Judas Tree (Cercis siliquastrum)
 

Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get? They
seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)

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Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)

Judas Tree (Cercis siliquastrum)
 

H Ryder wrote:
Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get? They
seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)

Apparently, they can get to 30' but goodness knows how long that
takes! They like deep, fertile soil and full sun, so your 'some sun'
and clay probably won't hack it. ;-(
My own experience of these has been disappointing, I must admit, so I'm
probably a bit biased but I think they're more 'talk' than 'action', if
you see what I mean!
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk

Judas Tree (Cercis siliquastrum)
 

Sacha writes

H Ryder wrote:
Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get? They
seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)

Apparently, they can get to 30' but goodness knows how long that
takes!

Less than 25 years to get to about 20ft from my father's experience.
They tend to lean and spread with low branches, so have quite a large
'footprint' - not the sort of tree which you walk around under.

They like deep, fertile soil and full sun, so your 'some sun'
and clay probably won't hack it. ;-(

My father's was in an orchard on clay, though probably with more sun
than your north facing garden will get.


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Kay

Judas Tree (Cercis siliquastrum)
 

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:07:05 +0100
Janet Baraclough wrote:

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from "H Ryder" contains these words:

Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get? They
seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)

I have the purple-leafed form called Forest Pansy which is gorgeous,
but quite slow growing so far..about 6" per year. I'm growing that in
full sun for best colour.


Isn't that a Cercis canadensis cultivar? Actually (although I know
it's a pretty plant) that's what I'm hoping I _don't_ have, as I don't
need another reddish bush where I've put it. Should find out soon! :)

I'm always a bit embarrassed when I buy these "generic" plants
on impulse, then try to figure it out afterwards...

-E
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Emery Davis wrote:
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:07:05 +0100
Janet Baraclough wrote:

The message
from "H Ryder" contains these words:

Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get?They
seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)

I have the purple-leafed form called Forest Pansy which is gorgeous,
but quite slow growing so far..about 6" per year. I'm growing that in
full sun for best colour.


Isn't that a Cercis canadensis cultivar? Actually (although I know
it's a pretty plant) that's what I'm hoping I _don't_ have, as I don't
need another reddish bush where I've put it. Should find out soon! :)

I'm always a bit embarrassed when I buy these "generic" plants
on impulse, then try to figure it out afterwards...

If you have Forest Pansy and decide you don't want it, make sure you
sell it for a good price!! It's highly desirable and some nurseries
are selling it for £45.00 and more. Would that be an impulse buy for
you? ;-)
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

Judas Tree (Cercis siliquastrum)
 

On 3 Apr 2006 15:07:00 -0700
"Sacha" wrote:


Emery Davis wrote:
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:07:05 +0100
Janet Baraclough wrote:

The message
from "H Ryder" contains these words:

Has anyone got experience of growing this? I want it for a north facing
front garden which gets some sun and is on clay. How big do they get? They
seem quite expensive so wanted o check first :)

I have the purple-leafed form called Forest Pansy which is gorgeous,
but quite slow growing so far..about 6" per year. I'm growing that in
full sun for best colour.


Isn't that a Cercis canadensis cultivar? Actually (although I know
it's a pretty plant) that's what I'm hoping I _don't_ have, as I don't
need another reddish bush where I've put it. Should find out soon! :)

I'm always a bit embarrassed when I buy these "generic" plants
on impulse, then try to figure it out afterwards...

If you have Forest Pansy and decide you don't want it, make sure you
sell it for a good price!! It's highly desirable and some nurseries
are selling it for £45.00 and more. Would that be an impulse buy for
you? ;-)

Nope, not quite! Forest Pansy is pretty widely available, and
for awhile was the only Cercis I saw at the local nurseries/centres.
Mine actually came from a DYI where the plants are usually
in awful condition, but I always have a look while buying light bulbs.
(Old tri-phase and 440V power, we go through light bulbs.) This
was huge, easily 2.5 m, I barely stuffed it into the car. It was 24 EU,
so I know that even though Cercis doesn't like to be moved large,
if it dies it won't be too big a hit. Anyway if it is Forest Pansy I'm
sure I'll find a way to live with it. :)

Actually every time I buy something from one of these places
I swear it's the last time, then I see another "great deal,"
and off I go. Oh well.

-E

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On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:42:28 +0100
Janet Baraclough wrote:

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from Emery Davis contains these words:


Mine actually came from a DYI where the plants are usually
in awful condition, but I always have a look while buying light bulbs.
(Old tri-phase and 440V power, we go through light bulbs.) This
was huge, easily 2.5 m, I barely stuffed it into the car. It was 24 EU,
so I know that even though Cercis doesn't like to be moved large,
if it dies it won't be too big a hit.

I'd heard they hated root disturbance too, but mine moved with us
from the last garden, where it had been planted out on the edge of a
copse for around two years. Before the house was marketed I dug FP up
again , losing a fair bit of root to fit the rootball into a big pot. It
lived there for nine months before being replanted about 3 years ago. No
problems at all.


Thanks. There's hope yet. :) The most annoying thing about
mine was the plastic basket it was growing through/around,
that hard plastic already strangling some roots. Took me
a solid half hour to cut the thing away.

-E

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