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Flowers from Spain
I used to live in Spain and they had some beautiful flowers, purple in
colour, overhanging balconies etc. I used to see a lot of them all over. Does anyone know their name or if I can grow them in the UK South West. Thanks Amanda |
Flowers from Spain
On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 23:45:12 +0100, "Amanda Wilcox"
wrotc: I used to live in Spain and they had some beautiful flowers, purple in colour, overhanging balconies etc. I used to see a lot of them all over. Does anyone know their name or if I can grow them in the UK South West. Thanks Amanda Ummm. Bougainvillea? If it is, it is not - - to the best of ny knowledge frost hardy - but good for a conservatory. H. Grow a little garden |
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Amanda Wilcox wrote:
I used to live in Spain and they had some beautiful flowers, purple in colour, overhanging balconies etc. I used to see a lot of them all over. Does anyone know their name or if I can grow them in the UK South West. Thanks Amanda Was it a blue-purple perennial climber like morning glory? Then it's Ipomoea learii, now called I. indica. In the South West? I've never seen it there, but I certainly think it should be tried. It did survive on my south wall for several years - and I'm in Belgium, near Antwerp, much colder. It's available here and in the UK in some specialised nurseries. If you can't get it - it comes up very easily from cuttings, bring some over from Spain next time. Regards, Roger. -- Walk tall, walk straight, and look the world right into the eye. You're welcome to visit my gardening page: http://users.pandora.be/roger.van.loon/gardenp.htm |
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"Amanda Wilcox" wrote in message ... : I used to live in Spain and they had some beautiful flowers, purple in : colour, overhanging balconies etc. I used to see a lot of them all over. : Does anyone know their name or if I can grow them in the UK South West. : : Thanks Amanda : : Could be Morning Glory - one of the Ipomoeas (convolvulus). K |
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in article , Roger Van Loon at
wrote on 6/4/03 10:20 am: Amanda Wilcox wrote: I used to live in Spain and they had some beautiful flowers, purple in colour, overhanging balconies etc. I used to see a lot of them all over. Does anyone know their name or if I can grow them in the UK South West. Thanks Amanda Was it a blue-purple perennial climber like morning glory? Then it's Ipomoea learii, now called I. indica. In the South West? snip It's another thing we can put out in the summerin pots but must bring in for the winter. Again, in Torquay, they (meaning Daivd Poole!) can grow it out and leave it out but that's very close to the sea and in a walled garden. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
Flowers from Spain
"Amanda Wilcox" wrote in message ... I used to live in Spain and they had some beautiful flowers, purple in colour, overhanging balconies etc. I used to see a lot of them all over. Does anyone know their name or if I can grow them in the UK South West. Thanks Amanda Thanks to you all much appreciated. I shall now look them up. Thanks Amanda |
Flowers from Spain
"Amanda Wilcox" wrote in message ... I used to live in Spain and they had some beautiful flowers, purple in colour, overhanging balconies etc. I used to see a lot of them all over. Does anyone know their name or if I can grow them in the UK South West. Thanks Amanda Amanda, They could be bougainvillea, I have them in my garden, very invasive, the stems have horrible spikes, colours also orange and red, Saludos Roberto. |
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Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article , Amanda Wilcox wrote: I used to live in Spain and they had some beautiful flowers, purple in colour, overhanging balconies etc. I used to see a lot of them all over. Does anyone know their name or if I can grow them in the UK South West. Like a deep blue greater bindweed? If so, probably Ipomoea indica (also called several other names). It will overwinter happily with very little protection (mainly against the wet), and my guess is that it would grow outside on a sunny, warm wall. You need to keep only a pot or two over the winter, as it ramps away. (snip) Regards, Nick Maclaren. I think that's very good advice. I did cover it with a mulch and, for several years, it came up again happily from the ground - until there was a severe winter. If I can do that where I am, it's certainly possible in the UK South West. I'll be planting another one out this spring. Regards, Roger Van Loon. |
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"...Ipomoea indica..."
