Composting bins - do they work
 

Thinking of getting one - local council is offering them quite cheap.
The sort that the compost just drops out of the bottom flap.

I would have to stand it on concrete floor and my garden is v.small
(4.5m x 4.5m).

I cannot see how they can work well because how does the air get to it??

Composting bins - do they work
 

they sell additional bases for them that let the air in . ALthough
it's better to have them on top of dirt so worms get get in to it

On 18 Mar 2006 05:17:17 -0800, "yitzak"
wrote:

Thinking of getting one - local council is offering them quite cheap.
The sort that the compost just drops out of the bottom flap.

I would have to stand it on concrete floor and my garden is v.small
(4.5m x 4.5m).

I cannot see how they can work well because how does the air get to it??

Composting bins - do they work
 

"yitzak" wrote in news:1142687837.457159.15500
@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Thinking of getting one - local council is offering them quite cheap.
The sort that the compost just drops out of the bottom flap.

I would have to stand it on concrete floor and my garden is v.small
(4.5m x 4.5m).

I cannot see how they can work well because how does the air get to it??

"Anaerobic piles will tend to have more likelihood to
have an overabundance of nitrogen...."

http://www.rivenrock.com/composttypes.htm

Composting bins - do they work
 

yitzak writes
Thinking of getting one - local council is offering them quite cheap.
The sort that the compost just drops out of the bottom flap.

I would have to stand it on concrete floor and my garden is v.small
(4.5m x 4.5m).

I cannot see how they can work well because how does the air get to it??

There will be plenty of air in amongst the stuff you put in. It's only
when it's very densely packed that all the air is squeezed out of it.
--
Kay

Composting bins - do they work
 

They are very slow compared to a normal compost heap,

why? is it because the sides are covered?
I have inherited a couple and have filled one (in layers of different
stuff). How long should I leave it before eI get it all out and remix it?

--
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)

Composting bins - do they work
 

K wrote:
yitzak writes
Thinking of getting one - local council is offering them quite cheap.
The sort that the compost just drops out of the bottom flap.
I would have to stand it on concrete floor and my garden is v.small
(4.5m x 4.5m).
I cannot see how they can work well because how does the air get to it??

There will be plenty of air in amongst the stuff you put in. It's only
when it's very densely packed that all the air is squeezed out of it.

The trick is to diversify the stuff you put in too: grass clips, ash,
veg stuff, cardboard, leaves, but the later tend to sludge a bit if
packed in one layer. Ideally having another box for the leaves is great
(or plastic bags which I often forget but when found is a real treat.
Mix the lot often and ask a boy in your family (not you Kay but the OP
;o) to wee in it ...

Can't hardly type - my fingers are still numb ... but the sun came out
today and boy was it warm on my back :o) Ribes (white and red) are
flowering before the daffs and tulips !?!

Composting bins - do they work
 

"H Ryder" wrote in message
...
They are very slow compared to a normal compost heap,

why? is it because the sides are covered?
I have inherited a couple and have filled one (in layers of different
stuff). How long should I leave it before eI get it all out and remix it?

--
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)



They do not work as well as a normal traditional bin because
the size is not optimal.The biggest plastic bins are about 300L and the
optimal size for a heap is 1000L. min. For this reason they do not heat up
as fast or retain heat as well as the conventional bins. In addition the
thin plastic is not as good as solid planks in term of retaining heat.
I do not think there is enough air penetration in the plastic bins, unless
you have a very loose mix.
Give it a good mix every few months or if your lazy like me just leave it
for as long as it takes.
Do not be impatient to obtain the compost. If it's ready in six months count
yourself lucky.

Composting bins - do they work
 

Severn trent water are doing a very good offer at the moment, on these, also
water butt kits at reduced prices
http://www.s****er.co.uk/server.php?show=nav.5655

I havent priced these up anywherte else yet to compare prices.
regards
Cineman

"yitzak" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thinking of getting one - local council is offering them quite cheap.
The sort that the compost just drops out of the bottom flap.

I would have to stand it on concrete floor and my garden is v.small
(4.5m x 4.5m).

I cannot see how they can work well because how does the air get to it??

I am not a massive fan of these plastic compost bins as they dont let air or worms in.

The best compost heap I own is made out of 4 pallets. Each pallet makes one side of the compost heap, the front one has been cut down to allow easy access to the front.

Then I have used old carpet to cover the top.

The worms get in from the bottom, the air gets in from the side, the heat is kept in by the carpet and the moisture is also kept at an optimal level by the carpet.

It is also easy to turn the compost every now and again with a garden fork.

Now how can you get all this with the free council compost heap, but if you arn't a dedicted gardener then the free composters are a step closer to recycling.

