plant Specialities, Taunton, Somerset. 01823 480774
I haven't tried any of them except Mallet Court who haven't replied.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

On 12/3/06 11:19, in article ,
"Dave Poole" wrote:

Brian wrote:

This inoculant is only really necessary in boggy conditions. Normal
seed compost suffices otherwise for germination and growth. The symbiotic
fungus [miccorhiza] would help in difficult situations.

I wasn't paying attention - yes, the addition of mycorrhizal fungi is
only advantageous where soil nutrients are low and in any case, it
does not significantly improve seed germination.

Rinse and soak the seed overnight, let it drain thoroughly then mix
with moist, crushed grit, sand, perlite or any fine, inert ballast.
Seal in a container/plastic bag, place in the bottom of a fridge (max
temp should be no more than 4 - 5C ) for 4 - 6 weeks. Sow in a
prepared bed, covering the seed mixture very lightly. Make sure the
bed remains moist at all times and germination usually follows within
14 - 28 days.


Many thanks to you all - talk about learning something every day! I'll try
to remember to get some seed and give it a try. What is interesting to me
(because I know so little about these trees) is that while they appear to be
the same variety, some have very much longer catkins than others - it really
is a marked difference. Any idea why that would be?
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:13:08 +0000
Sacha wrote:

On 12/3/06 10:29, in article , "Emery
Davis" wrote:

Hi Sacha,

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:13:47 +0000
Sacha wrote:

[]
Would it be indiscreet to ask what your source for Coonara
Pygmy is? As you can probably guess I'm forever trying to
find good sources for Acers.

No problem - the reason I didn't type it in before is that I was upstairs
and the piece of paper was downstairs!
I have found the following: THE BODWEN NURSERY
Pothole St Austell Cornwall PL26 7DW
E-mail: Tel: 01726 883855 Fax: 0870 130 6028
and the Duchy gave us:
Mallet Court Nursery, Taunton, Somerset 01823 481493
and
PMA Plant Specialities, Taunton, Somerset. 01823 480774
I haven't tried any of them except Mallet Court who haven't replied.

Thanks! I will explore these. I think I mentioned Mallet Court
before. I've had very good quality from them in the past, and
in fact I need to call. Hopefully I will get my A. morrinosense
(rubescens) 'Millicent' this year.

The owner is maple expert James G. S. Harris. He mentioned
last year they were no longer doing their own grafting, and
there were some delays in putting the "outsourced" system
in place, I believe.

-E
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On 12/3/06 14:00, in article , "Emery
Davis" wrote:



I think I mentioned Mallet Court
before. I've had very good quality from them in the past, and
in fact I need to call. Hopefully I will get my A. morrinosense
(rubescens) 'Millicent' this year.

Yes, you did mention them and I tried them with no response. I'll try
emailing them again, I think. Or I'll ring them tomorrow.

The owner is maple expert James G. S. Harris. He mentioned
last year they were no longer doing their own grafting, and
there were some delays in putting the "outsourced" system
in place, I believe.

Have you got an Acer called 'Autumn Glory'? I've just read about it on the
PMA site (which is Junkers Nursery and is reconstructing its web site which
might be why it didn't load properly) and it says it was derived from those
at The Garden House, Buckland Monachorum. The description of its autumn
coloration is absolutely mouth watering!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:45:03 +0000
Sacha wrote:

On 12/3/06 14:00, in article , "Emery
Davis" wrote:
[]
in fact I need to call. Hopefully I will get my A. morrinosense
_morrisonense_, whoops.

(rubescens) 'Millicent' this year.

Yes, you did mention them and I tried them with no response. I'll try
emailing them again, I think. Or I'll ring them tomorrow.


They're not very good with email. I can give you (off-group)
an email for Mr. Harris, but I can't guarantee you'll get
a very quick response! Best to call.

[]
Have you got an Acer called 'Autumn Glory'? I've just read about it on the
PMA site (which is Junkers Nursery and is reconstructing its web site which
might be why it didn't load properly) and it says it was derived from those
at The Garden House, Buckland Monachorum. The description of its autumn
coloration is absolutely mouth watering!

I don't. What species is it? I find two 'Autumn Glory' in the
literature, but one (palmatum) is from the Kalmthout Arboretum
in Belgium (and sounds less than spectacular), and the other
(rubrum) was selected from a tree in Ohio. The Junkers site
is not working for me at the mo.

-E
--
Emery Davis
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On 12/3/06 15:50, in article , "Emery
Davis" wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:45:03 +0000
Sacha wrote:

snip

[]
Have you got an Acer called 'Autumn Glory'? I've just read about it on the
PMA site (which is Junkers Nursery and is reconstructing its web site which
might be why it didn't load properly) and it says it was derived from those
at The Garden House, Buckland Monachorum. The description of its autumn
coloration is absolutely mouth watering!

I don't. What species is it? I find two 'Autumn Glory' in the
literature, but one (palmatum) is from the Kalmthout Arboretum
in Belgium (and sounds less than spectacular), and the other
(rubrum) was selected from a tree in Ohio. The Junkers site
is not working for me at the mo.

Here's the info from the web site. It suddenly loaded beautifully so
perhaps whatever 'it' was has been fixed in the last hour or so!
"ACER palmatum 'Autumn Glory'*
Derived from the handsome specimens at The Garden House, Buckland
Monochorum. Broad headed. Bronze tinted young growth becomes green in the
summer. The name gives away their raison d'être though - all manner of
colours can be seen, although my favourite stage has the leaves yellow with
a bright red edge. 3m
From £19.60"
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
)