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list of poisonous plants
I know that lots of plants are described as "poisonous" when in fact they
just give you a bit of a bad tummy, whilst others can be fatal. I have small children so am trying to rid the garden of anythign fatal to them but do not mind the "bad tummy" plants. Does anyone know where I can find out just how poisonous plants are? Am especially interested in Daphnes as I'd love to have one but have avoided getting one as they seem "very poisonous" but I am not sure of this. Also please let me know of any common plant which is fatal to children - I know of Lords and Ladies (Acorus calamus ) and nightshade but am not sure of others. (I also know that I can tell them not to eat anything but that does not work in a garden full of raspberries etc - they know that they can eat some stuff ) -- Hayley (gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset) |
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I know that lots of plants are described as "poisonous" when in fact they
just give you a bit of a bad tummy, whilst others can be fatal. I have small children so am trying to rid the garden of anythign fatal Most of the online lists are targetted at the US but are still useful. Google +plants +toxicity gives several useful sites. This one isn't too bad: http://envhort.ucdavis.edu/ce/king/P...nt/Tox-COM.htm Some include toxicity to commercial livestock as well. It probably is worth avoiding some of the really deadly poisonous plants if you have small children. Some colchicums for instance can be lethal in very small doses. Regards, Martin Brown |
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In article , "H Ryder" writes: | | I know that lots of plants are described as "poisonous" when in fact they | just give you a bit of a bad tummy, whilst others can be fatal. I have small | children so am trying to rid the garden of anythign fatal to them but do not | mind the "bad tummy" plants. Does anyone know where I can find out just how | poisonous plants are? Am especially interested in Daphnes as I'd love to | have one but have avoided getting one as they seem "very poisonous" but I am | not sure of this. Also please let me know of any common plant which is fatal | to children - I know of Lords and Ladies (Acorus calamus ) and nightshade | but am not sure of others. (I also know that I can tell them not to eat | anything but that does not work in a garden full of raspberries etc - they | know that they can eat some stuff ) It ain't what you know that causes the trouble; it's what you know that ain't so. The one plant I would advise against is laburnum, because its seeds look just like mung beans and are lethally poisonous. But it is widespread in the UK and responsible for VERY few deaths. Neither of the two plants you mention is lethal. Try educating your children rather than covering them in cotton wool - many of us have done that, and our neighbours had a laburnum that overhung our lawn, too. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"H Ryder" wrote in message ... I know that lots of plants are described as "poisonous" when in fact they just give you a bit of a bad tummy, whilst others can be fatal. I have small children so am trying to rid the garden of anythign fatal to them but do not mind the "bad tummy" plants. Does anyone know where I can find out just how poisonous plants are? Am especially interested in Daphnes as I'd love to have one but have avoided getting one as they seem "very poisonous" but I am not sure of this. Also please let me know of any common plant which is fatal to children - I know of Lords and Ladies (Acorus calamus ) and nightshade but am not sure of others. (I also know that I can tell them not to eat anything but that does not work in a garden full of raspberries etc - they know that they can eat some stuff ) Dieffenbachia (dumb cane), renders the mouth particularly sore, and the victim incapable of speech for some time, hence its common name. It is not recommended to put any in the Mother-in-law's salad, or feed it to screaming kids during the world cup, that would be really naughty. Steve |
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"H Ryder" wrote in message ... I know that lots of plants are described as "poisonous" when in fact they just give you a bit of a bad tummy, whilst others can be fatal. I have small children so am trying to rid the garden of anythign fatal to them but do not mind the "bad tummy" plants. Does anyone know where I can find out just how poisonous plants are? Am especially interested in Daphnes as I'd love to have one but have avoided getting one as they seem "very poisonous" but I am not sure of this. Also please let me know of any common plant which is fatal to children - I know of Lords and Ladies (Acorus calamus ) and nightshade but am not sure of others. (I also know that I can tell them not to eat anything but that does not work in a garden full of raspberries etc - they know that they can eat some stuff ) -- Hayley (gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset) The lethal dose of most things is related to the body weight of the individual, so obviously small kids are most at risk. Education will be the best form of defence but I agree that it is not a good idea to have lethal plants. The one that regularly gets the chop is Laburnum. Please remember that just because a plant does not appear on a list of nasties does not mean that it is totally harmless. |