Composting bins - do they work
 

I have one that was free from the council and it used to be on
concrete, and I did get some compost after about a year. I did mix the
stuff going in and put in a fair amount of cardboard.

Now we have had the bed expanded and the bin goes on the soil, and the
compost is looking a bit better after just 4 or 5 months, and winter
ones at that. And there are worms milling around the top - I'm
assuming they are hanging out in the warm bit round the rim!

I have tried opening the flap to get the stuff out but whoever said
that is right, it is a nonstarter. I don't have anywhere else to put it
so I lift it up about a foot at one side, scrape out a bucket full or
more, and put it back. If I need more just then I do the same the
other side.

We use our receipts for kindling...

Katie

Composting bins - do they work
 

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:26:07 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:


I'm currently using one of our free plastic compost bins as a rhubarb
forcer..just the job!

Janet

You bully
Forcing the poor rhubarb to do anything

Composting bins - do they work
 

"The Invalid" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:54:46 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from Dave the exTrailer contains these words:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:26:07 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:


I'm currently using one of our free plastic compost bins as a
rhubarb
forcer..just the job!


You bully
Forcing the poor rhubarb to do anything

You forgot to accuse me of rhubarb stalks, and of forcing rhubarb to
apologise.
Do try harder, the standard of trolling on this newsgroup is just not
what it used to be.

Janet

I think you need a humour transplant


While you clearly carry your Donor Card with you, wherever you go.

You don't dress up in funny clothes as well, by any chance do you ?



michael adams

....

Composting bins - do they work
 

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:54:46 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from Dave the exTrailer contains these words:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:26:07 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:


I'm currently using one of our free plastic compost bins as a rhubarb
forcer..just the job!


You bully
Forcing the poor rhubarb to do anything

You forgot to accuse me of rhubarb stalks, and of forcing rhubarb to
apologise.
Do try harder, the standard of trolling on this newsgroup is just not
what it used to be.

Janet

Im sorry. I assumed you were human and posessed a sense of humour but
now I realise my mistake. You must be neither human or have a sense of
humour.

Oh sorry, you're a woman, that explains it :))

Composting bins - do they work
 

"Dave the exTrailer" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:54:46 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from Dave the exTrailer contains these words:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:26:07 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:


I'm currently using one of our free plastic compost bins as a
rhubarb
forcer..just the job!


You bully
Forcing the poor rhubarb to do anything

You forgot to accuse me of rhubarb stalks, and of forcing rhubarb to
apologise.
Do try harder, the standard of trolling on this newsgroup is just not
what it used to be.

Janet

Im sorry. I assumed you were human and posessed a sense of humour but
now I realise my mistake. You must be neither human or have a sense of
humour.

Oh sorry, you're a woman, that explains it :))

....

Or perhaps like many other people, Janet will have heard around
2000 times before.

It's a GQT standard, guaranteed to get the audience rolling
in the aisles.

Except they're being told to laugh, by floor managers holding
up placards.



hth

michael adams

....

Composting bins - do they work
 

"Dave the exTrailer" wrote in message
...

Im sorry. I assumed you were human and posessed a sense of humour but
now I realise my mistake. You must be neither human or have a sense of
humour.

Oh sorry, you're a woman, that explains it :))


Oh and by the way, for your information, putting an emiticon at
the end of a post, in no way excuses a personal attack on another
poster, based on little more than your own evident stupidity. i.e.
Your total failure to realise, that due to its total lack of
originality, your little "joke" about forcing was never ever very
funny to start with. And probably hasn't been since, IIRR,
the 16th century, when the practice was first introduced.

An apology is the least that might be expected in such circumstances
IMHO.


michael adams

....

Composting bins - do they work
 

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:15:58 -0000, "michael adams"
wrote:


"The Invalid" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:54:46 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from Dave the exTrailer contains these words:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:26:07 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:


I'm currently using one of our free plastic compost bins as a
rhubarb
forcer..just the job!


You bully
Forcing the poor rhubarb to do anything

You forgot to accuse me of rhubarb stalks, and of forcing rhubarb to
apologise.
Do try harder, the standard of trolling on this newsgroup is just not
what it used to be.

Janet

I think you need a humour transplant


While you clearly carry your Donor Card with you, wherever you go.

You don't dress up in funny clothes as well, by any chance do you ?

michael adams

My son thinks so

Composting bins - do they work
 

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:40:19 -0000, "michael adams"
wrote:


"Dave the exTrailer" wrote in message
.. .

Im sorry. I assumed you were human and posessed a sense of humour but
now I realise my mistake. You must be neither human or have a sense of
humour.

Oh sorry, you're a woman, that explains it :))


Oh and by the way, for your information, putting an emiticon at
the end of a post, in no way excuses a personal attack on another
poster, based on little more than your own evident stupidity. i.e.
Your total failure to realise, that due to its total lack of
originality, your little "joke" about forcing was never ever very
funny to start with. And probably hasn't been since, IIRR,
the 16th century, when the practice was first introduced.