Thanks folks.now I have a name for the plant I brought back from Gran canaria. grew about 15 ft last year but no flowers, kept in 2 Gall pot. Any ideas? -- David Hill Abacus Nurseries www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk |
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in article , Roger Van Loon at
wrote on 7/4/03 10:29 pm: Nick Maclaren wrote: In article , Amanda Wilcox wrote: I used to live in Spain and they had some beautiful flowers, purple in colour, overhanging balconies etc. I used to see a lot of them all over. Does anyone know their name or if I can grow them in the UK South West. Like a deep blue greater bindweed? If so, probably Ipomoea indica (also called several other names). It will overwinter happily with very little protection (mainly against the wet), and my guess is that it would grow outside on a sunny, warm wall. You need to keep only a pot or two over the winter, as it ramps away. (snip) Regards, Nick Maclaren. I think that's very good advice. I did cover it with a mulch and, for several years, it came up again happily from the ground - until there was a severe winter. If I can do that where I am, it's certainly possible in the UK South West. I'll be planting another one out this spring. It would be a mistake for anyone in the SW of England to assume that would guarantee Ipomoea's safety, IMO. We live in the SW about 3 miles from Dartmoor and can't keep it outside. But David Poole who lives in Torquay, about 10 miles away, can. I kept it for one winter in a garden 3 miles from him, lost it in another. I have even lost it in a 'hard' winter in Jersey. One size does NOT fit all - even in the SW! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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in article , david at
wrote on 7/4/03 11:22 pm: "...Ipomoea indica..." Thanks folks.now I have a name for the plant I brought back from Gran canaria. grew about 15 ft last year but no flowers, kept in 2 Gall pot. Any ideas? It needs a LOT of sun. We grow ours in those Ali Baba style pots, keep them in one of the glasshouses until mid or late May and then bring them out. If we have a sunny spring, they do wonderfully, if we don't they sulk and flower reluctantly, if at all, much later in the summer. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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Sacha wrote:
in article , Roger Van Loon at wrote on 7/4/03 10:29 pm: Nick Maclaren wrote: In article , Amanda Wilcox wrote: I used to live in Spain and they had some beautiful flowers, purple in colour, overhanging balconies etc. I used to see a lot of them all over. Does anyone know their name or if I can grow them in the UK South West. Like a deep blue greater bindweed? If so, probably Ipomoea indica (also called several other names). It will overwinter happily with very little protection (mainly against the wet), and my guess is that it would grow outside on a sunny, warm wall. You need to keep only a pot or two over the winter, as it ramps away. (snip) Regards, Nick Maclaren. I think that's very good advice. I did cover it with a mulch and, for several years, it came up again happily from the ground - until there was a severe winter. If I can do that where I am, it's certainly possible in the UK South West. I'll be planting another one out this spring. It would be a mistake for anyone in the SW of England to assume that would guarantee Ipomoea's safety, IMO. We live in the SW about 3 miles from Dartmoor and can't keep it outside. But David Poole who lives in Torquay, about 10 miles away, can. I kept it for one winter in a garden 3 miles from him, lost it in another. I have even lost it in a 'hard' winter in Jersey. One size does NOT fit all - even in the SW! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk Well. With a plant that grows so fast and comes up so very easily from cuttings, what's wrong with trying a few of them outside? I agree that its safety may not be "guaranteed" - but if it does here like it did in the past, that's OK with me. A sunny south wall, a dry spot, and a thick mulch in autumn should give it a chance, even over here (near Antwerp, we had -11°C last winter). As Nick said, it may need some protection against winter wet. And I'll take some cuttings in autumn, for sure. Regards, Roger. -- Walk tall, walk straight, and look the world right into the eye. You're welcome to visit my gardening page: http://users.pandora.be/roger.van.loon/gardenp.htm |
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in article , Roger Van Loon at
wrote on 8/4/03 7:22 pm: Sacha wrote: snip It would be a mistake for anyone in the SW of England to assume that would guarantee Ipomoea's safety, IMO. We live in the SW about 3 miles from Dartmoor and can't keep it outside. But David Poole who lives in Torquay, about 10 miles away, can. I kept it for one winter in a garden 3 miles from him, lost it in another. I have even lost it in a 'hard' winter in Jersey. One size does NOT fit all - even in the SW! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk Well. With a plant that grows so fast and comes up so very easily from cuttings, what's wrong with trying a few of them outside? I agree that its safety may not be "guaranteed" - but if it does here like it did in the past, that's OK with me. A sunny south wall, a dry spot, and a thick mulch in autumn should give it a chance, even over here (near Antwerp, we had -11°C last winter). As Nick said, it may need some protection against winter wet. And I'll take some cuttings in autumn, for sure. By all means, if people want to take cuttings to ensure another year's produce, well and good. But I don't think we'd got into those realms up until now, or did I miss something? Tis is NOT the same as saying one can safely grow such a plant outside just because it's in the SW. Ipomoea will NOT be reliably hardy or even half-reliably hardy in all of the SW of England. And it needs a lot of sun hours to produce its best display. It isn't a question of 'may' need some protection against winter wet. It most certainly WILL. This is a plant that grows best in sharply drained conditions with a lot of daily sunshine. It seems clear to me that England rarely offers those conditions and especially not over winter. That said, if someone cares to make the experiment, taking cuttings as 'insurance', well indeed, why not give it a try? But nobody should be encouraged to believe that their original parent plant will survive a winter just because it's in the SW of England. Location, location, location. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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In article ,
