Hi,

I have just been contacted by an email from someone on Garden Banter.

The thing that is puzzling me is that I didn't think my email address was
visible on NGs.

It is possible that I have a registration on Garden Banter which allows
forwarding of emails, but I can't find any record of it.

So I am puzzled - unless the person in question is an Internet sleuth and
has cross referenced me with some other source of information.

Any ideas?

Cheers

Dave R

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David W.E. Roberts wrote:
Hi,

I have just been contacted by an email from someone on Garden Banter.

The thing that is puzzling me is that I didn't think my email address was
visible on NGs.

It is possible that I have a registration on Garden Banter which allows
forwarding of emails, but I can't find any record of it.

So I am puzzled - unless the person in question is an Internet sleuth and
has cross referenced me with some other source of information.

Your email address is indeed accessible to anyone reading GardenBanter.
If they click on view headers, they're taken to a page which displays
a code they have to type in to prove they're a person and not a
'harvesting machine' but then they get your address.
The msg. they see is:
"Newsgroup message headers contain the email address of the poster. To
combat automated email harvesting (and the subsequent spam), please
enter the image verification text below which demonstrates you are not
a machine: "
and below this is a box with a random letter code in it.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

In article ,
"David W.E. Roberts" writes:
|
| So I am puzzled - unless the person in question is an Internet sleuth and
| has cross referenced me with some other source of information.

Well, Google alone gets a plausible Email (two, actually, but I assume
the South Park one is you).


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article .com,
"Sacha" writes:
|
| Your email address is indeed accessible to anyone reading GardenBanter.
| If they click on view headers, they're taken to a page which displays
| a code they have to type in to prove they're a person and not a
| 'harvesting machine' but then they get your address.
| The msg. they see is:
| "Newsgroup message headers contain the email address of the poster. To
| combat automated email harvesting (and the subsequent spam), please
| enter the image verification text below which demonstrates you are not
| a machine: "
| and below this is a box with a random letter code in it.

Well, a BanterBot wouldn't be that hard to write, then :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article ,
"David W.E. Roberts" writes:
|
| So I am puzzled - unless the person in question is an Internet sleuth
and
| has cross referenced me with some other source of information.

Well, Google alone gets a plausible Email (two, actually, but I assume
the South Park one is you).

Nick,

I was found by Google - I hadn't realised just how much of my online traffic
was visible this way.

I have quickly found three of my 'real' email addresses.

The South Park one is defunct - I dropped quite a few addresses when Talk21
became no longer free.

One other is spammed to death anyway and is one I generally use if I think
there is a risk of the address being exposed.

The third address is one I didn't think I had exposed to the Internet.

Ho hum.

My normal return address is ' which is (or at least was)
specifically maintained by Talk21 as a valid email sink.

I may now have to Google all my email addresses to see which ones are
visible.

Cheers

Dave R

I'm confused - isn't it easy to see anyones e-mail address by simply
clicking on their name after they have sent a post?

--
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)

In message , H Ryder
writes
I'm confused - isn't it easy to see anyones e-mail address by simply
clicking on their name after they have sent a post?

Well, how you see their address, depends on how you view the posts.
Here, my newsreader displays the email addresses used by a poster when I
view message - of course the email address used may not be valid.
--
Chris French

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...

"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
...

In article ,
"David W.E. Roberts" writes:
|
| So I am puzzled - unless the person in question is an Internet sleuth
and
| has cross referenced me with some other source of information.

Well, Google alone gets a plausible Email (two, actually, but I assume
the South Park one is you).

Nick,

I was found by Google - I hadn't realised just how much of my online
traffic
was visible this way.

I have quickly found three of my 'real' email addresses.

The South Park one is defunct - I dropped quite a few addresses when
Talk21
became no longer free.

One other is spammed to death anyway and is one I generally use if I think
there is a risk of the address being exposed.

The third address is one I didn't think I had exposed to the Internet.