An apology is the least that might be expected in such circumstances
IMHO.

I accept your apology

Composting bins - do they work
 

"Dave the exTrailer" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:15:58 -0000, "michael adams"
wrote:


"The Invalid" wrote in message
.. .

You forgot to accuse me of rhubarb stalks, and of forcing rhubarb to
apologise.
Do try harder, the standard of trolling on this newsgroup is just
not
what it used to be.

Janet

I think you need a humour transplant


While you clearly carry your Donor Card with you, wherever you go.

You don't dress up in funny clothes as well, by any chance do you ?

michael adams

My son thinks so


That's very interesting Dave, so you post under two different names then
do you ? Just so as to be able to mount two handed attacks on Janet ?

"Dave the exTrailer" and "The Invalid"

And just because Janet didn't laugh at one of your "jokes"

How very noble and sporting of you there, Dave.

Or did you simply make a mistake, and reply to the wrong post,
which I addressed to The Invalid ?

If you weren't quite so stupid, you might even have pulled it off.

"Both of you" posting through Individual on exactly the same build
of Forte Agent, simply in order to launch the same sort of personal
attacks within an hour of one another.

Dave -

X-Trace: individual.net 2jEF65Fr8XRtCqE88MtctguJ8wOcYyJW4sCqrDEdDwcKQ2ViO5
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)

Invalid

X-Trace: individual.net uNzHV39coC2wJhSvN/qdrAL6wvQjO6A6GjfgoUaKT2oF2bHTit
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)


What's the matter Dave, too much of a coward to post under your
own name or something ?




michael adams

....

accept your apology
 

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:09:40 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from Dave the exTrailer contains these words:

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:54:46 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:

The message
from Dave the exTrailer contains these words:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:26:07 GMT, Janet Baraclough
wrote:


I'm currently using one of our free plastic compost bins as a rhubarb
forcer..just the job!


You bully
Forcing the poor rhubarb to do anything

You forgot to accuse me of rhubarb stalks, and of forcing rhubarb to
apologise.
Do try harder, the standard of trolling on this newsgroup is just not
what it used to be.

Janet

Im sorry. I assumed you were human and posessed a sense of humour but
now I realise my mistake.

My fault entirely; I forgot to type in multiple smilies and hold up a
big card saying "Cue to anaemic people; larf now".

Janet


I accept your apology

Composting bins - do they work
 

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:44:49 -0000, "michael adams"
wrote:


"Dave the exTrailer" wrote in message
.. .

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:15:58 -0000, "michael adams"
wrote:


"The Invalid" wrote in message
.. .

You forgot to accuse me of rhubarb stalks, and of forcing rhubarb to
apologise.
Do try harder, the standard of trolling on this newsgroup is just
not
what it used to be.

Janet

I think you need a humour transplant


While you clearly carry your Donor Card with you, wherever you go.

You don't dress up in funny clothes as well, by any chance do you ?

michael adams

My son thinks so


That's very interesting Dave, so you post under two different names then
do you ? Just so as to be able to mount two handed attacks on Janet ?

"Dave the exTrailer" and "The Invalid"

And just because Janet didn't laugh at one of your "jokes"

How very noble and sporting of you there, Dave.

Or did you simply make a mistake, and reply to the wrong post,
which I addressed to The Invalid ?

I was making a comment or am I not allowed to do that in this group?


If you weren't quite so stupid, you might even have pulled it off.

"Both of you" posting through Individual on exactly the same build
of Forte Agent, simply in order to launch the same sort of personal
attacks within an hour of one another.

Dave -


Wow thats spooky isnt it.
I wonder how many people are using the same version of agent and also
Individual net

Have you checked under your ned lately for terrorists



What's the matter Dave, too much of a coward to post under your
own name or something ?

Grow up you halfwit

Composting bins - do they work
 

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:44:49 -0000, "michael adams"
wrote:


"Both of you" posting through Individual on exactly the same build
of Forte Agent, simply in order to launch the same sort of personal
attacks within an hour of one another.


So are we to assume that everyone that posts with Outlook and using
individual net are one and the same, na,ely you?
Do you want me to point out everyone thats using the same build of
Outlook and using Individual net. Bloody hell your life must be so
sad.

Are you happy walking around with your thumb constantly up your
backside?. Then again I supose its better than banging your head
against a brickwall like you seem to do all the time.

Its no wonder this group gets spammed and mass mailed. Its intolerant
dickheads like you that make this group a pain.

Thank heavens for the other users who are adult enough and have a
reasonable sense of humour.