Sacha wrote: By all means, if people want to take cuttings to ensure another year's produce, well and good. But I don't think we'd got into those realms up until now, or did I miss something? Tis is NOT the same as saying one can safely grow such a plant outside just because it's in the SW. Well, I may have been at fault. It certainly had naturalised at Trelowarren in an derelict greenhouse in a walled garden, but that must be about the most sheltered location in the UK outside Torquay! I did assume that people in the extreme south west could mimic those conditions if they actually try, though I would not regard Dartmoor as comparable to Helston. And I was assuming that such protection would involve some way of diverting the rain from the soil around the roots in winter. Ipomoea will NOT be reliably hardy or even half-reliably hardy in all of the SW of England. And it needs a lot of sun hours to produce its best display. It isn't a question of 'may' need some protection against winter wet. It most certainly WILL. This is a plant that grows best in sharply drained conditions with a lot of daily sunshine. It seems clear to me that England rarely offers those conditions and especially not over winter. That said, if someone cares to make the experiment, taking cuttings as 'insurance', well indeed, why not give it a try? But nobody should be encouraged to believe that their original parent plant will survive a winter just because it's in the SW of England. Location, location, location. Yes, that seems right. The derelict greenhouse gave it some reliably dry soil to overwinter in, even though there were panes missing in the roof. And, similarly, some extra warmth in the summer. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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in article , Nick Maclaren at
wrote on 8/4/03 11:01 pm: In article , Sacha wrote: By all means, if people want to take cuttings to ensure another year's produce, well and good. But I don't think we'd got into those realms up until now, or did I miss something? Tis is NOT the same as saying one can safely grow such a plant outside just because it's in the SW. Well, I may have been at fault. It certainly had naturalised at Trelowarren in an derelict greenhouse in a walled garden, but that must be about the most sheltered location in the UK outside Torquay! Even Cornwall can have its cold spots! But the conditions you describe do sound very sheltered and ideal. I did assume that people in the extreme south west could mimic those conditions if they actually try, though I would not regard Dartmoor as comparable to Helston. And I was assuming that such protection would involve some way of diverting the rain from the soil around the roots in winter. That may be true of areas closest to the sea and keeping cold water from standing on the roots would be a must, IMO. But while it's worth a try if a plant isn't too expensive, it's a bit more fiddly than quite a few people might want to attempt. All too easy to forget the diverting the rainwater etc. Ipomoea will NOT be reliably hardy or even half-reliably hardy in all of the SW of England. And it needs a lot of sun hours to produce its best display. It isn't a question of 'may' need some protection against winter wet. It most certainly WILL. This is a plant that grows best in sharply drained conditions with a lot of daily sunshine. It seems clear to me that England rarely offers those conditions and especially not over winter. That said, if someone cares to make the experiment, taking cuttings as 'insurance', well indeed, why not give it a try? But nobody should be encouraged to believe that their original parent plant will survive a winter just because it's in the SW of England. Location, location, location. Yes, that seems right. The derelict greenhouse gave it some reliably dry soil to overwinter in, even though there were panes missing in the roof. And, similarly, some extra warmth in the summer. Absolutely. It sounds as if that particular plant found the ideal spot! -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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Sacha wrote in
: Well, I may have been at fault. It certainly had naturalised at Trelowarren in an derelict greenhouse in a walled garden, but that must be about the most sheltered location in the UK outside Torquay! Even Cornwall can have its cold spots! But the conditions you describe do sound very sheltered and ideal. Well, my bit of Cornwall is not the warmest, but I'm now thinking of trying this in my greenhouse. I have a soil bed under my greenhouse staging that I don't tend to grow anything in because it's a bit difficult to get at and shaded by the staging. There is a corner broken off one of the panes down there, so I'm thinking - plant into the shaded bed under the staging, and train the shoots out through the little gap into the outside world, where there is a sunny berberis hedge it can ramble over. It's not a heated greenhouse though, so I guess I will need to take cuttings each year and overwinter inside, if I try this. Any obvious holes in this idea that I have not spotted? I have grown annual purple ipomoeas in that greenhouse and they seed themselves about in there. But I've decided it's time for a change because I've grown them from seed for about 6 years now, and the flowers are starting to get noticeably smaller with each new generation now. Victoria |
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in article , Victoria Clare
at wrote on 9/4/03 10:45 am: Sacha wrote in : Even Cornwall can have its cold spots! But the conditions you describe do sound very sheltered and ideal. Well, my bit of Cornwall is not the warmest, but I'm now thinking of trying this in my greenhouse. I have a soil bed under my greenhouse staging that I don't tend to grow anything in because it's a bit difficult to get at and shaded by the staging. There is a corner broken off one of the panes down there, so I'm thinking - plant into the shaded bed under the staging, and train the shoots out through the little gap into the outside world, where there is a sunny berberis hedge it can ramble over. It's not a heated greenhouse though, so I guess I will need to take cuttings each year and overwinter inside, if I try this. Any obvious holes in this idea that I have not spotted? Sounds good to me but yes, if it's not heated at all, I think you'll have to take cuttings. The house ours are kept in is kept just above freezing over the winter. You could always experiment with one of your cuttings outside over winter, once it's a big grown up plant! snip -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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