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I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil
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Old 24-03-2006, 11:34 AM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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"mrs-baggins" wrote in message
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I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any
experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to
grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for
years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil


I do not know any bamboo varieties by name but some will form dense
curtains/screens. Unfortunately, these ones do not know when to stop and
are very invasive and hard to control. One trick is to "contain" them by
mowing i.e. have lawn up to the edge of the screen and keep the grass cut.
The most likely explanation for the slow growth is the variety rather than
the soil but that is a guess as I have never grown any; they sound scary.

http://www.stambamboo.com/

These guys above have a famous bamboo nursery in Ireland and their web site
gives some info.



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Old 24-03-2006, 11:52 AM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any
experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to
grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for
years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil


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mrs-baggins


I have no experience of growing bamboos on clay-but I do know that it is
possible if you are prepared to improve the soil by addition of goodly
doses of organic matter.
Bamboos prefer a rich moist soil but will grow in most conditions. I am
referring to the standard hardy frost tolerant varieties of which there are
an increasing choice.
It is possible that the one plant you have already tried is a small/dwarf
variety----do you know which variety it is?


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"mrs-baggins" wrote in message
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I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any
experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to
grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for
years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil


I do not know any bamboo varieties by name but some will form dense
curtains/screens. Unfortunately, these ones do not know when to stop and
are very invasive and hard to control. One trick is to "contain" them by
mowing i.e. have lawn up to the edge of the screen and keep the grass cut.
The most likely explanation for the slow growth is the variety rather than
the soil but that is a guess as I have never grown any; they sound scary.

http://www.stambamboo.com/

These guys above have a famous bamboo nursery in Ireland and their web
site gives some info.



--
mrs-baggins

I am pretty certain stambamboo supply a lot of the UK stuff that is sold.
The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some varieties may
run but it does not happen overnight.
I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago which
have clumped up slightly.
I should be so lucky that they take off with a vengeance and make me rich.
I think Stam or some other big grower refers to the silly prices that these
plants command.



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Old 24-03-2006, 12:24 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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Rupert wrote:
I am pretty certain stambamboo supply a lot of the UK stuff that is
sold. The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some
varieties may run but it does not happen overnight.
I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago
which have clumped up slightly.
I should be so lucky that they take off with a vengeance and make me
rich. I think Stam or some other big grower refers to the silly
prices that these plants command.


Be VERY careful.

I have a japanese courtyard, in it i planted 1# Golden Bamboo, 1# Black
bamboo - both by repute clump forming.

For about 4/5 years they were very well behaved simply putting up new growth
tight up against the clump.

Then...... do you rember the very hot summer we had about 2/3 years ago.
Suddenly i had shoots appearing at every boundary and in gound feature
(reailway sleeper path) where the bamboo had run under the textile sheet
until hitting an obstructeion then goe up. From a 5m*4m area I took out more
than 30m length of runner as thick as my thumb.

A bit of research on the internet revealed that the golden in particular is
reagrde as a notorious runner in the hotter, southern states of the USA. The
hot summer and heat reaining walls had given it the conditions it liked and
it went for it with a vengance. Fortunately, with a tad of forsight i had
planted the golden close to a buried redundant concrete foundation between
me and the neighbours patio, other wise i would have had BIG problems.

pk




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"Rupert" wrote in message
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"Des Higgins" wrote in message
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"mrs-baggins" wrote in message
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I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any
experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to
grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for
years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil


I do not know any bamboo varieties by name but some will form dense
curtains/screens. Unfortunately, these ones do not know when to stop and
are very invasive and hard to control. One trick is to "contain" them by
mowing i.e. have lawn up to the edge of the screen and keep the grass
cut. The most likely explanation for the slow growth is the variety
rather than the soil but that is a guess as I have never grown any; they
sound scary.

http://www.stambamboo.com/

These guys above have a famous bamboo nursery in Ireland and their web
site gives some info.



--
mrs-baggins

I am pretty certain stambamboo supply a lot of the UK stuff that is sold.
The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some varieties
may run but it does not happen overnight.
I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago which
have clumped up slightly.


You will hear a rustling noise in the middle of the night and you will wake
up to find the curtains closed even though you thought you had left them
opened only to find that it is a wall of bamboo that has emerged overnight
and is blocking the light and that your car has disappeared and you will not
be able to open the back door or maybe I am exagerrating slightly.


I should be so lucky that they take off with a vengeance and make me rich.
I think Stam or some other big grower refers to the silly prices that
these plants command.





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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:12:27 +0000, mrs-baggins
wrote:


I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any
experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to
grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for
years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil



I also want to use bamboo as a screen but I thought I'd grow them in
large containers. Don't know how this will pan-out - especially given
that I know very little about gardening let alone growing bamboo!

Simon
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PigPOg wrote:
I also want to use bamboo as a screen but I thought I'd grow them in
large containers. Don't know how this will pan-out - especially given
that I know very little about gardening let alone growing bamboo!