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In article . com, writes: | | Google +plants +toxicity gives several useful sites. This one isn't too | bad: | | http://envhort.ucdavis.edu/ce/king/P...nt/Tox-COM.htm Sorry, but it's hysterical crap. Apple/plum/etc. seeds, Amaranthus, Black Nightshade, Heather etc. are category 1 - major toxicity - and I know that it is bullshit in all of those cases. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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Try educating your children
I am - that is why I do not mind plants such as holly which give you a bad tummy. What I want to avoid is the risk of them eating something which could kill them. Education is obviously a good thing but, to a three year old, a red current and a berry from lords and ladies can look very similar so given that I #can# try to minimise this risk by removing very toxic plants from my garden I am trying to. Then I can give them free roam of teh garden, tell them to ask before eating, and not worry too much -- Hayley (gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset) |
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Dieffenbachia (dumb cane), renders the mouth particularly sore, and the
victim incapable of speech for some time, hence its common name. sounds like a v useful plant -- Hayley (gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset) |
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H Ryder wrote: I know that lots of plants are described as "poisonous" when in fact they just give you a bit of a bad tummy, whilst others can be fatal. I have small children so am trying to rid the garden of anythign fatal to them but do not mind the "bad tummy" plants. Does anyone know where I can find out just how poisonous plants are? Am especially interested in Daphnes as I'd love to have one but have avoided getting one as they seem "very poisonous" but I am not sure of this. Also please let me know of any common plant which is fatal to children - I know of Lords and Ladies (Acorus calamus ) and nightshade but am not sure of others. (I also know that I can tell them not to eat anything but that does not work in a garden full of raspberries etc - they know that they can eat some stuff ) The RHS site has a pdf file of poisonous plants, though it's probably easier to list what is NOT poisonous. http://www.rhs.org.uk/research/docum..._e_harmful.pdf If it's any consolation to you, I'm pretty certain there have been no reported deaths from plant poisoning in absolutely years and years. I can't say it's something I ever worried about with my children and they seem to have survived. However, I would say that while you might well want to avoid certain plants that are poisonous if ingested, I'd be at least as cautious, if not more so, about plants whose sap or leaves can irritate the skin. We no longer sell Rue here, because a customer who had bought it from us and had it for a year, had read but ignored or forgotten that the label warned it's a considerable skin irritant to some people. She complained bitterly and made a really huge fuss and it's just not worth the risk for us. Another plant to beware of (though you're unlikely to grow it deliberately!) is Giant Hogweed. Euphorbia sap is very irritating to some skins and even daffodils can have the same effect. This is another useful site http://www.gardensearch.co.uk/harmfulplants.htm and its introduction says "The following list of potentially harmful plants has been based on information contained in the Horticultural Retailers Code of Practice. The Code is compiled by the Horticultural Trades Association (HTA) who have worked with the Poisons Unit at Guy's Hospital and The Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew. " -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon |
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In article , "H Ryder" writes: | Try educating your children | | I am - that is why I do not mind plants such as holly which give you a bad | tummy. What I want to avoid is the risk of them eating something which could | kill them. Education is obviously a good thing but, to a three year old, a | red current and a berry from lords and ladies can look very similar so | given that I #can# try to minimise this risk by removing very toxic plants | from my garden I am trying to. Then I can give them free roam of teh garden, | tell them to ask before eating, and not worry too much Heck - I got mine to ask such things well before they were three. I made sure that the first time they did things without checking, the results were unpleasant .... And, as I said, a berry from Lords and Ladies will not kill them. Nor would six berries, if I recall, but they wouldn't eat more than one, as it is a strong irritant. Many plants are lethal, but only to people who munch leaves at random - children aren't THAT stupid. Laburnum and yew are almost the ONLY common plants that are similar to food and lethal in the quantities that a child will normally eat - and yew rarely produces berries on clipped plants. I can't think of another. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Sacha" wrote in message oups.com... H Ryder wrote: I know that lots of plants are described as "poisonous" when in fact they just give you a bit of a bad tummy, whilst others can be fatal. I have small children so am trying to rid the garden of anythign fatal to them but do not mind the "bad tummy" plants. Does anyone know where I can find out just how poisonous plants are? Am especially interested in Daphnes as I'd love to have one but have avoided getting one as they seem "very poisonous" but I am not sure of this. Also please let me know of any common plant which is fatal to children - I know of Lords and Ladies (Acorus calamus ) and nightshade but am not sure of others. (I also know that I can tell them not to eat anything but that does not work in a garden full of raspberries etc - they know that they can eat some stuff ) The RHS site has a pdf file of poisonous plants, though it's probably easier to list what is NOT poisonous. http://www.rhs.org.uk/research/docum..._e_harmful.pdf If it's any consolation to you, I'm pretty certain there have been no reported deaths from plant poisoning in absolutely years and years. I can't say it's something I ever worried about with my children and they seem to have survived. However, I would say that while you might well want to avoid certain plants that are poisonous if ingested, I'd be at least as cautious, if not more so, about plants whose sap or leaves can irritate the skin. We no longer sell Rue here, because a customer who had bought it from us and had it for a year, had read but ignored or forgotten that the label warned it's a considerable skin irritant to some people. She complained bitterly and made a really huge fuss and it's just not worth the risk for us. Another plant to beware of (though you're unlikely to grow it deliberately!) is Giant Hogweed. Euphorbia sap is very irritating to some skins and even daffodils can have the same effect. This is another useful site http://www.gardensearch.co.uk/harmfulplants.htm and its introduction says "The following list of potentially harmful plants has been based on information contained in the Horticultural Retailers Code of Practice. The Code is compiled by the Horticultural Trades Association (HTA) who have worked with the Poisons Unit at Guy's Hospital and The Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew. " -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon Those are useful links --thanks. Are you getting at me by saying no one would deliberately grow Giant Hogweed:-) Heracleum mantegazzianum , a grand name for a plant. I grow the odd one each year. Yes it can irritate the skin but it's not life threatening. I believe it's main claim to fame is that it seeds prolifically and is invasive. I have seen this plant grown as a solitary specimen at several of the stately homes-so perhaps one just outside your tea room would look nice:-) |
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Emmm... this is a subject I often think about, mainly because I have
limited knowledge about poisonous plants and because I know that I have some in my garden which worries me at times, not because of my kids though because they are older now but more because of our 8 month old puppy who likes to chew things! I have quite a bit of Monkshood growing in the garden which is very pretty but is quite deadly, infact very deadly so I am told, particularly the roots which can kill in minutes and look very much like horse radish! I also have a lot of digitalis (fox gloves) and also Euphorbia both of which are poisonous and this is particularly worrying when you know they are poisonous but don't know the extent of the damage they do. So I can understand your concern when you have young children running around the garden, I would want to know exactly what was what too Hayley. The only thing I know enough about is the Monkshood and I would avoid that completely or dig any up if you find it growing in your garden. It's extremely deadly according to what I have read. |
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In article .com, "tom&barbara" writes: | | The only thing I know enough about is the Monkshood and I would avoid | that completely or dig any up if you find it growing in your garden. | It's extremely deadly according to what I have read. And remember to never grow dwarf, French or runner beans, tomatoes, potatoes, rhubarb or horseradish. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message ... : : In article .com, : "tom&barbara" writes: : | : | The only thing I know enough about is the Monkshood and I would avoid : | that completely or dig any up if you find it growing in your garden. : | It's extremely deadly according to what I have read. : : And remember to never grow dwarf, French or runner beans, tomatoes, : potatoes, rhubarb or horseradish. : That one tickled me, well done .. are horse radish leaves poisonous? ... I never knew that so I'd better stop chewing them lol |
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In article , "Robert" writes: | | : And remember to never grow dwarf, French or runner beans, tomatoes, | : potatoes, rhubarb or horseradish. | : | That one tickled me, well done .. are horse radish leaves poisonous? ... I | never knew that so I'd better stop chewing them lol Apparently quite seriously so, but the information came from the same sort of source that classifies apple pips as a major danger, so believe it as you will. The others I am surer about. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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