Ho hum.

My normal return address is ' which is (or at least was)
specifically maintained by Talk21 as a valid email sink.

I may now have to Google all my email addresses to see which ones are
visible.

This is worrying, my email address does not appear in the heading as to
often in the past it has been used to generate spam emails, if there is a
method of finding email addresses when we all try to stop junk mail, is
there any point in doing that.

--
Alan

Reply to alan (dot) holmes27 (at) virgin (dot) net

"H Ryder" wrote in message
...
I'm confused - isn't it easy to see anyones e-mail address by simply
clicking on their name after they have sent a post?

--
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)

I use a special email address ' for Usenet postings
because bad people harvest email addresses from newsgroup postings and then
sell them to spammers.

In general you should use a known valid email address, but not one belonging
to someone who hasn't given permission. [The point of the known valid email
address being that if you make up one it is quite likely that it already
exists or will do soon].

' is an email sink especially provided for this kind of
use.

HTH

Dave R

David W.E. Roberts wrote:
I use a special email address ' for Usenet postings
because bad people harvest email addresses from newsgroup postings and then
sell them to spammers.

In just over year, I bet I've had about 300 "spam" e-mails, most of
which (IMO) have come from non-Usenet sources. There are only about
a hundred people on usenet, anyway, so it's not a prime resource
for e-mail address "harvesting".

In message , Alan Holmes
writes


This is worrying, my email address

Well *an* email address that appears to be yours does.

does not appear in the heading as to
often in the past it has been used to generate spam emails, if there is a
method of finding email addresses when we all try to stop junk mail, is
there any point in doing that.

Yes, because spam email addresses are collected by computers, hence they
use easy targets such as newsgroups, forums (though mostly they are
hidden nowadays), addresses that people put on web pages etc. It doesn't
mean that all email addresses are easily searched for on the web. I've
just tried, and only a few of our addresses show up on Google, and all
of those are expected.

To be able to Google up an email addresses it must have got onto a web
page first

--
Chris French

"Chris Bacon" wrote after David W.E. Roberts wrote:
I use a special email address ' for Usenet postings
because bad people harvest email addresses from newsgroup postings and
then
sell them to spammers.

In just over year, I bet I've had about 300 "spam" e-mails, most of
which (IMO) have come from non-Usenet sources. There are only about
a hundred people on usenet, anyway, so it's not a prime resource
for e-mail address "harvesting".

Lucky you, when I came back from a week away recently I had 47 real mails
and 584 spam.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
...
David W.E. Roberts wrote:
I use a special email address ' for Usenet postings
because bad people harvest email addresses from newsgroup postings and
then
sell them to spammers.

In just over year, I bet I've had about 300 "spam" e-mails, most of
which (IMO) have come from non-Usenet sources. There are only about
a hundred people on usenet, anyway, so it's not a prime resource
for e-mail address "harvesting".

100 people on Usenet? I should have thought there were more than that using
this newsgroup alone.
Thanks to mail washer I no longer have a problem with Spam and if people
want to waste their time sending it I don't care

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

In article ,
Chris Bacon writes:
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| In just over year, I bet I've had about 300 "spam" e-mails, most of
| which (IMO) have come from non-Usenet sources. There are only about
| a hundred people on usenet, anyway, so it's not a prime resource
| for e-mail address "harvesting".

Er, are you SURE? Try a hundred thousand.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
...
David W.E. Roberts wrote:
I use a special email address ' for Usenet postings
because bad people harvest email addresses from newsgroup postings and
then
sell them to spammers.

In just over year, I bet I've had about 300 "spam" e-mails, most of
which (IMO) have come from non-Usenet sources. There are only about
a hundred people on usenet, anyway, so it's not a prime resource
for e-mail address "harvesting".

I think you are a little short on the number of people using the internet,
if you added about 10 '0's to your estimate it would be a little closer.

Alan