There's nothing to it. If they go out of hand, just dig them out. I've
had bamboos and I've never bothered doing anything to them beside
removing the dead stems, ideal to start my fires with. This 'out of
control bamboos' is really annoying me. My friend has landscaped an
area in central Manchester with bamboos 12 years ago. The bamboos
haven't spread, nor did they grew up walls, suffocated people, or
jumped on passers by.

Bamboos in pots are more difficult because it is a container, and
containers dry off quicker and are prone to frost etc. Use a good
container, plastic preferably, it's lighter and easier to move around,
start well with a good drainage at the bottom, crocks, gravel and you
shouldn' t have any problem.

My cousin didn't touched hers for years and years and last year decided
to paint some of them like totems. They look brilliant )

Here something reassuring ...

http://www.d.lane.btinternet.co.uk/bamboo.htm
http://www.whatprice.co.uk/gardening...ng-bamboo.html

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"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
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The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some varieties
may
run but it does not happen overnight.
I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago which
have clumped up slightly.


But when the spread does start in older clumps, it can be extremely
difficult to control


Warning heeded. If it does not take off within a few more years I will blame
you.
Whilst on the subject of invasive weeds-what was the mystery weed you
enquired about- the sempervivum looking thingy?



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"Janet Baraclough" wrote
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from "Rupert" contains these words:

The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some
varieties may run but it does not happen overnight.
I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago
which have clumped up slightly.


But when the spread does start in older clumps, it can be extremely
difficult to control


Just as well this thread has come now. I was making a list of things I
could possibly plant in a relative's garden to screen a boundary wall.
Are there -any- varieties that are reliably non-invasive?

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Sue







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"PigPOg" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:12:27 +0000, mrs-baggins
wrote:


I know there are loads of variety of bamboos about but has anyone any
experience of growing bamboo on a clay soil? I would like a bamboo to
grow to about 3 m to use as screening but a small bamboo i have had for
years just hasnt grown at all and it may just be my clay soil



I also want to use bamboo as a screen but I thought I'd grow them in
large containers. Don't know how this will pan-out - especially given
that I know very little about gardening let alone growing bamboo!

Simon


Knowing very little about gardening and wanting to cultivate bamboo is a
good match.
They are not a difficult plant to cultivate. Pots are fine and give you the
advantage of the extra instant height and more choices of location.
Bamboo Root Barrier can be used if you are intending to plant one of the
very invasive species.




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"Janet Baraclough" wrote
The message
from "Rupert" contains these words:

The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some
varieties may run but it does not happen overnight.
I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago
which have clumped up slightly.


But when the spread does start in older clumps, it can be extremely
difficult to control


Just as well this thread has come now. I was making a list of things I
could possibly plant in a relative's garden to screen a boundary wall.
Are there -any- varieties that are reliably non-invasive?

--
Sue

What you need is a clump forming bamboo as against bamboo that spreads by
sending out long runners which fire up at a distance from the plant.
Fargesia murielae is one of the most popular because it is relatively well
behaved.

The only Bamboo I have the shows any signs of running is Sasa and I was
warned that this really is invasive and should be avoided. I am still
waiting with fear and trepidation:-)

This site gives a good explanation of the different habits of bamboo.
http://www.bamboosourcery.com/catalog.cfm?print=1









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La Puce wrote:
This 'out of
control bamboos' is really annoying me.


Why's that? Would you prefer people kept silence about experiences not in
accord with your own?

pk


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Rupert wrote:
I am pretty certain stambamboo supply a lot of the UK stuff that is
sold. The invasive bit really is overdone. In ideal conditions some
varieties may run but it does not happen overnight.
I have several so called invasive species planted about 6 years ago
which have clumped up slightly.
I should be so lucky that they take off with a vengeance and make me
rich. I think Stam or some other big grower refers to the silly
prices that these plants command.


Be VERY careful.

I have a japanese courtyard, in it i planted 1# Golden Bamboo, 1# Black
bamboo - both by repute clump forming.

For about 4/5 years they were very well behaved simply putting up new
growth tight up against the clump.

Then...... do you rember the very hot summer we had about 2/3 years ago.
Suddenly i had shoots appearing at every boundary and in gound feature
(reailway sleeper path) where the bamboo had run under the textile sheet
until hitting an obstructeion then goe up. From a 5m*4m area I took out
more than 30m length of runner as thick as my thumb.

A bit of research on the internet revealed that the golden in particular
is reagrde as a notorious runner in the hotter, southern states of the
USA. The hot summer and heat reaining walls had given it the conditions it
liked and it went for it with a vengance. Fortunately, with a tad of
forsight i had planted the golden close to a buried redundant concrete
foundation between me and the neighbours patio, other wise i would have
had BIG problems.

pk

I do vaguely remember that summer--seems decades ago .
Message understood. I guess you gave them the absolute best growing
conditions by providing a cool moist root run.
Do you know the names of those two varieties? Phyllostachys aurea something?
and Phlyllostachys nigra perhaps.


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I should be so lucky that they take off with a vengeance and make me rich.

I imagine that someone once said the same thing about Japanese Knot Weed
; - )

--
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)



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