Now I'll pop you into the killfile so you rants wont bother me
anymore.

Have a nice life

Composting bins - do they work
 

Dave the exTrailer writes

. Its intolerant
dickheads like you that make this group a pain.

Well, from my perspective it's crude language and deliberate
offensiveness that makes this group a pain.

Still, that's easily solved.
--
Kay

Composting bins - do they work
 

"Dave the exTrailer" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:44:49 -0000, "michael adams"
wrote:


"Dave the exTrailer" wrote in message
.. .

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:15:58 -0000, "michael adams"
wrote:


"The Invalid" wrote in message
.. .

You forgot to accuse me of rhubarb stalks, and of forcing rhubarb
to
apologise.
Do try harder, the standard of trolling on this newsgroup is just
not
what it used to be.

Janet

I think you need a humour transplant


While you clearly carry your Donor Card with you, wherever you go.

You don't dress up in funny clothes as well, by any chance do you ?

michael adams

My son thinks so


That's very interesting Dave, so you post under two different names then
do you ? Just so as to be able to mount two handed attacks on Janet ?

"Dave the exTrailer" and "The Invalid"

And just because Janet didn't laugh at one of your "jokes"

How very noble and sporting of you there, Dave.

Or did you simply make a mistake, and reply to the wrong post,
which I addressed to The Invalid ?

I was making a comment or am I not allowed to do that in this group?


If you weren't quite so stupid, you might even have pulled it off.

"Both of you" posting through Individual on exactly the same build
of Forte Agent, simply in order to launch the same sort of personal
attacks within an hour of one another.

Dave -


Wow thats spooky isnt it.
I wonder how many people are using the same version of agent and also
Individual net

....

So you're weren't posting under two different nyms?

So why did you answer a question in a post, which I'd clearly
addressed to somebody else ?

What made you think it had anything to do with you?

....


Have you checked under your ned lately for terrorists



....

No need.

It's much more fun outing humourless incompetents like you on
NewsGroups.

But only when as a result, they make themselves particularly
objectionable.

Otherwise, you of course have every right to be as humourless
and incompetent as you wish.

....


What's the matter Dave, too much of a coward to post under your
own name or something ?

Grow up you halfwit


....

That's rich, coming from someone already hiding his identity by posting
under one nym - as all mature adults posting on gardening NewsGroups will
want to do - quite naturally.

And then to cap it all, you decide to be clever by posting under
a sock*. Except you forgot yourself and replied to a question
directed to the sock, by mistake. You can't really get much
more stupid than that.

Truly priceless in fact.


michael adams

*sock puppet - when one poster is posting under more than one name
at the same time. The other names are his or her sock-puppets.


....

Composting bins - do they work
 

"Dave the exTrailer" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:44:49 -0000, "michael adams"
wrote:


"Both of you" posting through Individual on exactly the same build
of Forte Agent, simply in order to launch the same sort of personal
attacks within an hour of one another.


So are we to assume that everyone that posts with Outlook and using
individual net are one and the same, na,ely you?

....

No but then I don't run socks*. And I don't forget myself by replying
to questions directed at the sock as you just did.

*sock puppet - when one poster is posting under more than one name
at the same time. The other names are his or her sock-puppets.

I posted a question to "The Invalid" and you chose to answer it.

Or perhaps you've forgetten that little detail, eh?

....

Do you want me to point out everyone thats using the same build of
Outlook and using Individual net. Bloody hell your life must be so
sad.

....

No need.

I just concentrate on anyone answering questions directed at their
sock. But only when they're answering me.

You can't get much more stupid than that

....


Are you happy walking around with your thumb constantly up your
backside?. Then again I supose its better than banging your head
against a brickwall like you seem to do all the time.

....

No need.

I just concentrate on anyone answering questions directed at their
sock. But only when they're answer to me.

You can't get much more dumb than that.

....


Its no wonder this group gets spammed and mass mailed. Its intolerant
dickheads like you that make this group a pain.


....

Oh I see....intolerant dickheads....yes well...

"Dave the exTrailer" wrote in message
...

Im sorry. I assumed you were human and posessed a sense of humour but
now I realise my mistake. You must be neither human or have a sense of
humour.


....


Thank heavens for the other users who are adult enough and have a
reasonable sense of humour.

And if not....

Dave the exTrailer" wrote in message
...

Im sorry. I assumed you were human and posessed a sense of humour but
now I realise my mistake. You must be neither human or have a sense of
humour.



Now I'll pop you into the killfile so you rants wont bother me
anymore.

....

That's right Dave, you run and hide.

Obviously you're very good at dishing it out, but not so good at
taking it. Whichever name you choose to post under.

Shame you won't be able to see this post then, but there you go.

....


Have a nice life

....

And I'm sure you really mean that, as well.



michael adams

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